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Ellis
20:44 / 02.07.01
Comic Shop that is?

Is it a good advertisement for the medium, a place where you would happily take strangers who are interested in comics?

Or is it filled with Star Wars models and busts of Witchblade?

My local in Swindon is called "Into The Void" and has lots of WWF figures, Marvel Siuper hero busts and Pokemon cards.
There's a shelf for the new titles and one for trades (a wide variety of Vertigo, JLA and Marvel Superheroes- I have to order any non Marvel and DC trades myself). Some erotica, a floor display for manga. Its pretty cramped though... so when there are 3 or more people in it gets hard to walk around.

I wouldnt take anyone thinking about getting into comics there because there is too much shelf space given to superheroes and Buffy/ Star Wars comics while the more serious stuff is ordered to demand mostly and left on a floor display hiding beneath the trades shelf where no one can really see them while the X and Bat titles have 2 shelves to themselves and Spiderman/ Superman has one.

Do you think comic shops should try to cater more for the adult and resmble more of a bookshop rather than the teenage fan?
 
 
RexMonday
09:15 / 03.07.01
the dallas/fort worth area, where i live, is blessed with an abundance of comics shops. unfortunately, none of them quite make it out of the geek niche.
i can mention two stores, though, that are worth your business if you happen to make it here. titan comics is probably the most outsider-friendly -- spacious, unscented, decent selection, a helpful owner, and a children's section at the front separated from the rest. keith's comics, on the other hand, is a total geek-fest. new-comers probably wouldn't even make it past the front door, but for those brave enough to enter, there is a helpful staff and the widest selection i've ever seen at any comic shop -- mainstream, independent, japanese, even some european books.
as for places that non-comics-readers might be tempted to visit, the only one i knew of closed down recently. they carried mainstream stuff, but gave just as much display space to independent and euro books.but the comics took up just a corner. the rest of the store was like a general pop-culture shop. they sold new and vintage movie-posters, funky t-shirts, movie scripts, all kinds of retro-kitsch, bettie page paraphenalia -- the kind of stuff that might attract young people looking to be tempted into a little impulse-buying. it's a shame it's gone.
 
 
klint
09:40 / 03.07.01
The Danger Room in Olympia is wonderful. If anyone's ever in the area you should stop by and see what comic shops could be like. Much more like a book store, organized by genre. They've got couches in the store so people can read stuff there. Lots of indies and TPBs. Friendly, helpful staff. They blow-up pages and post them outside to lure in non-comics fans.
 
 
Utopia
09:40 / 03.07.01
the central jersey area seems to only have about 3 major shops(that i've frequented anyway). starting off at the northernmost shop in red bank we have kevin smith's notorious jay and silent bob's secret stash. this place is great if you're the type that finds smith's films deep and enlightening. it's a nifty little store, i suppose, that always has a supply of allred and smith comics(not always a stock item 'round these parts) and odd old videos of odd old tv shows etc. this was the only store in the area which carried mike allred's "astroesque", not that the film itself was remarkable, but hey... it's located in a very trendy part of town and most of it's stock/customers(lil' "punkers") reflect this. next we have howell's record store, which has a piss poor selection of both comics and records(there are none, look if u don't believe me), topped by a creamy froth of asshole/snot employees. not to publicly bash the store but... finally we have toms river's steve's comic relief, my personal recommendation. here we find the true comix geeks/d&d masters/grungy twenty-something writer-filmakers etc. the selection is marvel/dc heavy, but a good amount of space is given to indies and the folks there are more than happy to get just about anything u need. it's a no frills kinda place that makes u grateful for natural light. this went on far too long but hopefully i've helped in guiding a fellow lost nj soul.
 
 
Ronald Thomas Clontle
09:40 / 03.07.01
Well, living in the NYC area, I'm blessed with an abundance of comics stores...I still haven't been to all of them in the five boroughs, I stumble upon new ones every so often. The one I most regularly go to is in Brooklyn Heights, on Montague Street. It's run pretty well...it gives a lot of wall space to nonmainstream stuff, it has a library of graphic novels, a dedicated indie and adult section, and always has hipster type indie punk girls working there. They are always playing the coolest radio station in the world, WFMU on their stereo. Unfortunately, they do have toys and trading cards and cut outs of Spock, but it could be a lot worse.

