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The Knowledge +1
09:57 / 03.10.01
This just posted on Comicon:

Marvel's Bill Jemas, never a figure to shy away from controversy, jumped head first into the fire this past hour.

Marvel's President of Publishing & New Media and Chief Operating Officer sent out the following statement to Newsarama and at least one other online news source Tuesday afternoon, regarding DC Comics' recent annonced decision to postpone Mark Millar's last Authority story arc 'Brave New World" indefinitely, as well as the Authority Widescreen Special.

"I have been reading online that many loyal comic book fans and retailers are sadly disappointed and depressed by AOL/Time Warner's censorship of and refusal to print the last three issues of Mark Millar's Authority and the widescreen issue by Bryan Hitch," read Jemas' statement.

"Would you please get the word out that if AOL/Time Warner will not print those books that Marvel will be happy to do so and pay DC Comics a 10% licensing fee."

It should be noted that DC has not explained the exact reason Authority #27-28 have been pulled from the schedule and their shipping status changed to "To Be Announced", and that DC has not announced the cancellation any of the issues, including the Widescreen Special, which has been postponed due to issues surrounding the events of September 11th, according to the publisher and Hitch.

DC was not immediately available for comment. Look for updates on this story as it develops...
 
 
Ronald Thomas Clontle
09:57 / 03.10.01
See, that's just ridiculous.

So few people read comics, and then when you consider that Authority isn't even a well-known comic outside of geekdom, and THEN consider that it's a comic that's built its reputation on mass destruction being averted/saved by omnipotent quasiliberal fascist superheros, it seems like there is no risk whatsoever in releasing the Authority comics... they should just put a nice little disclaimer/text piece in it, and everything would be fine, I'm sure.
 
 
moriarty
09:57 / 03.10.01
I can actually understand AOL/Time Warner/DC's position. They have come under pretty heavy media attention for the Adventures of Superman twin towers thing. Half the people I know have seen it on one news program or another and commented on it to me. Alot of people may not read comics but they sure do watch CNN. Apparently DC has offered to reinburse anyone who owns an issue of said comic. I doubt they would want a repeat of that so soon.
 
 
sleazenation
09:57 / 03.10.01
how about if we all send a little disclaimer to DC in which we promise not to be offended by the comic signed in triplicate by our mothers they will then and only then send us a copy...
 
 
Regrettable Juvenilia
09:57 / 03.10.01
Oh, come on moriarty. You know what the worst thing that could happen if the mainstream press got wind of a 'controversial' Authority story is? Sales of the book would go *up* a little.

But no, far be it that anyone outside the fatbeard ghetto should ever hear about this little medium we know and love...

You know, sometimes I really do like Bill Jemas an awful lot.
 
 
Our Lady of The Two Towers
10:50 / 03.10.01
It's weird, DC seem to be determined to get themselves into the crap comics corner that Marvel managed to take as their own for most of the 1990s and is probably now only just breaking free of. The Marvel Douche affair... creators flocking to Marvel to follow Quesada and now this. The only difference is that Marvel was broke while DC has AOL/Time Warner to pay it out.
 
 
moriarty
11:57 / 03.10.01
quote:Originally posted by Flyboy:
Oh, come on moriarty. You know what the worst thing that could happen if the mainstream press got wind of a 'controversial' Authority story is? Sales of the book would go *up* a little.


And one of the major, if not the major, media corporations on the planet would garner even more attention by exploiting the tragedy.

I'm not saying that it's right, just that the reason DC probably got the word from on high, people who don't care about comics so long as it feeds them ideas for cartoons and stays out of the news as tasteless entertainment. It probably wouldn't happen at Marvel quite so readily because they don't have AOL/Warner breathing down their necks.

And, no, sales wouldn't go up, because DC would just have to recall all copies.
 
