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What's with the Baker's Dozen of Psychopaths on TV these days?

 
 
jgbell
04:50 / 26.03.14
There sure are a lot of shows currently on TV with psychopaths, suggesting some kind of theme or current.

One of the best, IMO, is Hannibal. That show has some quite amazing story and visuals. I've been heard suggesting that, except for the noted absence of cute and cuddly, this new show seems like the apotheosis of Bryan Fuller, and seems to be set to fulfill the broken promise of so many of his prior efforts, cancelled far too soon.

But, there's also The Following, which I want to love but doesn't quite seem to live up to my high hopes. Others include The Killing, The Cult and so forth.

I might also add the new Dracula, which started a bit slow for me, but really picked up toward the end, and the Wold Newton-esque Pulp re-telling was fun enough, with a strikingly interesting and compelling interpretation of Renfield.

But, the current cache of this trope is curiously common of late. What do you think is up? It's not quite apologetics for the police-state like 24 and other police procedurals are, so what's behind it, I wonder … or is it just that the high and low functioning psychopaths out there are an underserved market for shows they can identify with?
 
 
jgbell
05:04 / 26.03.14
Certainly The Blacklist should get honorable mention as well, if for no other reason than that James Spader is a bit mesmerizing, even if the rest is a little meh.
 
 
Tom Coates
15:20 / 26.03.14
Hannibal is, as you say, extraordinary - but unfortunately not very popular. I have a fear that it's not going to last Season 2 which would be a terrible crying shame. It's amazing. I think unfortunately it starts well but slightly generically and that people don't understand that its as good as it is. If it were on HBO, I can't help thinking it would be a slowly escalating hit.

The Following I watched all of Season 1 of, but honestly, it was bloody awful. Cheesy writing, unconvincing and the worst thing about it for me was all the Edgar Allan Poe stuff, which to me just screams 'I'm a goth teenager' rather than 'extraordinary inspiration for a cult leader'. It undermined everything for me. If it had been Milton or something and they'd thought it had some hidden cultish meanings I'd have bought it more. But Poe? It's like having a cult that murders people because of hidden messages in Neil Gaiman's lesser works...

For me I can't help but read this stuff through the lens of my abortive PhD - as essentially based on a desire to identify with characters who have no social constraints and move easily through the world without angst or agony, doing whatever things that they wish too, however awful they would be. The other human need, to feel safe and secure and like the world works itself out and our bad desires get suppressed again, is met in the hero who will fight the villain in the end.

With the focus increasingly on the psychopath, it's getting increasingly difficult to pretend that we're actually interested in the hero at all. And given that most of the victims of our villains tend to be women who are left arranged often naked for the delectation of the viewer, it's hard not to wonder why we as a society are so obsessed with seeing young women being raped and murdered on TV.
 
 
jgbell
21:01 / 26.03.14
Oh, indeed the loss of Hannibal would be a source of sadness. Unfortunately, I seem to agree with your assessment of The Following, though I really wanted to like it for James Purefoy's sake.

Your lens on the trend as catering to a cathartic escapism which allows vicarious freedom to be sociopathic seems like a good one. Certainly it could perhaps be a kind of new Stainless Steel Rat (but retold as a rusted anti-hero) to be liberated from the constraints of oppressive state and social pressures; but, at such an awful expense, as you point out!

There was one of the various Hellraiser sequels where Pinhead is in a blasted out church, and says to the screaming frightened humans, something like, "Why are you screaming? This is what you wanted!" And it was that very moment that I got up and walked out of the theatre, something which I almost never do no matter how bad a film is, because he was right in an odd way. I didn't ask for it, and didn't want it; that, what I came then to call, "culture of corrosion" … so, walked out and didn't look back.

It just seems so odd and heavy with ulterior message to be so laudatory to such psychopathy, and perhaps it is, as you say, a function of and symptom of pandering to systemic culturally created hate and misogyny.
 
 
jgbell
15:54 / 27.03.14
Of course, that begs the question: what's my excuse for watching them, then, if not the same?
 
 
jgbell
00:07 / 29.03.14
Just this week I realized I hadn't ever watched the final episodes of The West Wing, and had quite a number of feels finally watching them. And, one of the things I realized is how different my experience of that show has been when compared to either versions of House of Cards.