I buy most of my graphic novels and collections at Forbidden Planet off of Union Square in Manhattan, across the street from the movie theatre and the Virgin Megastore (also a good place for graphic novels, I should add). That store follows some of the better rules that Warren Ellis has carve into tablets: The front space is all graphic novels and collections, superhero stuff is segregated into a side wall area. They barely get new releases of individual issues. Collections are grouped by writer/artist and genre. It's wonderful. Problem is, there's a toy store in the back, an area for selling video games, Star Wars and Star Trek stuff all over, and they always seem to be playing Star Trek movies. They come close....but still can't resist the worst impulses.

There's a decent shop on 14th street near 8th Avenue...I don't go there often...it's the only store I can think of that makes a big deal about selling back issues. I think that shop sells a lot of golden and silver age stuff to collector types. there's a nice but small store I like that I found recently on 23rd near 9th ave (I might have the address off a bit) that I thought was cool if just for how they seem to emphasize Vertigo and independent comics over the mainstream Marvel and DC.

Any other good NYC stores I'm forgetting/neglecting to mention/don't know about? I'd love to know if there's anything particularly great...
 
 
Ronald Thomas Clontle
09:40 / 03.07.01
ah, I forget about St Mark's Comics on St. Mark's Place. It's pretty cool, they obviously emphasize the indie stuff over the mainstream...I never really go there, though. They have lots of indie punk girls working there too...
 
 
Ronald Thomas Clontle
09:40 / 03.07.01
quote:Originally posted by Ellis:

Do you think comic shops should try to cater more for the adult and resmble more of a bookshop rather than the teenage fan?



I'm not sure if my feelings haven't already been made obvious, but I think that if I were given a lot of money to do something like this, I'd get some space in the village somewhere, decorate it as tastefully and as shiny and hip looking as humanly possible...think a trendy restaurant or something...and make it like Barnes & Noble on the inside, with bookshelves filled with graphic novels filed by genre. I would only stock maybe 15% of the store with superhero things, only the most tasteful. I would really emphasize snobbery, I think. It would have to be the *different* comics place. It would need to have seeting---couches, benches, chairs...and a cafe of some kind.
and really good music.

I'd want to stock non-comics books too, but only really subversive non-mainstream kind of books...the sort of books that would likely appeal to the sort of people who read these boards. pamphlets, diy books and comics, books made by artists, photographers, and designers... etc

I'd want to attract the smartest, snobbiest, 'hippest' people. and from there, I think a lot of good things could be done. If it did really well, it would be cool to franchise into other cities (San Fran, Boston, Chicago, Seattle, Olympia, DC, LA, etc).

Ah, to dream.

[ 03-07-2001: Message edited by: Clontle ]
 
 
Ellis
09:40 / 03.07.01
Contle: That's exactly what I'm hoping to do in a few years. (Need cash first though!)
 
 
sleazenation
09:40 / 03.07.01
The great thing about living in london is that there are 5 comic shops right in the center of town ranging from the fantastic Gosh with a fine range of comics of all genre arranged on its bookshopesque shelves and racks- to forbidden planet- a toyshop with comics that is kidding itself if it thinks it is anything different.

When I was living in the wilds of essex I went to one called 'the cartoon shop'. This little curiosity was odd even by the standards of comicshops, being run as it was by a middleaged man with a tanktop fetish who didn't actually seem to read or in any way like *any* of the stock he sold. Rather than employ anyone of a greater degree of enthusiasm all the part time staff positions were held by old ladies…
 
 
E Randy Dupre
09:40 / 03.07.01
It's been mentioned before, but my local is shit. They stock most of the major Marvel and DC titles and... that's it. A few trades (mostly collections of - wait for it - the major Marvel and DC titles) and a fair selection of toys makes up the rest of the stock. Standing orders regularly go missing or simply don't appear.

It used to be pretty good, too. Shame.

I went into Forbidden Planet for the first time when I was down in London last month. If you want to know what comic shops shouldn't be like, you couldn't get a better example. Cluttered and filthy. Clientelle that look exactly like the standard comic fan cliche. And a rather odd smell hanging around the new comics section.
 
 
Tuna Ghost: Pratt knot hero
09:40 / 03.07.01
The Great Escape in Madison, Tennessee:

It's a good place. Plenty of back-issues, no mini-busts sitting out, helpful staff. It also sells old records (with an alarmingly large blues section), used cd's and videogames, odd t-shirts and varous comics related odds n' ends. It's a good place to hock old cd's and use the money to pick up whatever comics you need. It favors niether mainstream nor underground, everything gets it's place on the shelves. Not a bad selection of trades, although most are in only fair condition. All in all, a good place to take someone interested in comics. There's one in downtown Nashville that has a larger back issue selection, and I've heard of one in Kentucky that's even bigger.

