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09:13 / 08.09.01

After recently (finally) picking up some boxes of comics from my mums i had a trawl through a pile of 2000AD back issues. Issues 300-800 (where i stopped buying). Mainly to re-read Zenith which i agree is some of his best work.

Apart from the great nostalgic glow i was consumed in i was reminded of how great 2000AD could be during that period. Some really great stuff. If they're re-collecting Zenith and various Moore stuff. I say don't forget these funny book babies!!!

Bad Company by Peter Milligan...Classic stuff...Maybe now he's putting them back together soon and is Xing it they'll collect it...

Revere by John Smith and Simon Harrison....Wonderful apocalyptic Mad Max meets Crowley stuff...and art to die for (what happened to him? Get him on the x-men) ...begging at the heels to be collected...

Bix Barton by Milligan...My kind of hero...

They could proberly cash in on a collection of Morrisons Future Shocks...The invisible etchings of Salvidor Dali was wonderful stuff...

Any more?

Ganesh

09:18 / 08.09.01

'Halo Jones': Alan Moore described it as 'futuristic girlies go shopping'.

'Killing Time': John Smith and thingummy who can't draw attractive faces. Interesting, though.

'Devlin Waugh': Smith, again.

Loooaads of Future Shocks...

09:18 / 08.09.01

What were those weird little child creatures they had? Milton and Bradley? They ruled!

Also Morrison's Big Dave. A true classic.

(DISCLAIMER: of course, I'm too young to have witnessed these things first hand, but I've picked up the odd collection/back issue here and there..)

10:27 / 08.09.01

Do you remember Simon Harrison's painting of Nemesis The Warlock?

Higher than the sun :)

17:51 / 08.09.01

I'm sorry The Halo Jones TPB is rubbish. It it wasn't Alan Moore writing it , it would have been forgotten long ago. Considering it was written just after V and Watchen. It's very Lite.

18:24 / 08.09.01

part 3 of HJ was sooo much better than what preceded it.

slaine was always fun

Ganesh

23:18 / 08.09.01

quote:Originally posted by Monica:
I'm sorry The Halo Jones TPB is rubbish. It it wasn't Alan Moore writing it , it would have been forgotten long ago. Considering it was written just after V and Watchen. It's very Lite.

Yeah, sure, it's lite but it's good lite. I don't think Moore's ever pretended it's 'deeper' than it is.

yawn - thing's buddy

10:26 / 09.09.01

monica - you are talking shite.

halo Jones is really very good. and considerably better than v.

go stand in the corner with your nose against the wall, foo.

if you want shite alan moore, look no further than skizz.

20:16 / 09.09.01

Skizz has its moments too.

14:16 / 10.09.01

For me, 'Canon Fodder' (first series) was one of the best series in 2000AD. Written by John Smith, IIRC.
Anyone else remember that ?

DBC

Jamieon

15:05 / 10.09.01

I wouldn't say Halo Jones is better than V, but it is good.

But I would say: Monica, stop presenting your opinions as common sense.

16:31 / 10.09.01

Bad Company was revisisted a while back with a storyline called 'A Good Planet'. Kano's found a peaceful existence as a farmer in a rural community. He has a wife and child. Unlike most revived series, this worked brilliantly. The twist towards the end and the eventual outcome were perfect.

Has anyone been reading 2000AD recently? What are the new Bad Company stories like?

yawn - thing's buddy

18:14 / 10.09.01

v is good. I like it. but is it a bit relentless at times.

For me, Halo Jones combined a wider range of emotions and had a more attractive cast.

Sidenote: Boys deprogramming in Invisibles is Grant's unconscious homage to the reprogramming of Evey.

08:31 / 11.09.01

Oh, and Morisson's 'Really & Truly' was fantastic.

Jamieon

12:17 / 11.09.01

But sooooo of its time.

Rave on!

23:48 / 11.09.01

The ABC Warriors have to be added to the list especially The Kronhicles of Kaos.
The seven sacrifices thing?

11:11 / 12.09.01

HEWLIGAN'S HAIRCUT!!