In many ways, for me, The West Wing was a kind of progressive fantasy, an escape and a catharsis for living in a world where Bush 43 was in office, but also there were characters on the show, quite a few, for whom I felt emotions while sharing the story. There were characters with whom I identified in certain and in general ways. I laughed. I cried. It became part of me. Over and over, many times.

Compared the the original BBC and the new Netflix version of House of Cards, the parallax is stark; but I think there's a definite case study in the way that the incipient fascism, and march toward the logical conclusion of that trait, of each is portrayed, in how the story unfolds, between the two version, aside from any comparison to The West Wing.

For me, the Ian Richardson portrayal of Urquart is someone with whom I could still feel some small emotional connection early on which, I think made the later developments that much more impactful. That version was a kind of ... Well, almost a tragedy. And, the ultimate conclusion was exactly the point at which I might have said, "if only he had not been flawed." Especially early on, there was a comfortable and welcome familial humor with which I could smile, and enjoy, with Ian Richardson's Urquart.

For the newest Netflix version, and Kevin Spacey's Underwood, I find the story still compelling, but I identify with nothing and really don't care for Underwood at all. This version is a noir thriller, I think instead of a tragedy. I await Underwood's ultimate end as a kind of refreshing justice, not as I awaited Urquart's with a tinge of tragic sorrow.

But, this difference seems to be the sense of the age. This is the Dark Knight House of Cards, one might perhaps say; but the Netflix version to me is intellectually compelling story, not. For me, emotionally compelling in any real sense; except, perhaps, vaguely, for a sense of the coming future relief at the end, a release. Spacey's Underwood is mainly vicious and inhuman, and not someone for which I care at all to overcome himself, so I'm not emotionally invested in the sorrow of his inability to do so. Spacey's Underwood induces me to a passionless state, emotionally detached from the story, and thus creates a kind of sympathetic lack of caring that mirrors the character's own. Underwood is then, perhaps, in some ways, entraining the audience into a shared psychopathy.

When I was a child, I strongly identified with Mr Spock on Star Trek, and felt longing and connection to the struggle to be emotionless and rational, while all the while actually having extraordinarily intense emotions under the surface, which seems quite the reverse of what these new narrative exemplars provide, namely emotionally inhuman thunderstorms of unchecked power.
 
 
jgbell
00:15 / 29.03.14
I also find myself coming back to the intriguing switch of the main character in House of Cards from a landed upper class conservative from Thatcher's cabinet to a southern Dixiecrat democrat with dirt poor family origin. I haven't fully thought the implications out, but it seems ripe for discussion. I fear I've not read the actual books these series are based on, but wonder what differences are there to discover as well.
 
 
jgbell
03:35 / 29.03.14
Seems to me one question these shows beg is what is an effective, ethical, and appropriate response to such dark triadic (narcissistic, Machiavellian, and psychopathic) and dark tetradic (add sadistic) people. As a culture and society, we have generally failed to find proper responses and mechanisms to avoid creating such people, as antagonists, stalkers, abusive and otherwise difficult people prevalent in our social circles and networks. My personal presumption is that these people are dysfunctional, and should be shunned; but, some are shockingly admired and valourized, like serial killers with strange charismatic appeal to cultic followers; but even the ones that no one actually likes, and are clearly disturbed to anyone they encounter, there are just so few responses.

Here's an article about the dark tetrad

Here's Wikipedia about the dark triad

Here's a story about someone that was cyber stalked which demonstrates how unsatisfactory the options for response are. The suggested response to stalkers is to not respond, which leaves them to ply their trade, and so forth.

Anyone who's been online for any amount of time has encountered these kinds of people, and how persistently rotten they are. And yet, as a society, we keep producing them.
 
  
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