Nameless local store in Farmington, Michigan:

Wide selection, and helpful staff. On the shelves are the current month stuff with the past four months next to it. Kinda neat way of doing things. Any trades are kept next to the title's spot on the shelves. The only complaint I have is that the back issues are kept behind the counter, and you have to ask to see various boxes. Makes it a bit more difficult if you're just browsing to find stuff you really don't need.
 
 
e-n
10:31 / 03.07.01
Dublin's forbidden planet isn't too bad. New section at the back,old issues along one waal, trades on racks in the middle, magazines up the front, t-shirts to the side leadong into a room with manga and some artwork books.
Now if only you didn't have to walk in the fron t door and be confronted by all the wwf tat and veer down the stairs it'd be great.But then it would propbably go out of business as the toys upstairs seem to sell pretty well.

I, however mostly get my comincs at sub-city, to small to sit,narrow room with racks on walls and in middle feel, cosy really.Sometimes have cool stuff(like the X-men trailer last year) playing on a tv scren there.good tunes nice staff and (best of all)they stay open late on thursdays so I can get my "fix" on the way home.

There used to be a teensy shop selling mad old collectibel issues(got a few doompatrols there) but since the building it was in was refurbished I have no ideea where it's disappeared to.
 
 
bio k9
11:45 / 03.07.01
I drove down to the Danger Room a couple of months ago and I'm sorry to say I was underwelmed. Not a bad store but I wouldn't make the drive just to shop there. They did have a decent selection of small press stuff though. I think maybe it was the role playing games that turned me off...or maybe the pissy weather...or the fact that Calvin Johnson could walk in at any moment...

In Tacoma (the birthplace of garage rock!) we have one store, down from God knows how many in the mid 90s what with everyone and their mother selling comics and baseball cards. Its just as well except the store we have sucks so I have to drive my ass to Federal Way (Action City-nothing but superhero comics, toys, busts, ect... but the owner is a helpful/pretty cool guy and really likes comics, the store is clean, I've seen girls come in on their own, and he has a shit load of trades) or Seattle (any of the stores in the University District) to get my comics.

If anyone in the Seattle to Olympia area has other recommendations i would love to hear them.
 
 
No star here laces
12:02 / 03.07.01
I want to big up Deadhead Comics in Edinburgh (my old local). It's the best comics shop ever.

Note, that is expressly not in terms of being a good place to buy comics. Stuff would be missed off my order, they received the stock a week after forbidden planet got it, causing me intense pain when I would know that others were reading the new 'I feel sick' but I couldn't, and the range was pretty shitty, especially of trades.

But that didn't matter because the place actually made it feel like it was cool to be into comics. The proprietors were a drunken welshman "pershonal mate ae Kev O'Neill" and a very cute but very dismissive looking woman who didn't speak much. People would just hang out there - but not fanboy types, funny trampy types, and hard-looking types and occasionally even female-types. Loads of aspiring artist-types. You could go round at lunchtime and have a drink or whatever with Gaf (the welshman) and just talk crap or crap about comics or play computer games. I would happily spend entire afternoons in there.

Trouble was it was always on the brink of financial disaster, probably because of the failure to attract the fanboy types, or because Gaf drunk all the profits, who knows.
 
 
Not Here Still
16:57 / 03.07.01
I used to really love my old local in Leicester, which it's been about two years since I've gone to so I can't actually remember the name (bugger).
It seemed to be the only shop still running when every other shop in the area had run down. In this little, weird, area of town (It's the one by the Serbian Orthodox church and the Die Hard happy hardcore club, if anyone else knows Leicester) the place shone out.
It's where I got introduced to comics, by a professional fruit machine player called Neil who claimed he couldn't swear thanks to a gypsy curse. And everyone there was very nice too, which helped.
My locals now are both OK, although I'd say Chester just edges it.

And there is nothing wrong with Star Wars models apart from the fact I was one of those fools who blew all his up with bangers when he was a kid.....
 
 
Mr Tricks
09:28 / 04.07.01
COMIC RELIEF in downtown berkeley IS the BOMB!!!

Open late usually 'till around 8-9pm. centrally located, & the best variety of books (not just comics) I've ever seen.

stuff from Europe, manga, zines, erotica, south america, underground press . . the list goes on.