19:25 / 22.09.01

Course no one mentioned DR & Quinch - Moore's finest moment of many fine moments (definitely including Halo, which is much more than lite).
Yeah i remeber Bradley - only funny one is where he meets the Sisters of Mercy (P Morrison years).
I suspect that we could all list for days the great 2000AD moments (Zenith at the top of the list - no pun intended).
Strange how everyone passes over Judge Dredd and the joys of the Bolland (Cal/Child/Death/Apocalypse years)

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07:36 / 24.09.01

quote:Originally posted by Azrael Z:

Yeah i remeber Bradley - only funny one is where he meets the Sisters of Mercy (P Morrison years).

Yeah, that was fantastic!!

The Damned Yankee

07:36 / 24.09.01

quote:Originally posted by kooky has go-go power:
HEWLIGAN'S HAIRCUT!!

I loved that story!

(cringes, anticipating a stream of rotting vegetables; when none are immediately forthcoming, he continues)

I thought it was knee-slappin', spit-out-my-Cheerios funny!

14:07 / 24.09.01

What about The Mind of Wolfie Smith or The Dead?

Twig the Wonder Kid

14:29 / 24.09.01

Bad Company was my first taste of Peter Milligan, and it was seriously habit-forming. The Dead ran around the same time as I remember but on re-reading I don't think that one stands the test of time so much.

And lest we forget Pat Mills' Nemesis, particularly the Kev O'Neill stuff.

mmm ... I used to get really excited by a weekly dose of black and white newsprint back then.

16:01 / 24.09.01

Metalzoic anyone?

Bad Company's coming back soon: Kano returns to the Krool Heart to kill Danny Franks.

So many memories. How about when the Dead Man turned out to be Dredd? The whole Necropolis run, picking up threads from years back. John Wagner, underated comic hero.

Bisley's whole run on ABC Warriors.

Freaks. Anyone remember that? And Happ Hazard?

What about the more recent stuff? You've got Nicolai Dante & A Love Like Blood. Sinister Dexter's a little one note, but "Uranus Hertz?" still makes me piss myself.

OK, I'm outed, I still buy it every week. Probably kill this thread stone dead now.

Zenith is the best thing Morrison's every done. I think the discipline helped him. And I'll repeat for the hard of hearing and the non-believers: The. Best. Thing. He's. Ever. Done.

yawn - thing's buddy

17:24 / 24.09.01

quote:Originally posted by Solaris:
What about The Mind of Wolfie Smith or The Dead?

respect, brother.

Remeber too, Blackhawk (post Tornado), givin' it the 'Warrior In Search of his Soul' routine.

Serious shit too: Fiends of the Eastern Front.

Scary, scary shit man.

The Damned Yankee

00:13 / 25.09.01

I'm genuinely shocked that no-one's mentioned Rogue Trooper.

<--- See? Shocked!

08:36 / 25.09.01

Indigo Prime
Sooner Or Later
Hap Hazzard

Mmm...

Rogue Trooper had good, and awful stuff through its run.
I really liked Charybdis but it finished weakly.

08:36 / 25.09.01

Blackhawk; class, lost in the black hole's event horizon with only a giant care bear with an axe for company.

Flesh 2?

Mach 1? Mach ZERO!?

Disaster 1990...

Inferno...

08:36 / 25.09.01

Otto Sump.

Pug Ugly and the Bugglies.

Two Ton Tony Tubbs.

Citizen Snork.

Russell Muscle.

Cap'n Skank.

..finest Dredd moments?

deletia

08:36 / 25.09.01

"Requiem for a heavyweight" made me cry...

deletia

08:36 / 25.09.01

Who was the guy who did art chores for Cola Commandos and Mean Arena, two series which went absolutely nowhere, but had some lovely cartoony moments? YOu can't fight C.T. Hall, indeed...

The Mark Millar Sam Slade, where a different cast is introduced and slaughtered every week.

Slaughterbowl and Maniac 5, by Smith(?) and Millar respectively.

yawn - thing's buddy

12:39 / 26.09.01

The first run of the original Harlem Heroes (progs 1-27).

Fuckin amazing - anyone remember the flying scotsmen - hard men who jet packs pumped out crude oil.

Hard In Red McCardle!