 
Ray Fawkes
13:23 / 03.10.01
Flyboy, I wouldn't underestimate the power of an outraged audience at this point. Cynicism aside, it was a media backlash that almost destroyed comics fifty years ago in the whole Frederic Wertham debacle. Is it so bad to pull back on titles that might seem offensive for a while - out of respect, if not market savvy?
 
 
rizla mission
13:55 / 03.10.01
Maybe something really, really (ahem) 'tasteless' happens in these Authority issues?
 
 
Tamayyurt
14:46 / 03.10.01
Like what, the midnighter flying and crashing some sort of vehicle into a heavily populated structure? Um, come on guys, he's only done it twice!

This sucks! It's bad enough we had to wait this long!!!
 
 
The Knowledge +1
15:18 / 03.10.01
Fucking cocksuckers
 
 
Jack Fear
15:36 / 03.10.01
Oh, get over it, fanboy. It's just a goddam funnybook.
 
 
Ronald Thomas Clontle
20:17 / 03.10.01
Every issue of the Authority comic has some wild catastrophe in it. It's part of the premise of the comic. However, it's also part of the premise of most every other superhero comic. I think that perhaps the problem they might be facing is that the villain in Millar's final arch is the combined political and economic might of the western world. I think THAT is what they are censoring.

and Hitch's comic was based on half of NYC being ripped apart, and a number of the members of the Authority rescuing people and looking for survivors...a little close to home, and totally understandable.
 
 
Sandfarmer
22:53 / 03.10.01
I re-read Ellis' entire run of Stormwatch and the first 8 issues of the Authority over the weekend so I'm kind of in an Authority mood.

I'd like to take a moment to say, fuck you DC. Fuck you very much.

PUBLISH THE SHIT!

It doesn't matter what's in the comic. If it does not have Superman, Batman or Spider-Man in it, mainstream media does not care. Oh sure, magazines that DC's parent company Time/Warner publishes occasionally mention some of their comics but national newspapers could give a fuck less what happens in the Authority. I however, do care what happens in the Authority so give me my fucking comics you scared ass weak bitches.

In short...

 
 
The Damned Yankee
15:48 / 04.10.01
quote:Originally posted by Jack Fear:
Oh, get over it, fanboy. It's just a goddam funnybook.


Yeah, but it's MY goddamn funnybook! I go into a semi-controlled palsied frenzy when it's an Authority ship date, coz I just wanna get my hands on that goddamn funnybook and READ IT!
 
 
Jack Fear
16:03 / 04.10.01
It's not "your" funnybook: the multimedia international conglomerate AOL/TimeWarner/DC/Wildstorm owns the fucker lock, stock, and spandex--and they don't love you, not one little bit, any more than a pusher loves the junkies he services.

And you--and Mark Millar, and Art Adams--have no right to complain, because it never belonged to any of you in the first place.

Ain't capitalism grand?

[ 04-10-2001: Message edited by: Jack Fear ]
 
 
Mystery Gypt
19:34 / 04.10.01
on the other hand, i heard that brian hitch simply didnt want to draw the book after 911.

you have to remember that there are creators, not just corporations, responsible for these books, and maybe after the attack some people just don't want to draw any more exploding buildings right away.
 
 
The Damned Yankee
20:35 / 04.10.01
You know what I mean, Jack.

<soap box> It just pisses me off that the paranoia in this country has reach a scale worthy of the Red Scare. Having no visible enemy to attack, we instead turn on each other and single out the most "different" among us as targets to be persecuted. Nobody can say a goddamn thing for fear of some knee-jerk flag waver getting into his/her face. The fuckheads have gotten it into their heads, once again, that the only way to save America is to destroy everything good about her. I hate it here. I hate what they have done to my home, and what they'll continue to do as long as nobody stops them. The USA is going nuts, and it's taking me with it! </soap box>
 
 
Ray Fawkes
20:44 / 04.10.01
Hey, Yankee. Wildstorm doesn't want to print the Authority right now. They have their reasons. Your soapbox rant is a little out of control, if you ask me, for somebody who's just complaining because they can't get the next issue of Spandex violence-porn they were hoping for.
 
