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Late Night Comic Talk

 
 
moriarty
16:38 / 15.02.02
I'm just as guilty of it as anyone else. A serious thread on serious comics is chugging along and all of a sudden half the group starts talking about Power Man and Iron Fist. Or Atari Force. Or Alpha Flight. Or...

So let this be the comics forum equivalent to the Conversation. Just like the days when you and your friends would stay up all night discussing all those quarter bin pulls, the mysteries of Pre-Crisis continuity, or any other damn thing no one in their right mind would want to talk about. Hey, maybe we can convince Tom to post something about his love for Green Lantern. Or Booster Gold.

Me first. I was skimming over the DC message boards looking at the DC Archive collection forum because I'm treating myself to one for my birthday. And I found these treats.

CHALLENGERS OF THE UNKNOWN--April-May, No. 49--On sale Feb. 1--Meet the new Challenger Corps! Who are they? What do they do? The answers come with trip-hammer force when the CHALLENGERS use their super-powers to battle "The Tyrant Who Owned the World."

THE ATOM--April-May, No. 24--On sale Feb. 1--in the first issue of THE ATOM, the World's Smallest Super-Hero smashed the schemes of the PLANT-MASTER! Now he strikes again, with a plan to turn his very defeat into victory with "The Atom-Destruction of Earth!"

BOB HOPE--April-May, No. 98--On sale Feb.1--Rev up your engines for a daffy drag, a merry meet, and a riot of a rally! But be careful, or you'll strip your gears laughing at "The Cool Hot Rodder," co-starring Bob and that swingin' teen, Super-Hip.

STAR SPANGLED WAR STORIES--April-May, No. 126--On sale Feb. 15--Many G.I.'s thought their topkicks LOOKED like gorillas! But this Sergeant really WAS a GORILLA--on a mission no human soldier could carry out!

HOUSE OF MYSTERY--April, No. 158--On sale Feb. 17--It's the battle of the century! Robby Reed's fabulous DIAL H FOR HERO gimmick enables him to become a new super-hero! But this time, a dangerous criminal accidentally manages to "Dial V for Villain!"

METAL MEN--April-May, No. 19--On sale Feb. 17--the unique robots who act more human than humans found themselves attending a birthday party! The only trouble was--they were INSIDE the birthday cake!

These are all blurbs from Direct Currents during the Late 60's. I'm a sucker for shit like this.

And, on a related note, has anyone ever noticed that when people who aren't into comics are given one (especially older comics) one of the things they enjoy most about them are the ads?!? More Hostess Fruit Pie ads then Man Was Meant To Know. Including a parody by the Powerpuffs.

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kid coagulant
16:43 / 15.02.02
Nobody ever talks about atari force around here...
 
 
moriarty
16:47 / 15.02.02
Hey, I only mentioned it because you brought it up.

After reading that I went through one of my old boxes of comics and pulled every issue of Atari Force I own. Crazy shit. That title was like Transformers and GI Joe in that it was different, and in some ways superior, to its source material. I'm a little hazy on the details, but I'll probably read them tonight and we can rock out Atari style.

Who wants to bet that I'll be making at least a third of the posts here?
 
 
Captain Zoom
16:54 / 15.02.02
Anyone want to talk about New Universe?

(Zoom ducks out when he realizes that's too geeky for even this lot.)

Zoom.
 
 
bio k9
16:57 / 15.02.02
Nah, I can geek out too.

Growing up, I only owned one DC comic. I used to read them at the library. The Trial of the Flash, Green lantern Corps, and Firestorm, mainly.

Bored at work yesterday, I was thinking about Kilowog (thanks for the pic, btw) and how cool it was to have a whole galaxy full of Green Lanterns. DC really fucked that up didn't they? Is there still a GL corps?

I was also thinking how cool it would be to kill the new GL and give the ring to a 7yr old kid. Hed fly around using the ring to create Pokemon monsters and Gundam robots to combat evil. Then I realized a 7yr old probably wouldn't fight crime (or whatever a GL is supposed to do). Still it would be cool to have a kids imagination in control of the ring.
 
 
kid coagulant
16:59 / 15.02.02
I have no idea where my atari forces went to. As far as GI Joe, I loved how hasbro toys kept fucking them over and adding characters like Zartan, or Xandar, or whatever, and that guy w/ the big plastic cobra head over his real head. And Major Blood. And Destro. He was the fucking bomb.
 
 
bio k9
17:10 / 15.02.02
I still remember getting my first GI Joe at Jafco all those years ago. It was Zap, the mortar specialist. This was pre-swivel action. I don't think I got anyone else that day so I probably used him with my SW figures for a while.

Embarassing fact: I used to run out of ideas for my SW figures (I played with them ALLL the time), so I once had a birthday party for Chewbacca.
 
 
kid coagulant
17:14 / 15.02.02
I had Princess Leia and Cobra Commander get married once. It didn't work out. She wanted to work and he wanted her to stay at home.
 
 
Steve Block
18:55 / 15.02.02
I read Atari Force although I have absolutely no knowledge of the viseo game, never saw it never played it. Vague recollections of the comic, wasn't the Han Solo type character not quite so nice after all?
 
 
kid coagulant
18:57 / 15.02.02
Blackjack? He was just misunderstood.
 
 
Haus Of Pain
08:01 / 16.02.02
Ah, a comics geek-out.