The Only totally WANTS people to check suff out & it's not uncommon for people to park it and read ALOT right there in the store. Ask a question and you just may get more info than you were looking for but it's cool & entheuastic.

The soundtrack ranges from punk to stuff I can't quite catagorise. Excellent place.

I reciently heard of a place in San Fran that's more of a Comic-Cafe. Where U can actuall buy your Double-Soy-Mocha and kick back and read the books you just picked up on one of the couchs there. Haven't checked it out but I will . . .

Still, as I MUST pick-up my books first thing on wednesday. I do so at the shop just about a mile from my office it's the local hole in the wall Comic Depot. The books come in & are on the shelf by 11:00am which is just fine by me. The Owners are cool & generous with discounts and or credits. After the end of the day I'll swing by CR to check out anything that might not have made it to the Comic Depot . . .
 
 
levon
09:28 / 04.07.01
Comics Factory in Pasadena, Ca. has a good variety of mainstream and indie comics, and they rent out HK movies too. But best of all, it's right next door to a Zankou Chicken.
 
 
uncle retrospective
09:28 / 04.07.01
quote:Originally posted by e-n:
There used to be a teensy shop selling mad old collectibel issues(got a few doompatrols there) but since the building it was in was refurbished I have no ideea where it's disappeared to.


According to Rich from Sub city Liam (the guy running it) is still kicking about at trade fairs. I was sick when that place closed, I got all my DP and Shade stuff from there.
Mind you the place closing down saved me a shedload..
 
 
e-n
09:28 / 04.07.01
Is rich the guy with the glasses or the other one?

come to think of it, I got my flex mentallo's at a con last year and the boxes the comics were in looked vaguely familiar even if the gut behind them did not.
Saved me a bunch of cash and bother closing down too.

Have you noticed that forbidden planet in dublin has a bilbo(spaced not LOTR)/bill bailey lookalike?

Does every comic shop have one of these guys?
 
 
uncle retrospective
09:28 / 04.07.01
quote:Originally posted by e-n:
Is rich the guy with the glasses or the other one?

The one with the glasses and the mohawk is rich.

Have you noticed that forbidden planet in dublin has a bilbo(spaced not LOTR)/bill bailey lookalike?

Does every comic shop have one of these guys?


Christ I hope not, that thing scares me everytime, just lurkig there like a huge standy of EVIL. All I want is comics all I get is soiled underware.
 
 
e-n
10:52 / 04.07.01
ooh right
 
 
klint
02:42 / 05.07.01
quote:Originally posted by Biologic K-9:
I drove down to the Danger Room a couple of months ago and I'm sorry to say I was underwelmed. Not a bad store but I wouldn't make the drive just to shop there. They did have a decent selection of small press stuff though. I think maybe it was the role playing games that turned me off...or maybe the pissy weather...or the fact that Calvin Johnson could walk in at any moment...



Yeah, I don't that it'd be worth commuting from Tacoma to Oly to buy comics, but I think it's worth checking out the Danger Room just to see how comic stores could be. The role playing stuff doesn't bother me, prolly cause I used to be into it. It doesn't really seem like a real big element to the store anyway, it's just a single bookshelf. I mean, the Acme Novelty Library display is a much larger part of the store.
 
 
Pin
21:24 / 05.07.01
My local’s amazing. I set it up myself from the money I saved from when my job at Safeways suddenly changed over-night to a job where all you do is play pool in the canteen all day for £70 an hour as well as the proceeds from selling all my 6th Form art work in advance orders (obviously when it was all done, it exceeded the original worth and they all paid double). It’s in the middle of a magickally redeveloped London that just so happens to match my own psychogeography of my place, and shifts to fit whatever new ideas I have.

It has a big fuck-off room full of amazing old chairs that look shit but you just sink into them, as well as sofas of the same kind, not to mention the furniture that looks all trendy and modern and sleek but is still as comfy. People just come to this room to crash, read the stuff they brought in the shop, or anywhere else, talk, plan new artistic endeavors, listen to the radio station I set up in the back of the shop to impose my own personal taste in music on as many people as possible, drink alcoholic/non-alcoholic drinks from the bar, fucking whatever.