 
The Damned Yankee
09:53 / 05.10.01
quote:Originally posted by Ray Fawkes: Hey, Yankee. Wildstorm doesn't want to print the Authority right now. They have their reasons. Your soapbox rant is a little out of control, if you ask me, for somebody who's just complaining because they can't get the next issue of Spandex violence-porn they were hoping for.

And your point is . . .?

Seriously, it's just that there are deeper issues at work here. A late-night tv host lost his job over one comment made on his show. A member of a panel daytime talk show was raked across the coals by viewers because she wasn't wearing an American flag pin. DC Comics was forced to tender refunds to anyone offended by an issue plotted, pencilled, and set for printing months before the attacks because of a sheer coincidence. In Congress, members representing corporate interests are trying to push through cuts in the capital gains tax and the Star Wars program, and nobody dares say anything because they're being presented (nonsensically) as "anti-terrorism" measures, and nobody wants to be considered "soft" on terrorists.
And for me, this thing with the Authority, the book that got me back into collecting monthlies instead of just buying the trade paperbacks, is the last straw. I've had it. I'm fed up. I am sickened by my countrymen and the war drums that they're beating. Everyone's just falling all over themselves trying to prove how they're so much more patriotic than the next guy, meanwhile they revile and spit upon the rights and priveliges that the founding fathers envisioned for all when they first created this country. It makes me sick to my stomach to watch these hypocrites in action.
And that's why this has me so worked up.
 
 
The Knowledge +1
09:53 / 05.10.01
Yeah, any excuse for Bush to push a right-wing agenda through.

I wonder if DC will pull the Authority Trade Paperbacks too.
 
 
Ray Fawkes
12:51 / 05.10.01
Yankee, I have never seen anyone refer to the kind of backlash you're talking about as "anti-terrorism" - it seems to me to be a matter of good taste.
 
 
Our Lady of The Two Towers
12:56 / 05.10.01
Anyone else read about Marvel planning to put a banner on ALL their books for next year to commemorate the victims? Read about it at All the Rage and Ellis' hard but fair reaction to it.
 
 
The Damned Yankee
13:18 / 05.10.01
The only thing I claimed as being "anti-terrorism" was the new bullshit Congressional initiatives that would do nothing but line the pockets of opportunists.

Call me crazy, but I'm none too keen on having civil liberties trampled upon regardless of motive. I'm just waiting for an announcement on the news saying that showing insufficient patriotic zeal has become a prosecuteable offense. And the flag-wavers would get right behind it. Police states have formed with less provocation than this.
 
 
Ronald Thomas Clontle
16:45 / 05.10.01
Bill Maher's show has not been cancelled. In fact, it was just renewed by ABC for another two years.

It was just been placed in jeopardy of being cancelled due to horribly Un-American sponsers pulling out because they are under the delusion that they are being Pro-American and Bill is being Un-American.

Nevertheless, his ratings have gone up considerably, so it is inevitable that the sponsers situation will clear up in no time.

[ 05-10-2001: Message edited by: Flux = Rad ]
 
 
Regrettable Juvenilia
08:25 / 10.10.01
Updates here and here.

Key bits:

quoteC Comics has addressed the circumstances surrounding the delayed issues of The Authority (#'s 27-29, parts 2-4 of Mark Millar's final story arc), and while the publisher has announced those issues will be published after a six week delay, the planned relaunch of the series as part of Wildstorm's new 'Mature Readers', Eye of the Storm line, has been "put on hold."

"In the wake of the tragic events of September 11th, DC Comics announces several changes being made in regard to future plans for The Authority," reads a press release the publisher issued Tuesday.

"Issues #27, 28, and 29 of The Authority, which have been announced as being delayed, are now rescheduled, with each issue expected to reach comic-book stores six weeks later than originally announced. This follows some editorial adjustments that had already been in discussion in recent weeks and which were crystallized by the events of September 11th. The issues are now scheduled to arrive as follows:"

o The Authority #27: In stores December 5
o The Authority #28: In stores January 2
o The Authority #29: In stores February 6

"In addition, the intended relaunch of The Authority has been put on hold, as the creative team of writer Brian Azzarello and artist Steve Dillon are no longer involved with the project," continues the announcement.

