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Help me shamelessly prostitute my talent!

 
 
Less searchable M0rd4nt
10:11 / 11.03.02
Whilst I'm good at the electronics side of things, and will no doubt continue to pursue it in one form or another, I'm going to start making inroads into a writing career. Apart from allowing me to work from home a lot of the time, this will obviate the need for me ever to do Fourier Analysis ever-a fucking-gain, ever.

Now whilst I'm ultimately interested in churning out horror novels for fourteen-year-old Goths, my more immediate concern is scoring some freelance writing work for the summer and beyond.

I plan to approach the technical jounals as a starting point but I'm basically willing to whore out my writey goodness to anyone who'll pay me. Any tips, advice, or encouraging noises would be hugely appreciated.
 
 
deja_vroom
10:23 / 11.03.02
Smoarghh!!!

This is my encouraging noise. I swear.
 
 
bitchiekittie
10:28 / 11.03.02
I have absolutely no useful advice to give. hence my frequent hug-within-* usage. however, Im toasting my ultra-yummy bottle of water to your success

cheers!
 
 
Bear
10:33 / 11.03.02
We require someone to create a Fashion supplement with the title "What the Blonde Woman's handbag tells us about the breakup" - oh wait a sec...
sorry I'm no help either - I'm sure someone can help though... best of luck.....!
 
 
higuita
11:26 / 11.03.02
One thing I've always found is that freelancing is always a bitch. That said...

Which way do you want to go? Would you prefer to
a] Come up with an idea and hawk it round publishers in a variety of suitable formats
or
b] Examine one particular publisher/organ [qnnnghhsnhsnickker] and start thinking about ideas to suit?

Look at Willings Press Guide - there should be a copy in a large library near you - local is no good, you need a central one. That has the publishers of the magazines, their addresses, numbers and names. If it's a few years out of date, forget it and try to find an up to date copy.

After that, my other advice is try to avoid using the net when making contact. Chase the relevant person down [make sure you get the name and number of the correct person - there's nothing worse than explaining a feature idea to the wrong person] and talk to them direct about your idea. It's harder to turn you down live on the phone than via the net.

As someone who works in journalism, (but has no budget for freelancers - my apologies) I frequently don't reply to speculative 'can I do some writing for you' letters. If someone can't be asked to phone, they probably haven't got the bottle to do the job properly.

Hope this helps - anything more specific, pm me. As I remember there's plenty of writy-types around here, so you shouldn't be short of advice.

And here's my encouraging noise...


HOOOOM-ARGH!
 
 
deja_vroom
12:01 / 11.03.02
Hey Mordant, check out these links, hope they're the sort of thing you're thinking of:

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pointless and uncalled for
12:06 / 11.03.02
Hey Mordant, how about doing some IR/National Geographic style writing. Take a vacation to some area where you can get a good yet somewhat unexplored story of human life. Then hawk the goods around to magazines/newpapers/other publications that may have interest in the subject. If you like the sound of this and want a photographer to assist you I will put my name forward as a candidate for the position.
 
 
Less searchable M0rd4nt
12:49 / 11.03.02
Thanks, guys.

Basically, I'm just looking for something that'll keep me in money during the interval between my student loan running out and my becoming a huge toxic mecha-celebrity writer/pop-tart. An extra few quid over the coming months wouldn't go amiss either, although my top priority is getting my degree.
 
 
We're The Great Old Ones Now
13:00 / 11.03.02
God I'm old.
 
 
Less searchable M0rd4nt
13:07 / 11.03.02
Well, hell, I'm 28. Late bloomer and all that.
 
 
We're The Great Old Ones Now
13:51 / 11.03.02
Hm. It's possible I will forgive you for your all-too-frequent displays of talent and intelligence, then.

You are not to become disgracefully successful before I do, however, or I shall take steps. Like stamping my feet and whining.
 
 
invisible_al
13:55 / 11.03.02
Hoom Hooom Hooom and other postive noises.

I'm also going to poke Mr E with a sharp stick as he has written childrens fiction for Point Horror. And then had his credit changed to their equivalent of Alan Smithee.

But that's beside the point he knows things so I will hunt him down so you may utilise his brain.

Hmmm wheres the rest of the Barbelith Journo posse, *puts fingers to head* summoning ariadne, sleazenation and meme buggerer to join together in some kind of giant robot to stomp on Tokyo while dispensing useful freelancing advice.

And btw 28, no never, madam is clearly no older than 25.

 
 
Mr Ed
14:29 / 11.03.02
Ouch, poked indeed. It wasn't Point, for the record, but it's so appaling I'm not telling who it WAS for.

Teen horror fiction is as hard to do as any, but in my experience, theres a pile of guidelines avaible, you just have to ask the publishers.

I know that Hamblyn have a series of "thou shalt nots" for teen horror. Strangely enough, cork screws in the head are fine but bondage is right out.

Writers conventions are good for blagging commisions and contacts, if you have the right kind of head on.

To make money, you're better off writing features for all and sundry. It's quick (ish) easy and fun (ish) to do. The duller the publication, the easier it is to get a feature commisoned, but the pay will be low, so be proflific.

Niche mags, like Chocolate Lover, Beanie Fanatic and the like are good targets. Avoid anything produced by John Brown Publishing unless it's Bizzarre though, you'll get badly paid/stiffed.)
 
 
Less searchable M0rd4nt
20:17 / 11.03.02
My web-fu has revealed unto me one or two webzines that offer a small payment for submissions- tuppence a word, sort of thing. Does anyone know much about this? How trustworthy are they likely to be?
 
 
sleazenation
20:30 / 11.03.02
Heh- i remember my first magazine pitch
for some magazine that probably never saw the light of day- some al for contributers ad I saw in the Guardian They like my idea enough to pay met for a detailed plan but not enough to get me to write it, but were nice enough to pay me a £30 kill fee.

Not had much experience in the world of paid web writing though. Bt worth baring in mind is the world of freelance writing is very fraught and the fact is that freelance writers are usually the last people to get paid.
 
 
Less searchable M0rd4nt
20:46 / 11.03.02
Sleaze- I temped at the wrong end of the food chain for two and a bit years solid. Belive me, it can't really get more fraught than that. I hope.
 
 
Trijhaos
09:22 / 12.03.02
Freelance writing? How well does that pay? I found this site earlier this month, when after my attempts at getting a real job failed, I looked into online work. Unfortunately, I'm not too good at filling out surveys and the like. That and it doesn't pay well.

How important is getting your name out there? I finally found a site that takes articles and reviews from people, but they don't pay. Although they don't pay, I figure the experience may be good.
 
 
higuita
09:22 / 12.03.02
Get your name out there at all costs - write for free at the start just to get some stuff published.
As far as an editor is concerned, unless you've got stuff published, you're not worth looking at (unless you're the new Will Self or summat).
Webzines etc v good as frequently it's hard to get decent content with no budget, indie music zines ditto (but you get something in return ie tickets, cds, a chance to meet Rockbitch etc).
Publish! publish! publish!
 
 
Less searchable M0rd4nt
12:24 / 13.03.02
Here are some sites I've come across that might be helpful to anyone with similar plans.

Salon.com

absolutewrite.com

Black Gate (Fantasy zine)

Cemetary Dance (Dark fantasy)

(Speculative writing resource)
 
  
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