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Captain Zoom

20:39 / 11.12.01

So has anyone read any of the silent titles yet. I cut down on my ordering so I'm not getting as may in as I'd hoped. Excellent? Useless? Couldn't be bothered?

Zoom.

Mr Tricks

09:56 / 12.12.01

Flipped through the THOR silent issue... it was pretty good... Didn't buy it though.

Eblis O'Shaughnessy

09:56 / 12.12.01

I got the copy of Exiles, and it was pretty good. It's nice that they've got partial scripts in the back also.

Matthew Fluxington

20:16 / 12.12.01

I looked through the silent issues that came out today...save for the Dillon-drawn Punisher, they were all crap. Actually, the Punisher was crap, on account of it being the Punisher in spite of Dillon...

Still, that was probably the best issue of X-Treme X-Men to date, just by default - not having an awful Claremont script instantly improves that comic.

sleazenation

20:24 / 12.12.01

I've said it before, but i do not believe that sequential images without text makes a comic. anyone wants to put a coherant arguement together as to why i am wrong in my assumption?

NotBlue

20:28 / 12.12.01

At a tangent, John Byrne made a comic from No sequential images, but with dialogue.

Matthew Fluxington

20:43 / 12.12.01

I think that a comic without text is indeed a comic in strict technical terms, and by the same logic and comic with no images is NOT. However, it is my opinion that comics without writing is boring, and only half as interesting as a comic with text. When I read comics, unless the artist is truly spectacular, I tend to scan over the images or look at them from the corner of my eye only to inform the written parts of the panels...they are utilitarian function most of the time.

I'm very confident that the Quitely/Morrison NXM silent issue will be good, and at least they bothered to go with a concept that logically should be portrayed silently and fit in with the regular storyline... I just didn't get that from the silent issues I've seen thus far.

sleazenation

20:49 / 12.12.01

flux- again i don't see a cohearent agrument as to why non text comics are really coincs there... Mccloud claimed that sequential art was enough to make a comic but never really developed his line of thinking so i ask again-- how are sequential images a comic[/LIST]

Matthew Fluxington

09:00 / 13.12.01

going with McCloud's definition of what a comic is, it is a sequence of image telling a story or expressing an idea. By that basic definition, words are unneccessary, and there must at least two images in the sequence.

I agree with this as a basic definition, but I think text is a vital part of making a comic work and be worthwhile. I think there are VERY few artists in this world who are skilled enough as illustrators to tell a compelling story using only images and no words. But it happens.

Yeah, I'm not much into silent films either.

sleazenation

09:07 / 13.12.01

I suppose there is a lot in design language in this something that few comic artists are able to grasp in their page layouts... I suppose its also about design syntax, where design becomes language rather than simply sticking two images next to each other...

Matthew Fluxington

13:01 / 13.12.01

I'm actually quite surprised all of the artists were willing to go through with this 'silent issue' stuff, because it's a clear and obvious way of showing who is talented and craft-concious, and who is just a hack... Already, you can tell: Salvador Larocca is painfully lacking in storytelling chops, but Steve Dillon is a real pro, with style and grace too. It's like judgement day for the artists at Marvel...

tracypanzer

13:05 / 13.12.01

Looks like Doop is going to be the focus of X-Force's silent issue. Excited to see that.

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