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Invisibles last "sentence"

 
 
Axel Lambert
19:46 / 16.07.01
Anyone of you english-speaking guys understand the ending of The Invisibles? The way I interpret it, when Jack says "Your sentence is up", it can both be understood as "Your prison sentence is over" and "Now it's your turn to say something".

Is this correct?
 
 
Ellis
19:50 / 16.07.01
Yea, pretty much.

Thats how I interpretted it anyway.
 
 
Spatula Clarke
20:52 / 16.07.01
Barbelith's a protective womb, shielding us while we evolve into our next form. As a shield, it also keeps us locked out from the truth of our existence. When it implodes, when we reach our next stage and are born into a new reality, we're cast free from its shackles.

Possibly.
 
 
enough
20:53 / 16.07.01
Actually-I took as this.A sentence is ends with a period.The time period was up as was the sentence.
If you place"I"(ego) into sentence you have sentience....his-story?
 
 
Jamieon
21:20 / 16.07.01
It's "our sentence is up".
 
 
CameronStewart
12:34 / 17.07.01
From an age-old email I received from Grant shortly after issue 1 came out:

"No-one yet has noticed that Jack is quoting and so the period isn't the end - the book ends on invisible " marks which are outside the frame in 'reality'..."

[ 17-07-2001: Message edited by: CameronStewart ]
 
 
Axel Lambert
12:36 / 17.07.01
Thanks guys. I'm trying to write a little piece for a newspaper here in the hopelessly retarded country of Sweden (when it comes to comics). The largest literature convention here is in Gothenburg in September, and it usually invites two or three comic creators (under the banner Comics 2001). This year, they invited Bud Grace, Don Rosa, and 74-year old Sy Barry (who drew The phantom). All of them have previously visited that very same convention, Bud Grace at least five times (probably more). My idea is write a VERY indignated text, stating that the person they should have invited, had they had any sense, is Grant.

Please keep posting ideas on that last sentence.
 
 
Axel Lambert
19:37 / 17.07.01
Aaah he's quoting. I missed that too.
 
 
Lothar Tuppan
20:12 / 17.07.01
<in the best Mickey Rourke in "Angel Heart" voice>

Who is he quoting!!!!!
 
 
Mr Tricks
20:33 / 17.07.01
Jack Frost--- quotes Rumi....

If i'm not mistaken. . .

 
 
King Mob
02:59 / 18.07.01
He may not be quoting anything, but as the comic is deconstructing the meaning of what being a comic book means it is appropriate that his line begins to be shown as it would in Grant's script or in novel form. you know as in: jack says, "..."
it doesn't end because "nothing ends that isn't something else starting."
it's our story ours. we have to make it ours and that's why we were instructed to burn each issue after we read 'em.

yeah, and i too saw it as both the gramatical sentence and our "prison" sentence to those fictitional gods who were once needed, but no more. it's evolution of the mind. we don't need gods anymore, we are beyond that now.
 
 
Axel Lambert
10:56 / 18.07.01
But in the grammatical interpretation, does "Our sentence is up" mean 'It's our time to say something' or 'Our language is over'. In other words, does "is up" indicate 'it's time' or 'it's over'???

And he was quoting Elfayed. (I've reread it now.)
 
 
sleazenation
10:58 / 18.07.01
both
 
 
Mr Tricks
17:49 / 18.07.01
or "UP" as in a direction...

our destiny is an upward motion . . .
that sort of thing...

Also Elfayed seemed to quote rumi if a recall correctly... I still think Jack was quoting Elfayed who was quoting Rumi....
 
 
enough
20:31 / 19.07.01
If time is UP...then what is down?
 
 
Axel Lambert
10:19 / 20.07.01
Who's Rumi?
 
 
Jack Fear
12:00 / 20.07.01
You're on the fucking Internet, you've got access to the sum total of human fucking knowledge and you have to fucking ask us "Who's Rumi?"
http://www.google.com/search?q=rumi

Simple as that. Jesus. I mean, are you people paying no fucking attention whatsoever? This thing is NOT just a TV with a typewriter attached: its JOB is to find information.
 
 
grant
12:13 / 20.07.01
Jack, we all love you. Really.
Take a deep few breaths and feel the love.
 
 
Mr Tricks
09:19 / 21.07.01
.... Someone pass him the BONG D u d e!!!
 
 
Perfect Tommy
09:42 / 21.07.01
I haven't gotten the "sum total of human fucking knowledge" line for at least a few months now. =D
 
 
Axel Lambert
10:13 / 21.07.01
(?)

Jack, I'm sure you understand that what I'm trying to do here is finding information. On the internet. By asking you guys.
 
  
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