But before you get to this room, there’s the shop proper. Here, there’s every fucking cool comic ever in trades as well as individual issue’s, should you be so inclined. The people who work here and the coolest, most-beautiful, punkas-in-the-best-way-possible sort of people who know what they’re on about. And it’s not just comics... Oh no, there’s all the cool books you ever wanted to read, and when you buy them from here, they all make more sense, and you can buy all of Pynhcon’s work from here and it’ll be a complete joy to read without the greatness being spoiled. And there’s all the coolest clothes (by anyone’s standards) for next to nothing, and there’s all those shit-cool artifacts of pop culture you ever wanted to own just there in front of you for cheap. And there’s records of every format here, all old rare shit and cutting edge stuff and trust me, the staff know everything about this stuff and they all work there simply cos they want to (thought trust me, the amount of money this shop makes, I can afford to pay them their £10 an hour wages... ).

And the way the shop’s laid out... It’s like the coolest library you ever wanted to go to, with enormous shelves that go right to the overly-high ceiling with those big wheeling stair-cases to get about and everything’s easy to find but it’s not done by name or category, but you just know where the stuff you want is. Even if you don’t know what you’re going there for, you can wander around and you’ll always pick up something that makes the world clearer and affects the way you see the world. But that’s just the books and comics (no distinction between the two)... the rest of the pop culture junk/jewels, clothes and records are in the biggest Day-Glo tacky-as-a-cool-thing set of inter-linked shops that are small and cramped but there’s never too many people in them.

Think “bohemian” in all good ways...

Oh no, wait, you say this isn’t the Atlas Of Places We Wished Existed? Oh right... well, my actual local is a revolving stand at the back of Ottakers that currently has 40 trades (mostly shit) on it.

And Ellis... give’sa job, mate!
 
 
Sandfarmer
12:54 / 07.07.01
My main shop in Atlanta that I visit is Classic Comics on Peidmont in Buckhead. Check it out if you are ver in town. Its a small hole in the wall but the subscription prices are the best and the atmosphere is the best. Its all because Brian, the guy who owns it. He's a cool guy. Good pal of mine. He is one of the guys behind the Atlanta Comicon. He goes out of his way to promote local comics and indie stuff. He talks to his customers and tries to turn them onto stuff they are not reading. Not in a sales man way either. Just as a fan of comics. The clientel is great too. Its mostly adults. Doctors, lawyers, cops, strippers, pro-wrestlers, college kids, goth fucks... you name it. Lots of great conversation and a messy table you can usually find room on to sit down and eat some lunch or read comics.

Atlanta has at least 12 comic shops I've been to and most of them are pretty good. Its a great city.
 
 
Our Lady of The Two Towers
17:30 / 07.07.01
Gosh is lovely, though a bit crap in the back issues department, not their fault because they have no room. Forbidden Planet, as Sleaze said, have diversified the fuck away from comics, probably since the slump, and now has a back issue selection smaller than Gosh's. I expect in a few years time they'll have even less comics content. The place in Denmark Street (IIRC) that someone recommended has moved a couple of doors along to a cellar and was crap when i visited, but may sort itself out. Comicarama, or whatever that place is along from FP) is the ITV of comic shops, quite tacky and nasty but gives a no-thrills service. Mega City in Camden is a bit fatbeardy but does have a good range of current comics, back issues and trade paperbacks.
 
 
King Mob
06:07 / 11.07.01
Great place, it's called Dr. Volt's and i really should hang out there more... 'cause i feel like Norm when i walk in there.

ah...
 
 
CaseK
06:11 / 19.01.03
Oh, a lovely place, Big Brain Comics: 81 S 10th St Minneapolis, MN 55403
612-338-4390 (USA). So nice -- a lovely space to start with, hardwood floors even, but still just like a comic shop should be. All the stuff you want, and stuff you didn't even know you wanted until you saw it. And Michael Drivas, the fellow whose shop it is, is the nicest guy. Even to me, the girl who only comes in rarely (though I do spend lots when I go in, I should say in my defense). He has masterful customer memory.

Plus, best of all, we went to their fifth anniversary party -- Mr. Drivas invited us -- and they fed us! And gave us drinks! Made grilled cheese sandwiches! Best comic shop I've ever been to. Honest & true.
 
 
bjacques
18:13 / 19.01.03
I've got a few places to recommend. Nan's in Houston, Texas, on Southwest Freeway at Shepherd. Great selection of comics, books, anime and games, plus lots of back issues and obscure 1930s and 1940s non-DC/Marvel/superhero comics. But they've also got TV/movie/toys too if you want that. They've been there 20 years now, run by two guys who took over when the founder retired. Great guys who really know their stuff and have long memories. One warning though--you know how fat comics fans can get? Well, remember that Houston ranks as the fattest city in the US, probably the Western Hemisphere. It's all the good cheap restaurants.
There's also Third Planet, on the same freeway, opposite side, just past Kirby. Rumors of their death are greatly exaggerated, and they happened to have the issue of Starstruck I'd been missing for 15 years. They also carry out of print SF books, like that Murder Ink / New Worlds shop or whatever it's called, on Charing X Road.

