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Obumma: the first Affirmative Action President

  
 
Peach Pie
12:38 / 13.09.09
[Redacted by mods]
 
 
ONLY NICE THINGS
13:39 / 13.09.09
Suit hack or sincere stupidity? YOU DECIDE!
 
 
Tuna Ghost: Pratt knot hero
05:32 / 14.09.09
Suit hack! No, wait, probably the second one. Also, my thesis was fourth-rate and my job performance, in every job I've ever had, has been pretty shit. I'm white, clever, good looking and from a privileged family and routinely tell America and my fellow americans to eat my ass. At the last measure, I have a 25% chance of being president one day in the next 30 years, despite a history of frankly ridiculous amounts of drug abuse. I'm not sure what conclusions you can draw from this, but I'll bet they are profound.
 
 
jentacular dreams
09:04 / 14.09.09
You are Gene Amondson and I claim my five pounds!
 
 
jentacular dreams
21:03 / 14.09.09
I am pleased we still has mods.
 
 
ONLY NICE THINGS
21:36 / 14.09.09
Well, it took two days, and if Mordant hadn't have happened to be passing it wouldn't have happened. This kind of content is pretty much the coming wave. Still, it's been lovely, hasn't it?
 
 
Regrettable Juvenilia
23:47 / 14.09.09
Ahhhh, yes. Grand!
 
 
Tuna Ghost: Pratt knot hero
07:01 / 15.09.09
Hmmm, have there been many posts like these as of late? I can't recall any that were quite so...ah...ugly.
 
 
Peach Pie
17:36 / 17.09.09

My apologies, people. I am sorry to have put you through that.

I post predominantly on another site. Our politics section has been taken over by a poster who incessantly hints that President Obama is con man who has been given unfair advantage because of his skin color, and indeed that all black people under-perform other races:

http://www.femalefirst.co.uk/board/the-o-bumma-thread-original-vintage-edition-t182847.html

Our constant pleas to moderators to delete the racist bull-crap infecting the site are ignored time and again, and in fact two members have been banned for (as far as I can see) *complaining* about the racism.

All the nasty remarks in my original post were verbatim quotes of his, that have remained on the board, apparently sacred.

I just wanted to check that this wouldn't happen on a decently moderated site to preserve my sanity.

Sorry...
 
 
Peach Pie
17:45 / 17.09.09

His BS account of black people being allowed to cheat their way through Harvard is at post 6 of this page:

http://www.femalefirst.co.uk/board/the-o-bumma-thread-original-vintage-edition-t182847-600.html

We've been asking for it to be deleted for over a year.
 
 
Eek! A Freek!
19:13 / 17.09.09
I just wanted to check that this wouldn't happen on a decently moderated site to preserve my sanity.

Decently moderated*? Hmmmm... Risk taker, eh?








*No offense to the active mods, who do a good job, but are a little short-staffed to be effective.
 
 
ONLY NICE THINGS
21:44 / 17.09.09
Ah, sincere stupidity, then, although not quite in the way I imagined.
 
 
ONLY NICE THINGS
00:13 / 18.09.09
(Incidentally, this is why without functional moderation or banning the board cannot be opened - or at least, cannot be opened unless you want the kind of insane racist word salad you can see over there. If you do, then that's fine, of course.)
 
 
Peach Pie
15:54 / 18.09.09
Sorry Nice Things, me no understand...

You mean it's impossible to open *this* board without moderators here?
 
 
ONLY NICE THINGS
17:33 / 18.09.09
That's pretty much the size of it, old stick. I mean, you're one of the good people, but in order to make a point about a message board nobody else here cares about, you've landed us with a thread at the top of the Switchboard with an awkwardly racist title, which cannot be changed or deleted. Imagine what might happen if people who weren't good or nobly motivated,as we are, arrived in numbers. If that's what people want then that's fine, but I think it's useful to understand one's options.
 
 
whothehell@where?
22:52 / 09.10.09
how the fuck did he win a nobel peace prize?
 
 
Mr Tricks
23:02 / 09.10.09
Well,
Barack just e-mailed me, I don't think he'll mind my re-posting it here

    This morning, Michelle and I awoke to some surprising and humbling news. At 6 a.m., we received word that I'd been awarded the Nobel Peace Prize for 2009.

    To be honest, I do not feel that I deserve to be in the company of so many of the transformative figures who've been honored by this prize -- men and women who've inspired me and inspired the entire world through their courageous pursuit of peace.

    But I also know that throughout history the Nobel Peace Prize has not just been used to honor specific achievement; it's also been used as a means to give momentum to a set of causes.

    That is why I've said that I will accept this award as a call to action, a call for all nations and all peoples to confront the common challenges of the 21st century. These challenges won't all be met during my presidency, or even my lifetime. But I know these challenges can be met so long as it's recognized that they will not be met by one person or one nation alone.

    This award -- and the call to action that comes with it -- does not belong simply to me or my administration; it belongs to all people around the world who have fought for justice and for peace. And most of all, it belongs to you, the men and women of America, who have dared to hope and have worked so hard to make our world a little better.

    So today we humbly recommit to the important work that we've begun together. I'm grateful that you've stood with me thus far, and I'm honored to continue our vital work in the years to come.

    Thank you,

    President Barack Obama


so, it's also been used as a means to give momentum to a set of causes. I wonder of the Nobel Prize Committee watch FOX news.
 