"After the very real events of 9/11 and what unfortunately is yet to come, there was no way the story I had planned for 'The Authority' could be told - period," said Azzarello in the release. "This has more to do with philosophical and religious belief systems that would have been touched upon rather than the widescreen destruction and intimately graphic violence that make 'The Authority' such a unique book. Instead of watering down and drastically changing what I had planned, I decided to withdraw from the book. End of story, but not my relationship with Wildstorm."

When the relaunch and the new line was announced this past summer at the San Diego Comicon, Wildstorm EIC Scott Dunbier said this of the Azzarello's plans, "The new series kicks off with a familiar level of violence and butt-kicking - followed by an unexpected bout of conscience in which the team members must examine their personal beliefs."

...

DC also confirmed The Authority: Widescreen one-shot - originally scheduled for November - has been removed from DC's publishing schedule "due to concerns over the story 'The Man with the Quantum Brain', written and illustrated by Bryan Hitch."

Of the Special, while Hitch originally reported to Newsarama that he suggested that DC postpone the issue (with which DC agreed), he later said at The Art of Comics that to make the issue publishable, timewise he couldn't work it into his schedule.


"I certainly understand postponing it for a while, it was my suggestion to do so, but it seems they are only willing to publish (and this would be for second quater next year) if the story was set somewhere property destruction was none existent and noone was in any danger of dying. I was offered the Moon as an alternative to NY. Failing that I was offered the chance to write and draw a completely new story for the Widescreen book, but due to my exclusivity with Marvel and the rather heavy commitments on The Ultimates I don't see that happening anytime soon."

...

"Despite all the turmoil we're going through to find the right path for The Authority, I'm confident that there will be new Authority projects in the future," said Jim Lee.

DC did not address the status of the previously announced two-issue story arc by Garth Ennis and an unnamed artist that was planned to bridge the end of Millar's run with the spring Azzarello/Dillon relaunch, or announced whether the title would return as an ongoing series with a new creative team.


Warren Ellis has some good points to make about this:

quote:"What's 'appropriate' is a choice for publishers to make, not creators - if anyone's going to make it," answered Ellis. "The story you want to tell should be the only consideration. But then, I had a story 'shitcanned' because it was about school shootings. Bryan Hitch is a much nicer person than I am, and volunteered to DC/Wildstorm the idea that his Authority story should be postponed - but it was always going to be killed anyway. And has been.

"DC comports itself as any large entertainment company would, and has, in the midst of events like 09-11. Film companies are pulling movies they deem inappropriate in the circumstances, TV networks have pre-empted material for the same reason. Like them, DC remains very sensitive to the topic of appropriate material, and is perhaps too careful about the art it introduces into the culture. This is no insult: it's just the way it is, and it's childish to behave otherwise. Paul [Levitz] and Jenette [Kahn] do what they believe is best for the company, and they certainly seem to believe it would be incorrect to introduce callous material like The Authority into an intensely charged and sensitive cultural situation.

"The Authority will not appear in any form we recognize for some time to come. Because for it to work, it must be callous. It must be horrible, and violent, and must be gleeful about what it's doing. If it's not cranked up to ridiculous volume, viciously insulting to the genre that spawned it and blatantly absurd in its scale and its disregard for human life... it's just another superhero team book. You can find those anywhere.

"Unfortunately, the clash between the Authority style and the real-life events and attitudes surrounding it means that, at least for a little while, it'll have to be just another superhero team book. If it's going to be published at all.

"Personally, I think the audience is ready for it. It's escapism, and it's revenge fantasy on the biggest possible scale. But the people who make the decisions clearly believe otherwise. I mean, there's no bad guy. They want to do what they believe is right. It's just that I believe that stuff exploding and people getting kicked is always right."