In Amsterdam, I have two and a half locals. Lambiek, on Kerkstraat 79 (I think), a block west of the Leidseplein, the first comics shop in the Netherlands, began about the early '60s. On the walls they've got European comics filed by artist, as well as a lot of original artwork at reasonable prices. They also have a great selection of US comics, especially indie and 1960s underground. I came away with all 9 issues of Viper, a French magazine of drug comics! If they like your look, they might give you a few puffs from the closing-time spliff. There's a rumor the owner may retire, but somebody may take it over.

The second is Henk, on the Zeedijk where it meets the Nieuwmarkt. They're really good on DC Vertigo, and I might go back for the 4 issues of Shit the Dog, but they're e6,- each. I got Shaolin Soccer from them.

Finally is Gojoker, pretty much at the other end of the Zeedijk, which has a pretty decent selection too.

Pin, you forgot coffee and nooks and crannies and interior space that can't possibly fit into a hole in the wall storefront.
 
 
dragonstout
03:12 / 20.01.03
I second Comics Factory in Pasadena, California; I live across the country now, but they're such a great comics store that I still buy from there, sending them e-mails every day as to which comics I'd like (and having a friend send them to me when a good amount piles up).
 
 
The Natural Way
07:27 / 20.01.03
Lada: I think Comicarama's all about the back issues, bab
 
 
ONLY NICE THINGS
08:42 / 20.01.03
They come close....but still can't resist the worst impulses.

Way-ulll...

Graphic novels, on terms of square footage, can make money. Toys make money (a collectable One Ring, whyever the bob fuck you might want one, costs £20 and occupies the same space as a copy of "Lucifer"). Comics generally make no money at all. So, in many cases it isn;t so much the fanboy desire for action figures that is motivating these decisions but the knowledghe that you make more margin on a Spawn action figure and you can stock them in the dead space above arms' reach in a way you can't with comics, which need to be to some extent browsable...

So...in London we have a whole bunch of these things, but probably about five that I'd describe as "comic shops" in any meaningful sense...

Comic Showcase is where I most often end up, simply because its opening hours are the most work-friendly (it stays open until 8 on Thursdays, Fridays and, I think, Saturday). It's almost precisely your paradigmatic comic shop, and disturbs me not only because it looks and smells just like Comics Showcase in Oxford but because it appears to have the same staff; shades of Howl's moving castle here. So, comics are arranged by publisher (black mark), and DC and Marvel get the most shelfspace, followed by Dreamscape/Image/Whatever the fuck they're called with Viz/Oni/Dark Horse arranged shambolically over two smaller shelves at the back. Black mark. On the plus side, they lay out the new indies on a little table on the way in, so you don't have to penetrate too far into Fatbyrdja to get them. Also plus points for providing photocopied sheets containing the new releases. However, these are innovations that minimise browsing time, which is unfortunate but necessary because the clientele are scary and smell bad. There is no real focus on back issues - there is aroom downstairs with maybe a dozen longboxes worth, along with some small press, locally-produced comics, but often the room is not manned and as such is blocked off, so black mark there too. The staff follow the usual rule of big fat owner and slender apprentice in faded Nirvana T-shirt, and although a bit disconcerting they are polite, will on occasion offer an opinion on what you are buying and won't generally ignore you while heatedly discussing Breast Girl #203. Decent place to grab the weeks' new issues in five minutes, but I wouldn't want to live there.