 
■
15:54 / 10.10.09
how the fuck did he win a nobel peace prize?

Not being George.
 
 
Quantum
15:23 / 15.10.09
I notice his rival McCain voted to continue allowing private defence contractors in Iraq to get away with rape - story here but beware it concerns sexual assault

The legislation to end the bar on legal action passed the Senate with a clear majority but 30 Republican members voted against it, including the former presidential candidate John McCain. Among the objections were claims that the government had no business interfering in a private contract between a company and its workers.

So, y'know, I'm still quite pleased Obama won. Also scrapping a lot of nukes smells a bit of peace, doesn't it?
In April, President Obama told a crowd of 20,000 in Prague that the U.S. had a "moral responsibility" to take the lead in ridding the world of nuclear weapons.
 
 
Lucid Frenzy
15:21 / 18.10.09
So, y'know, I'm still quite pleased Obama won. Also scrapping a lot of nukes smells a bit of peace, doesn't it?

Sending more troops to Afghanistan and stepping up the drone bombing in Pakistan - that smells a bit of war, doesn't it?
 
 
Tsuga
17:57 / 18.10.09
Smell like... victory!

Seriously, though, I'm at a loss when it comes to the whole Pakistan/Afghanistan conundrum. I don't know how wise or safe it is to let the Taliban retake control of Afghanistan, especially when there is a movement towards doing the same in Pakistan— which would be easier then (and when many people's lives could become even more miserable, especially women's). But I don't know that any military offensive by the US could ever be effective, or even helpful. Perhaps it could, but it all seems so... intractable.
 
 
Lucid Frenzy
10:28 / 19.10.09
Isn't the notion that 'we' enlightened First World people should be trying to 'rescue' the poor huddled masses part of the problem in the first place?

What was the result the last time 'benevolent intervention' was tried in Afghanistan? The creation of the Taliban, the very group they're now trying to destroy!

This will surely seem the absurdity of NeoCon thinking when history looks back. At the very same time they were plotting to steal Iraq's oil reserves, they were able to convince themselves they were going to 'liberate' the Iraqi people! Yet even had they tried the second part alone (however unlikely), there's absolutely no reason to believe it would have turned out any better.
 
 
Tsuga
13:13 / 19.10.09
No, the whole Iraq thing was a fiasco done under false pretenses. There's not much to point the Afghan venture being any less a fiasco, though you could argue the point of the Taliban control of the country was creating a tinderbox for militant jihadists. But, I think that an aggressive miltary campaign in there is more of a match, than an extinguisher. I don't know how "benevolent" the intervention is, I believe it's considered "self-interest"; though it might not be in anyone's interest, ultimately. I don't think that just drones are going to work, nor are full-scale assaults on a porous, sparse, resilient opponent. It would be just swell if Afghanistan could have a stable working government that kept some kind of infrastructure going, educated its people, and protected the vulnerable. I don't know how that would happen.
There is a real threat though, I think, in a resurgent Taliban overtaking large parts of Pakistan and destablizing a nuclear-armed government with an already tenuous grip on power. That could really suck for most everyone.
 
 
Lucid Frenzy
16:08 / 19.10.09
No, the whole Iraq thing was a fiasco done under false pretenses.

Well, the weird thing is that isn't how the invaders saw it. This is above the level of rhetoric, NeoCon policy was in general about (what they saw as) benevolent interventionism. The lack of planning for post-invasion control, so absent as to be beyond self-parody, is surely another indication of this. They really expected a people they'd bombed for a decade to flock to them, and restructure their country along the necessary 'free market' guidelines!

As political commentator and wacko Ann Coulter commented: "We should invade their countries, kill their leaders and convert them to Christianity." They genuinely can't see that invading a country and killing some of the inhabitants might not be the best way to win their hearts and minds over to anything. They would be less scary if this wasn't true. But it is.
 
 
oryx
16:33 / 19.10.09
So far as Afghanistan goes - despite the rhetoric, the West's military presence there is, I think, almost entirely self-interested. The commitment to democracy, stability, women's rights, and all the rest of it, exists only insofar as it will provide a counterpoint to the Taliban and their instigation and training of terrorists. Before 9/11, no-one gave much of a toss about the Taliban and their particular brand of extremism. No-one did anything in real terms about their treatment of women, their destruction of historically important Bhuddist statues, their violent institution of their own peculiar brand of Sharia law. As soon as they offered Bin Laden accomodation, bingo, its war time.
 
 
Mr Tricks
17:08 / 19.10.09
I always thought it was the Taliban's refusal to allow the development of a Unocal/ConocoPhillips sponsored oil pipeline that motivated a post 9/11 bombing campaign. Apparently this project was set in motion almost immediately after Karzai's 2004 election.
 
 
Peach Pie
13:21 / 22.10.09

Oh no! This thread is still top and people who don't click it to understand the motivation with which I started it will think I'm a racist dim-wit.

Doh.
 
 
Peach Pie
12:44 / 12.11.09
I notice his rival McCain voted to continue allowing private defence contractors in Iraq to get away with rape - story here but beware it concerns sexual assault

The legislation to end the bar on legal action passed the Senate with a clear majority but 30 Republican members voted against it, including the former presidential candidate John McCain. Among the objections were claims that the government had no business interfering in a private contract between a company and its workers.

Oh God... really?
 
  
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