I actually disagree with that last bit though: personally, The Authority now looks like an idea whose time has passed (it was always meant to be a pop comic, wasn't it? trashy, irresponsible, insane fun). Bring on the pacifist futurist comics.
 
 
Ronald Thomas Clontle
11:23 / 10.10.01
quote:Originally posted by Flyboy:
Bring on the pacifist futurist comics.


Yeah, Grant's ideas for New X-Men must be reaffirming his faith in those sunspots of his, I'm sure...
 
 
sleazenation
12:07 / 10.10.01
I really don't believe that the time for the authority's aesthetic is passed if anything its adolecent power fantasy baroque posturing and high violence has met its apothesis and become our daily reality. if anything the reason that it will not be published in its current form is because it is no longer quite so escapist fiction.

in related news. While the close of miller's run will be published it seems that Azerello will no longer be working on Vol.2

quote: "In addition, the intended relaunch of The Authority has been put on hold, as the creative team of writer Brian Azzarello and artist Steve Dillon are no longer involved with the project," continues the announcement.
"After the very real events of 9/11 and what unfortunately is yet to come, there was no way the story I had planned for 'The Authority' could be told - period," said Azzarello in the release. "This has more to do with philosophical and religious belief systems that would have been touched upon rather than the widescreen destruction and intimately graphic violence that make 'The Authority' such a unique book. Instead of watering down and drastically changing what I had planned, I decided to withdraw from the book. End of story, but not my relationship with Wildstorm."
When the relaunch and the new line was announced this past summer at the San Diego Comicon, Wildstorm EIC Scott Dunbier said this of the Azzarello's plans, "The new series kicks off with a familiar level of violence and butt-kicking - followed by an unexpected bout of conscience in which the team members must examine their personal beliefs."
 
 
sleazenation
08:01 / 11.10.01
oh and since its now been soooooo long since the last issue of millar's run can someone go over what his run has entailed so far?
 
 
Ellis
08:06 / 11.10.01
quote:Originally posted by sleazenation:
oh and since its now been soooooo long since the last issue of millar's run can someone go over what his run has entailed so far?


The Authority are dead. Killed by a cybernetic hillbilly slug thing.

Before that they killed the old doctor who got his powers when the Earth got all pissed off with everyone and he was the only one who could soothe it.

And before that, in Millars first arc The Authrrity killed every member of the Marvel universe.
 
 
Regrettable Juvenilia
08:52 / 11.10.01
The Authority aren't dead - Apollo got napalmed but is obviously alive cos he's on the next cover, Midnighter was supposedly killed in a huge explosion (people always survive those), the Doctor got shot to pieces but we've seen from the fight with the Evil Doctor that he should be able to recover, Shen just got slimed, Angie was dropped on her head (nasty bleeding, but shouldn't that be nanonites instead of blood?), and the hillbilly cyborg Seth implies he "ate" Jack Hawksmoor. Off panel.

They'll be back.
 
 
Ronald Thomas Clontle
18:54 / 11.10.01
quote:Originally posted by Flyboy:
Midnighter was supposedly killed in a huge explosion (people always survive those),


[sanctimonious prick]Try telling that to the families of the people in the World Trade Center[/sanctimonious prick]
 
 
the Fool
23:27 / 11.10.01
Why is it that my two favourite comic fuck me around so much? I could deal with the fact that I wasn't getting a regular planetary fix, by getting a reasonably sort of almost regular fix of authority.

Now its all gone a bit pete tong...
 
 
reidcourchie
08:32 / 31.10.01
I was looking around the comics forum trying to find out about Planetary and the Authority to find out if they were worth reading when I came across this thread.

Sorry for dredging it up again and I'm sure I must be wrong as nobody mentioned it but isn't both Marvel and DC owned by AOL/Warner? I'm sure the bought Marvel some years back.
 
 
Jack Fear
11:20 / 31.10.01
No. Marvel was owned by ToyBiz, who ran 'em into the ground and then cut 'em loose, but was never owned by Time/Warner. Whole sorry story at Forbes.com.
 
  

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