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Planetary & Marvel Boy

 
 
The Packard Goose
23:01 / 09.12.01
I just read Planetary, via the two tpb's and back issues 13-15, about three months ago. I really like it.

So today I was going through my comic collection, trying to trim it down and organize it somewhat, when I came across the six issues of Marvel Boy. Couldn't resist another read, as it's been awhile.

Re-reading this story with my newfound awareness of Planetary, I found more similarities and connections than my dendrites could properly handle. I'll resist the temptation to list every single insight I grasped, but I do want to discuss, if anyone else is interested, the Midas/Four parallel.

In Planetary, the one member of The Four who we've never seen is the Ben Grimm-inspired Jacob Greene. Reading Marvel Boy today, I think I figured out why he's been so conspicuously absent. He's been amassing his wealth in the Marvel Universe, dissecting aliens, raising the ultimate exterminatrix daughter (his very own Jakita?), and waiting for a chance to get his hands on a cosmic ray engine so that he can gain all of the powers of The Four for himself.

Unfortunately for Greene, who now goes by the name Midas, his plans were thwarted by a white-haired sourpuss with his own dreams of what the earth should be. Sound familiar?

Anybody else have thoughts on this?
 
 
Traz
00:04 / 10.12.01
Mmm...no. I can't imagine any version of Ben Grimm, no matter how evil, shouting, "Like the heart of God, sauteed and served with fine wine!" Nah, Dowling is Midas. If Jacob Greene is anyone in Marvel Boy, he's probably the Un-Entity.

However, if Jakita is Oubliette, that would mean the Drummer is Plex, Ambrose is Noh-Varr, Doc Brass is Director Dugan and Elijah is...who's left?...Hexus.

On a more serious note, how many Superman analogs have shown up in Planetary? There's the one that Doc Brass killed, the one that Jack Carter blew a hole in, and the alien infant William Leather fried...any more?
 
 
Jack Fear
00:04 / 10.12.01
Surely the guy Jack Carter shotgunned was more Marvelman/Miracleman than Superman.
 
 
Traz
12:27 / 10.12.01
The guy slain by Carter didn't have a magic word or blonde hair. Plus, he had a cape and a stupid mask that was evocative of Clark Kent's hornrims.

Reminds me of a conversation from Mystery Men:

Mister Furious: I'm telling you, Lance is Captain Amazing.
Shoveller: Lance wears glasses, Captain Amazing doesn't.
Mister Furious: He...(sigh)...he takes them off.
Shoveller: If he took them off, he wouldn't be able to see!
 
 
Jack Fear
13:04 / 10.12.01
Yeah, but what happened to him--his past being a lie, discovering that instead of being given his powers by a benevolent scientist-god mentor he was cloned from Hitler's personal sex midgets, et cetera--represents the deconstructionist movement in superhero comics, a movement spearheaded by Alan Moore's Miracleman--a movement which never really touched Superman in any meaningful way.

In other words, it's gotta be Miracleman rather than Superman, because nobody's ever dared do a Miracleman-scale revamp of Superman.

And if he reminds me of anyone visually--the hair and mask in particular--it's Grant Morrison's Zenith.
 
 
Traz
14:01 / 10.12.01
Golly, Jack, you're forgetting all about the time John Byrne changed the noble Man of Steel into a new, improved, noble Man of Steel!

And what about time Superman was killed by Doomsday? Wasn't that realistic and gritty? Wasn't it depressing? I nearly cried!

Okay, it was Miracleman.

[ 10-12-2001: Message edited by: Traz ]
 
 
sleazenation
14:22 / 10.12.01
but miracleman is still a superman analogy himself in that he's knock off of a knock off of superman.and the High character is another one...
 
 
CameronStewart
14:29 / 10.12.01
Miracleman is a knockoff of Captain Marvel.

(Yeah yeah, Captain Marvel was created to cash in on Superman's success, blah blah...)




Edit to include: Ooops, sorry Sleaze, I didn't see the "knock off of a knock off" bit - I misread it.

[ 10-12-2001: Message edited by: CameronStewart ]
 
  
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