At the minute I'm being submersed in a sea of fanboy fantasies come true. Has anyone seen the preview art for Transformers or Battle of the Planets? Hey, they're probably going to be super-crap bollocks, but I can't help dreaming can I?
 
 
matsya
08:01 / 16.02.02
go fucking apeshit

m.
 
 
Mystery Gypt
23:54 / 16.02.02
there's an atari force cover gallery here... http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Lakes/8175/force.html

i don't remember reading this stuff back in the day... i take it they were action sci fi space opera, but how did they tie it in to the Atari company? what's the premise here and what's the video game connection?
 
 
Tuna Ghost: Pratt knot hero
01:14 / 17.02.02
A friend of mine got offered a job working at the Marvel archives, which he turned down to become a priest. The questions he had to answer were pretty tough. I've been reading comics since I could read, but some of these threw me for a loop. For instance:

How many Ultron incarnations have there been? You're not allowed to look it up on-line. You've got your collection and whatever knowledge in your head to draw from.

And hey, whatever happened to the Skrull Kill Krew?
 
 
A
20:47 / 17.02.02
According to The Official Handbook of the Marvel Universe, Ultron has had the incarnations 1-12, plus Ultron Mark Twelve, and Crimson Cowl, so that would make 14 (at least as of December 1986, when it was published).

I have absolutely no idea what any of that means though.

I believe that Skrull Kill Krew is being made into a movie called The Kult.
 
 
Elijah, Freelance Rabbi
09:02 / 18.02.02
the brief mention of the SKK was the best part about Earth X

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sleazenation
09:06 / 18.02.02
lets not forget all those fake ultrons through the years...
 
 
moriarty
09:06 / 18.02.02
Or Daredevil #275 and #276, where Ultron 13 got all fucked up and creted 287 more Ultron heads and put them on stakes so he could perform some sort of ritual in the woods.

So far as the Skrull Kill Krew goes, Mark Millar had this to say. "Grant's using them in Marvel Boy 2, I think, which is out early next year."

I hope so. I miss Nobbler.
 
 
Trijhaos
09:06 / 18.02.02
Were those ads for X-ray specs, big bags of magic tricks, and fake dog crap real? I mean if I had sent a money order to the company would I have actually gotten stuff back no matter how crappy it actually was or would I have just been sending my money to some guy who sat in his parent's basement and laughed at the poor gullible children who sent him money expecting to get really neat crap?
 
 
Matthew Fluxington
09:06 / 18.02.02
Re: the Ultron/Marvel Archives quiz:

Wow, that is tough - cos I mean, what if you really love Marvel, you really are a total comics nut, but you just hate The Avengers? Yr screwed!

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Jack Fear
09:06 / 18.02.02
quote:Originally posted by Bio K9:
Embarassing fact: I used to run out of ideas for my SW figures (I played with them ALLL the time), so I once had a birthday party for Chewbacca.
Long as they weren't celebrating Life Day... now THAT's an utter geek-out...
 
 
moriarty
09:06 / 18.02.02
Flux? Who are you responding to, man?

Captain Zoom, if no one else wants to talk New Universe, i will. I only ever collected a few titles, and I still have some of my favourite issues. For some reason I really liked Spitfire and the Troubleshooters. The idea that it was just a normal industrial robot suited up was appealing. And that the Troubleshooters were just a bunch of kids who could have stepped right out of Sneakers. It tapped into that feeling that one day you might get in over your head and have to rely on your ability to pull pranks on people to survive, mixed in with a giant robot. Of course, it sucked, but that shouldn't matter.

I collected Psi-Force fairly constantly, and that was about it. Again, they were definitely tapping into some pre-teen fantasies. I was right into psychic powers back then.

One thing the New Universe doesn't get credit for is that every issue was self-contained, and that each series actually happened in real time, month by month.

I just reread my Atari Forces. They're pretty scattershot, so it wasn't very coherhent. From what I remember, Atari Force first started out as insert comics in the games themselves and as adverts in various DC Comics. The Atari Force series took place over twenty years later, with the children of the original comics. The video connection stopped at the names of a few characters, like Tempest.

Basically, Champion (I can't remember his first name, and I can't bother looking, but he looks like Paul Newman), father of Tempest (a kid with a mullet, a headband, and teleportation powers), senses an evil presence from his past coming to destroy Earth. He assembles a crew, they steal a ship, and along the way they pick up all sorts of weird creatures, like Babe (a huge monster with the intellect of a child), Pakrat (a cowardly klepto rodent) and Taz and his Tazlings (a warrior who spoke in a language they couldn't understand, and her children, the future equivalent of gremlins). Oh, hell, I'll round I off. Dart and Blackjack, two rogues, one of whom betrays them, and Morphea, an empath.

Which makes it all sound incredibly bad. Which, in a way, it was. What it had going for it was a huge cast of well-defined characters (much larger then I detailed above), many subplots, bitter in-fighting and a very dark, non-heroic tome. Worth the quarter.

It must be late. I've just spent six lengthy paragraphs defending the New Universe and Atari Force.

I'll respond to the other posts later. All of them.
 
 
mondo a-go-go
09:06 / 18.02.02
i haven't read this, i just wanted to say:

good god, y'all! this place is Bizzzeeee.

but i wanna see more gals hanging out here.
 
  
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