This is the cunt that blocked a shot by SLIM with his chest - dived infront of the goal pen, and blocked a steel gas filled hardball with his own muscular chestpack!

Reeespekt.

It ended with the Heroes dumping the Scots out the tourney (shame, but predictable). That said, their fans earned the respect of the Harlem crew and several images from the three part 'game' which featured back in 77 ring with a resonance only a dog from Betelgeuse 'might' hear.

One specific image sticks out:

A gasfilled 'aeroball' erupts into tyhe centre of the playing space, with images of The Flying Scotsmens fans and the Harlems Heroes fans adding commentary:

The perfect fusion of the glam lifestyle lived and fought for in the seventies - shaft style blacksport-tation fused with the legendary tartan army of 77 - the frecked, pockmarked rouge invaders of Wembley, unleashed into the world of future sport.

Flesh 2 was good.

Flesh was even better.

Claw Carver, anyone?

16:06 / 26.09.01

The V.Cs - "Suck it in!"

John Hinkleton's (sp?) apocalyptic reinvention of Nemesis the Warlock, and Pat Mills having Torquemada killing Toth with a huge fucking chainsaw.

Nicolai Dante in today's prog.

There was a Dredd story where he lets a blind woman who is dying touch his face. And another Dredd gem called "The El" where a block elevator is out of order and Dredd has to take the stairs to make his bust.

Anything painted by Siku.

Dan Dare. Only kidding.

Danny Franks.

Killing the fuck out of Johnny Alpha and then never bringing him back. There was a time a while back (during "The Pit" actually) when I was convinced that Dredd was about to get exed. I was sure that the - a la Taggart - the title would continue to run, but as an ensemble piece.

The fact that Dredd is aging real time whilst Peter Parker must be living in a bubble of hyper-compresed time.

Pin-Boing (TM)

Anybody like Ace Trucking Co?

I'll second Killing Time. Ditto Cannon Fodder.

So many good Future Shocks...
So many bad Future Shocks...

This is just a list now, isn't it? I'll get my coat.

Oh, but before I go, how about Rojaws actually being part of the ABC Warriors for a while?

Regrettable Juvenilia

08:22 / 27.09.01

quote:Originally posted by Parliament of Fools:
Killing the fuck out of Johnny Alpha and then never bringing him back. There was a time a while back (during "The Pit" actually) when I was convinced that Dredd was about to get exed. I was sure that the - a la Taggart - the title would continue to run, but as an ensemble piece.

Although he did reappear in the 'Judgment Day' Dredd "epic" (time travel malarkey). Judgment Day as I remember wasn't actually very good (it went on too long, and was basically just about huuuuuge bodycounts), but it did have a last page that I loved at the time and still do:

Dredd and Johnny have just killed the evil zombie-raiser out in the Cursed Earth. One of them (can't remember which way dialogue goes) points out that it's a long walk back to Mega-City One, fraught with danger. The other replies "Yeah, but face it -"

Flip over to full page of the two of them looking *unbelievably hard* -

"- Who the hell's gonna mess with us?"

16:30 / 27.09.01

Heh.

I liked indigo prime as well, the story in one of the annuals where they're shutting down a parrallel earth and a blokes wife is the shutdown key is a fun one. The intro story was nice and kind of future shock as well :-).

Also have a bit of a soft spot for early slain, hey I was young.

btw anyone remember their foray into fighting fantasy type stuff with 'you are ronald regan?'. Madness.

As far as 2000ad at the moment (christ knows why I've started buying it again) Nikoli Dante is the best. I really must pick up the trade of the first run that I've seen around.
The demon story and durham red stuff really should be just taken out and burnt though, ewww. Nice art on the durham red story is its only saving grace.

16:43 / 27.09.01

anyone else remember the "choose-your-own-adventure" comic 2000AD put out back in the 80's, when the books were at the height of fashion (well amongst some people).
This list is the one thing that i always loved about 2000AD: you start reading it for one story and when that finishes you carry on to see how the another excellent strip ends and so on and so on.
Other than the stuff mentioned before the stand out story for me was "song of the surfer".

Oh and Button man (at least the first series)...

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