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How Bad Could the From Hell Movie Be?

 
 
Chuckling Duck
19:11 / 03.08.01
The trailer for Hollywood’s adaptation of Alan Moore’s From Hell series is showing before “The Planet of the Apes”. I was a bit startled to see it--I had no idea a film was in the works--and I had immediate misgivings.

The trailer went pretty fast, so my impression of it may be confused. I hope so, because my impression is that they’re telling a standard catch-the-psycho formula story and slapping Moore’s title on it. First off, Johnny Depp’s character seems to be a psychic police detective, a combination of Lees and Abberline I suppose. No doubt he will be a heroic figure, too, unlike the rather pathetic fraud and “bent copper” that are the sources for his character.

I also got the impression that the story will follow Depp’s character as he tries to catch Jack the Ripper. This seems to me like this would ruin the whole focus of Moore’s tale, which kicks off with an intricate exploration of William Gull’s aberrant mind and then proceeds chronologically through the events leading up to the murders.

The plot might include Moore’s royal conspiracy, and it definitely has a Mason connection to it, but without a window into Gull’s mind, there won’t be much depth to it.

I realize that the sheer size of From Hell precludes a direct adaptation to the screen, but while the From Hell film might be a perfectly good story in its own right, it’s not going to be Moore’s story. I guess they don’t consider Moore’s name much of a selling point—his name wasn’t anywhere that I could see.

Did I interpret the trailer correctly? How bad could the movie be?
 
 
Templar
19:23 / 03.08.01
From what I've heard, it's not really From Hell, they've taken out whole chunks of it, made Aberline a junkie, and kept the identity of "Jack" a secret until the end....

But then I haven't seen it, so that could all be rumermongering.

Then again, those good folks in Hollywood did want to make Constantine (Hellblazer) American and give him a female police officer sidekick. Oh. Dear. God.
 
 
The Strobe
19:37 / 03.08.01
...and at last count the whole tour of London in (iirc) Chapter 3, with Gull explaining all the Masonic stuff, and essentially the heart of the book, was cut down to about three lines.

Which was nice.

I really, really, really have no interest in seeing this. Besides, we all "know the ending". Ian Holm should be a good Gull, even if the script is arsemonkeys.
 
 
CameronStewart
00:41 / 04.08.01
The thing that bothers me the most about the From Hell film is the wanton disregard for historical fact apparent in the trailer. Moore used fiction to speculate what went on between and behind the recorded events, was very careful not to contradict any established fact. The film seems to have thrown this completely out the window, and we have a psychic, drug-addled Abberline who has a torrid affair with Mary Kelly (they know she's next to die! Can they catch the killer in time?!?!) and apparently meets the Ripper face-to-face (I know he talks to Gull in the comic - and in real life - but he's ignorant that Gull is the murderer). The following exchange occurs in the trailer and shows how crassly they've adapted Moore's dialogue:

Gull's Voice: One day men will look back and say I gave birth to the 20th Century...
Abberline: You won't get to see the 20th Century...

Hollywood has a traditon of distorting history, but for some reason this time it's rubbing me the wrong way much harder than usual...

[ 04-08-2001: Message edited by: CameronStewart ]
 
 
CameronStewart
01:27 / 04.08.01
For those who are wise enough to not go see Planet Of The Apes, or for those in the UK and elsewhere, here's the trailer.
 
 
Templar
02:38 / 04.08.01
God, why have you let me live to see this day?
 
 
bio k9
06:21 / 04.08.01
This is proof. There is no God.

I want to cry.
 
 
bio k9
06:24 / 04.08.01
You realise that every time you try to tell someone about From Hell they're going to tell you that they saw the movie. And they'll think that if the movie sucked this bad the comic could only be worse.
 
 
Jamieon
08:06 / 04.08.01
I know, it's really depressing.
 
 
Seth
08:43 / 04.08.01
quote: Hollywood has a traditon of distorting history, but for some reason this time it's rubbing me the wrong way much harder than usual...

I’m feeling that. It’s the cumulative effect of seeing a unique and powerful medium systematically raped in rotten movie adaptations over the last half-century. If they can shaft one of the medium’s greatest works…

I tuned out the instant I heard about the casting. Physically, Depp and Holm are nothing like Abberline and Gull. It sounded dumb form the start. I won’t be going – wouldn’t be able to sit through it.
 
 
sleazenation
11:39 / 04.08.01
Ah, but look on the bright side -- at least Moore and campbell got well paid for their work - helping ance their next projects.

