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Alan Moore Vs Marvel!

 
 
Haus Of Pain
17:03 / 26.01.02
Check this out right now!

Oh dear.
 
 
LMG
18:01 / 26.01.02


[ 26-01-2002: Message edited by: LMG ]
 
 
LMG
18:02 / 26.01.02
How fucking clueless are Newsarama asking Alan Moore about Watchmen 2?
 
 
DaveBCooper
22:12 / 26.01.02
(Shakes head and smiles ruefully at Marvel shooting themselves in the foot)

DBC
 
 
The Damned Yankee
06:10 / 27.01.02
"Meet the new boss, same as the old boss."

I guess Marvel isn't as changed as Quesada and Jemas would like us to think.
 
 
Captain Zoom
16:46 / 27.01.02
I'm willing to give Queseda the benefit of the doubt. He seemed genuinely shocked about it. Though, regardless of what Joe Q. says, I think Moore is done with Marvel. Wanting his name taken from the book? That's harsh, man.

It's a shame. Imagine the Morrison/Moore commanded universe-wide crossover.

(Fanboy drool.....)

Zoom.
 
 
LMG
17:49 / 27.01.02
quote:Originally posted by Captain Zoom:
It's a shame. Imagine the Morrison/Moore commanded universe-wide crossover.


That seems a bit unlikely... I think they had a bit of a disagreement over some article Morrison wrote back in the Eighties.

Has Moore ever discussed Morrison?

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Captain Zoom
17:53 / 27.01.02
Taking the piss dude.

But I get the odd suspicion that Moore just doesn't care. He stays (or wants to) stay as far away as possible from the "politics of comics" as far as I can tell.

Zoom.
 
 
Big Talk
01:05 / 29.01.02
Half of Morrison's stuff is kinda Moore-crossover as it is- I think of the beginning of Animal Man, # 8 ("Mask of the red death") in particular- all commentary on Watchmen.
 
 
Ho Garden
07:21 / 29.01.02
Big Talk you are right. Morrison can only copy and follow what Moore does. He has no direction without Moore.

So what you say is correct.
 
 
Haus about we all give each other a big lovely huggle?
07:23 / 29.01.02
He loves him, and yet he is afraid of him.

Yes.
 
 
Ho Garden
07:53 / 29.01.02
I'm glad you can see this too Huas. Sometimes I feel as if no one else realises this about Morrison.
 
 
Haus about we all give each other a big lovely huggle?
08:02 / 29.01.02
Do you think Morrison may also be a collector of glass cats?

[ 30-01-2002: Message edited by: The Haus of Hairbraids and Knitting ]
 
 
Ho Garden
08:02 / 29.01.02
I don't know why you are bringing up this idea. I don't think it matters or detracts from his work.
 
 
Haus Of Pain
08:02 / 29.01.02
Have to disagree about Morrison tagging along behind Moore. Morrison is thoroughly deconstructive in his approach where as Moore is rather more structuralist. Admittedly they operate on two sides of the same coin but there are important distinctions to be made. Look at their respective attitudes towards Magick for example: Alan's good old-fashioned (yet self aware) platonism vs Morrisons wild chaos ramblings.
 
 
Haus about we all give each other a big lovely huggle?
08:02 / 29.01.02
Can you operate on a coin?
 
 
Solitaire Rose as Tom Servo
13:47 / 29.01.02
As I thought would happen, Marvel apologized and Moore said that was nice and took back his "Strike my name from it" threats. It was prolly someone in the trade paperback department either messing up or someone doing a dirty because a friend of theirs got laid off.

And while I can see that Morrison's stuff wouldn't have gotten into print without Moore blazing the trail, they are very different writers if you pay attention.

Moore plays more with form and character while Morrisons likes messing with the reality the characters inhabit.
 
 
Ho Garden
13:58 / 29.01.02
That's right Huas - change your posts. It's not right to mention if Morrison is gay or not. As I have said - it does not worsen his work.
 
 
Haus Of Pain
20:56 / 29.01.02
Glad no-one tried to force the Morrison vs Moore thing. I can accept that Morrison works in a historical context (and therefore cannot escape Moore's influence), I can accept that he likes a bit of post-modern reappropriation (and therefore borrows from whatever creator takes his fancy), but I cannot accept the premise that he is unoriginal.

Whatever! Let's get to the meat!

From Newsarama:

Wishing to see the whole matter surrounding the Captain Britain copyright resolved and go away to allow him to focus on writing comics and other work, Alan Moore told Newsarama this morning that he accepted Joe Quesada’s apology yesterday when Marvel’s Editor-in-Chief called him to explain what had happened with the volume, from the copyright to the missing page.
“Joe told me that he was going to be publishing an apology and when the book was reissued, which should be fairly shortly, and then it would have the copyright notice,” Moore said. “I told him that if all that happened, that would be okay with me.

“He did apologize for the fact that this had happened at all, and that someone should have been taking greater care. He told me that there had been some firings at the Marvel trade paperback division – this wasn’t anything that I would ever want anyone to lose a job over, but it did show a degree of contrition. I take Joe at face value. I’m sure he’s a man of his word, so if all of this comes to pass, that would satisfy me. That’s the long and the short of it – it sounds like it was an unfortunate blip for which all parties concerned should be sorry, and have to walk it off.”
 
 
sleazenation
09:13 / 30.01.02
Comics industry rocked by storm in teacup shock!
 
 
The Natural Way
09:13 / 30.01.02
Hindermate, Ho Garden is a pisstake suit.

I'm pleased Marvel sorted that one out.
 
 
Haus about we all give each other a big lovely huggle?
09:13 / 30.01.02
Damn, the secret's out. Somebody's trunk is showing...
 
 
Ho Garden
09:13 / 30.01.02
I am going now.

You will miss me.

Faggots. (includes all of you)
 
 
Just Add Water
22:49 / 30.01.02
I believe they operate on the same side of two coins.


I did not say who.
 
 
Ganesh
22:54 / 30.01.02
quote:Originally posted by The Haus of Hairbraids and Knitting:
Damn, the secret's out. Somebody's trunk is showing...


Not me, this time. Either yawn (co-conspirator in Ho Gardening) or someone else. Funny, though.
 
  
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