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New X-Men #123

 
  

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The Natural Way
12:53 / 01.03.02
Agreed. Ethan's not great yet, but he might be. But the end won't be as straightforward as that.

And the chatting in this ish was needed. Jean et al had to get around to talking about those things, to those people.

My little bro will... Well, I don't want to talk about how much he'll like this ish, cause it'll be messy and disgusting.
 
 
Sandfarmer
14:35 / 01.03.02
quote:Usually in comics when the villains suddenly appear at the end, it's no big deal, but Grant managed to make the Imperial Guard a spectacle by contrast.

I have to disagree here. We all knew they would show up. At the end of issue 123 we are right back at the end of issue 122, only moved forward a few panels. Sure, I enjoy Grants exposition. No body does it better. I also love dialog driven comics so I enjoyed the issue. I mean, when compared to the rest of the comics out there, New X-Men 123 will probably be one of the better comics of the month. But after being blown away by last few issues, this one let me down.

If Quitely had drawn it, I'd probably be drooling on myself in fanboy glee. I'm a fickel fucker.
 
 
Ganesh
11:44 / 02.03.02
quote:Originally posted by invix:
And I'm pretty sure morrison got the whole midwich/stepford cuckoo thing from John Wyndham, who wrote a book called 'the midwich cuckoos'


They're a reference to at least three separate sources:

John Wyndham's 'The Midwich Cuckoos', as you say. In the film version ('Village of the Damned'), the weird psychic children are all blonde-haired - and more violent than in the book.

'The Stepford Wives', a peculiar film from the mid-70s about an American town where all the women have been replaced with spookily zombie-like robots which are engineered to cook, clean, fuck (gratefully) and, this being the 1970s, wear big hats and flowery dresses.

'The Pride of Miss Jean Brodie' by Muriel Spark, again inspiring one of Dame Maggie Smith's greatest films. She plays Miss Brodie, a charismatic Edinburgh schoolteacher who exerts svengali-like powers over her 'gels' (who she refers to as the 'creme de la creme'), subtly moulding them in her own image and living vicariously through them - sometimes to their detriment. In one scene, an artist paints a series of portraits of Miss Brodie's 'set', and to him they're all even starting to look like her...
 
 
Adam Warlock
06:07 / 03.03.02
Could it be possible that the statement Jean makes during the press conference about humans and mutants as "fingers on the same hand" could be a not-so-subtle reference to the famous Booker T. Washington Atlanta Compromise speech? If so, then the whole thing might be seen as setting Jean up as a conservative human apologist who will inenvitably be shown up by the more radically confrontational faction of mutants. Is it really Morrison's style to further the trend of using mutant politics as an analogy for the civil rights movement, or was it just a throw away line?
 
 
Our Lady of The Two Towers
13:28 / 03.03.02
The whole 'we have mutant CEOs' thing, were mutants that integrated into society before Morrison took over? Back in the day I read it, about 8 or so years ago, mutants were still apart from society. While I applaud Grant for wanting to move things on (and god knows it needed to be) if he's suddenly moved the goalposts to where everyone really does know a mutant it's a bit of a shame he's not writing that happening, but as though it happened. After all, a few months ago wasn't the world aware it could catch this Legacy Virus from mutants?
 
 
Sandfarmer
15:14 / 05.03.02
I prefer not to think about the Legacy virus years.

Warren "Angel" Worthington is a corporate type. Pretty much always has been. (Or at least the family has while he was busy playing super hero.) I'm trying to think of a few other examples but considering that most super hero comics are about super heros and not corporations, it may be hard. The origial X-Factor was funded by a corporation, or at least a rich guy.

I don't think its too far fetched for Morrison to say mutants are already integrated into society. For every X-man, Morlock, or Brotherhood member, seems like there would have to be several mutants out there who just kept to them selves and lived normal lives.
 
 
Imaginary Mongoose Solutions
20:27 / 05.03.02
quote:Originally posted by Loz' Sweet Exile:
The whole 'we have mutant CEOs' thing, were mutants that integrated into society before Morrison took over?


Emma Frost is the multi-millionare CEO of Frost Enterprises. At least on paper. Warren Worthington is the CEO of Worthing Enterprises... both of them are outed Mutants. And I guess with the between-the-panels creation of X-Corp, (Not the X-Corps) then Xavier is a Mutant CEO as well.
 
 
A
10:28 / 07.03.02
just read it. i liked it.

i think that some of the new Imperial Guardsmen are based on the Legion of Super Hero characters Bouncing Boy and Proty II (of the Legion of Super-Pets), which is pretty funny.
 
  

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