Equally think of all the creators who finance their continued work with the help of the money from hollywood options
 
 
bio k9
16:29 / 04.08.01
You're right...we should be thinking of all the creators that are able to finance their publishing ventures thanks to Hollywood money...creators like Rob Liefield.

Anxiously awaiting Dooms IV...

Oh, sweet baby jesus, why have you let this happen?
 
 
Kali, Queen of Kitteh
03:02 / 05.08.01
But have they kept the original title? I heard it was going to be called Jack, which just makes me think of that horrible Robin Williams movie of the same name previous a few years ago.
 
 
CameronStewart
05:56 / 05.08.01
Yeah, that was just a stupid rumour started by - shock! horror! - Ain't It Cool News.
 
 
Sir William Gull
06:52 / 05.08.01
Fie and bunkum!
 
 
A Bigger Boat
11:09 / 05.08.01
dumb question: is this movie really an adaptation of Moore's comic? I remember somone telling me it was actually based on a book by the same name (soory, can't remember any credentials).

Producers see comics selling T-shirts nad they want ot sell more T-shirts. It's Hollywood's version of survival of the fittest. If you don't want shite film version of your comics then burn all your T-shirts and stop buying comics.

By the way I own the Judge Dredd movie and I love it. It's shit but I love it.
 
 
CameronStewart
14:02 / 05.08.01
>>>dumb question: is this movie really an adaptation of Moore's comic? I remember somone telling me it was actually based on a book by the same name (soory, can't remember any credentials).<<<

No, it's absolutely an adaptation of the comic (just not a very good one, by the looks of it) - "based on the comic book series by Kitchen Sink Press" appears in the credits at the end of the trailer, plus Eddie Campbell has been doing frequent updates about the film on his website.

It's being produced by Don Murphy, who according to the book Killer Instinct written by his producing partner Jane Hamsher, is a big comic book nut and is always working to bring comic properties to the screen.
 
 
gman
14:38 / 05.08.01
From Hell the film will be disappointing, but no more than any other film adapted from a well-loved comic, which, let's be honest, have all been rooobish. Superman, Batman, Spawn, Judge Dredd, Archie and Veronica, Revenge of the Mr. Men... all cack, really...
 
 
Jamieon
15:35 / 05.08.01
as opposed to the brilliant Spawn comic we all know and love........

[ 05-08-2001: Message edited by: runt ]
 
 
Jack The Bodiless
18:29 / 05.08.01
Yah, bollocks. Yeah, 'From Hell' the movie will be bloody appalling. Yeah, 'Spawn' was seven shits in a one shit cup.

'Superman: The Movie', 'The Crow', 'X-Men' - all better than the comics that spawned them. And the Batman movies would have been been a lot better if the director hadn't Burtoned them.

In the wake of Brian Singer's 'X-Men': Ang Lee does 'The Incredible Hulk', and Darren Aronofsky does 'Batman: Year One'. This cannot be a bad thing.
 
 
Templar
20:54 / 05.08.01
And John Woo wants to do a new Teenage Mutant Hero Turtles movie! Wicked.
 
 
Seth
10:57 / 06.08.01
Absolutely! I didn't think anyone else apart from me liked that idea.
 
 
ynh
16:44 / 06.08.01
Actually, after seeing Spawn (I was forced, I swear... miles from home, somebody else paid), I can safely say no movie will ever be as bad.
 
 
Ellis
19:22 / 06.08.01
Ha!

Obviously you haven't seen Steel.
 
 
Kali, Queen of Kitteh
19:40 / 06.08.01
And neither has the rest of humanity, so fair's fair.
 
 
Jamieon
08:28 / 07.08.01
What about 'The Flash'?

"The night has a new hero."

V. Special.
 
 
z3r0
10:41 / 07.08.01
notice the slight competition/fight suggestion in the slogan of this movie...
"Only the legend will SURVIVE"

Frankly, the books is too gruesome to make it faithfully to the screen. They have to keep the 14 years old coming. AND leave a way so that there will be a videogame...
 
  
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