Forbidden Planet is bascailly a toy, book and vide shop, but is still the largest emporium devoted to the socially excluded in London, and as such the fraction (by usual standards) of its floorspcace devoted to comics is still fairly sizable. You won't find many surprises here - all mainstream stuff, really. Its best use is for reading things you don't want to buy but fancy a look at, since t is more supermarket-like than the other shops and has a higher punter to shopowner ration. Also, although their store of back issues is pretty sucky, badly organised and, I suspect, no longer being replenished (though they do sell "collectable" comics, i.e. overpriced first issues and the like, stuck up on the walls), they *do* have the previous issue of their titles arranged in bookshelves, so again good for browsing and reading. Large graphic novel section (two lengthy bookshelves), but superhero-dominated. I wouldn't try getting any special services from the staff, mind: the margins on comics just aren't high enough. And, since this is the geeky equivalent of flipping burgers, they look undernourished and germ-ridden, as opposed to the clientele, who look overnourished and germ-ridden. The sound of scores of milkstinkers all mouth-breathing in a gentle, unconscious rhythm is a very strange one.

Just down the road from Forbidden Planet is the Mighty World of Comicana, which is *terrrifying*, but does indeed specialise in back issues. It's a small business, it needs our support, te tum te tum, but if you have the money *and* the desire to pay that much for the first appearance of Ant-Man II, then I don't know you.

Also nearby, facing the British Museum, is Gosh!, generalyl held up as the saviour of comics retailing, and as such the one most likely to go out of business at any moment, because the world is perverse. It scores big for having the graphic novels at the front, and for having them in alphabetical order, with a decent representation of indies. Not sure how they do on tiny press/locally produced comics...the "recommended by" tags on certain of the GNs is a nice touch, although they have a certain "who likes puppies?" feel to them (League of Extraordinary gentlemen? Really?). Comics are also alphabetised, and cover the walls of a corridor leading to the downstairs (cartoons and comic art for sale and a small but varied back issues and alternative GNs section), and recent GNs asre put alongside current issues, I think - good indexing here, and I don't see why more people don't do it. The down side is basically that this just throws into sharp relief how reliant the comics market is on basically shit things. Also, the tininess of the space available means that you are thrust into the very teeth of fannism. It's disheartening, as I have mentioned before, to have to begin your quest into the grown-up, sexy, cool world of grown-up, sexy, cool comics by explaining to a shoggoth in the by-now-legend Green Lantern T that he is blocking a) your view, b) your ingress and c) OUT THE SUN. But that might just be me.

Finally (not counting the Books and Comics exchange, and sticking to my experience of Zones 1 and 2) there's Mega City Comics. This has a varied range - mainstream stuff along one wall, odd stuff, rather whimsically organised into "Gothic", "Adults Only" and such things, on the others, a shelf of videos (manga porn and "cult" stuff, mainly), toys, clothing and accessories around the sales desk to entice the impulse fanboy. New GNs are arranged to face the punter as he walks in, nice touch, and the general way to describe the shop appears to be clockwise. Marvel and Dc again get the lion's share of shelf space, but there is a decent allocation for more far afield stuff. Points definitely lost for polybagging almost all the stuff on the shelves, but points scored for having laminated "testers" that you can read with impunity. Mega-City Comics has probably the most serious back issue section of any of the surviving mainstream shops (Acme comics, in all its shambolic, ridiculously badly planned glory, is missed), with a long room (maybe fifty feet?)'s central spine largely devoted to them. Also, the short far wall (fiften or twenty feet? Going form memory here) has the closest thing to a quarter bin I have seen in London outside Acme comics, with comics going usually for 50p. Still a fair whack, but I got a lot of Doom Patrols and Shades from these boxes...also, MCC is the only comics shop in London I have ever known to having an actual sale (howe does this work? If comics aren't sale-or-return, how come we *don't* have more quarter bins? Low order numbers?), which also scores points. God knows what the clientele or the staff are like - I don't get to Camden enough - but in general when I do go to MCC I usually come out with more stuff than I expected, which is arguably a good sign...
 
 
The Natural Way
11:37 / 20.01.03
That's a really bloody good, detailed post and filled to the brim w/ the sort of stuff that got my arse kicked roundly over in the funnylittlemen (can't remember what it was actually called) thread.
 
 
ONLY NICE THINGS
12:41 / 20.01.03
It was called the Trenchcoat Brigade, and is curently on page 2 of the Comics forum. And I think the only person who really kicked your arse was Jack fear, since he was one of the people you seemed to be complaining about. Whereas who's going to stand up and say, "Actually, I smell of milk and I hate the way you're stereotyping milk-stinking fatbyrds!"
 
 
yawn - thing's buddy
14:14 / 20.01.03
Jeepers! I'm not leaving Glasgow for London Town if that's the state the comic shops are in.
 
 
The Natural Way
14:19 / 20.01.03
Gosh is really very nice.
 
  

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