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No! You can't have any jelly beans!

 
 
darth daddy
23:47 / 28.08.09
In all due honesty...drinking red wine and watching "Tropic Thunder". Grew up with fathers being WWII fighter pilots, who wouldn't talk of the big war. Now an old fuck realizing that George Bush II lied about weapons of mass destruction.

We pretend our political opinions are based on facts. Facts based on what..who...where...

As a chaos magician you are left in free fall...the mythologies of WWII, Vietnam...Health Care...and what not and the logical political response is Icelandic in the extreme.

It's kind of fun...what do you think
 
 
Mistoffelees
09:18 / 29.08.09
Sounds as if US culture is detrimental to your mental and physical health.

Ever think about leaving and living somewhere else?
 
 
Quantum
10:39 / 29.08.09
Or drinking less red wine before posting?
 
 
darth daddy
13:37 / 29.08.09
I was thinking in more global terms than merely the US. Have been re-reading Joseph Campbell's work on Oriental Mythology and was really struck by his description of the origins of the Jain religion, particularly the time cycle beliefs. I imagine in that culture the "history" of time cycles would form the basis for political and religious behavior.

I am struck by the battle for the primacy of different political factions version of "history" as the determinate of appropriate political action. Classic example is the ongoing argument about the facts about British and Canadian healthcare, ie: good system for the majority of people versus bankrupt system determining whether granny lives or dies. The factual determination of this question determines the government's future behavior. Cart before the Horse.

It seems clear to me that my culture creates history in attempt to encourage a majority shared belief system. This leads to "quadanoia", questioning of all facts concerning the past. For example, we just had the anniversary for the Woodstock concert. Younger people are lead to believe that the sixties generation were all hippies...I have many friends in that generation and most of them lead very conservative lives at that time. It was only in the seventies when the "history" of the few people who were hippies caused more of my generation to emulate them.
 
 
ONLY NICE THINGS
13:19 / 31.08.09
OK, I think I get where you're coming from on this - am I right in thinking that you are struggling with the idea that there is no authoritative account of events, and that vested interests often manipulate the historical record in various ways to provide a particular flavour to their coverage? And that, by extension, as a chaos magician who uses historical events as a source of focus or power or similar, you're finding this disruptive?

I think the official line, such as there is, is probably that one is not exactly using an absolute historical event, but rather the self-generated idea of a historical event - in the same way that you are not actually enlisting Abraham Lincoln to free you from your restrictive lease, but rather the idea of Abraham Lincoln as you imagine him, or possibly some energy that resembles Abraham Lincoln, or a specific aspect of Abraham Lincoln - in the same way that one might propitiate Apollo in his specific aspect as a healer in a particular element and as the patron deity of prophesy in another.

So, if you're making some sort of magic which references the Battle of Medway, or similar, then what matters is by this argument what you think of the Battle of Medway, or a particular aspect of the Battle of Medway relevant to whatever you're doing. Whether this is true or not, or what standard of truth you'd like to apply to the whole process, I have no idea. Liminal Nation might give you some more pointers on the magical elements.

At the risk of indulging in armchair psychology, however, I don't think the magical impacts is exactly what you're looking at here - if you've been making mojo based on the undeniable presence of weapons of mass destruction in Iraq - something which I think even George Bush and co. gave up claiming a while back - I'd be interested to know how that's been working out. It seems rather that you are coming to the realisation that the world not only is not as one might imagine, but that one can never feel truly informed about the state of the world as one is living in it. That's not really a problem with being a chaos magician, exactly...
 
 
Quantum
15:53 / 31.08.09
But what about the jelly beans? Can I have some?

Disney to buy Marvel in $4bn deal

Last month, Walt Disney reported a fall in profits of more than a quarter as the downturn hit revenue at its film and theme park divisions. Net profit between April and June came in at $954m (£579m), down 26% on the $1.28bn the entertainment giant made in the same period last year.
Revenues of $8.6bn were down 7% from the $9.2bn recorded a year before.
 
 
darth daddy
00:56 / 03.09.09
First of all....Quantum Daddy...not jelly beans for you due to abject thievery of names concept. Gongrats on the babby.
 
 
darth daddy
01:01 / 03.09.09
Second of all...am abject as to how many real intellects have addressed my issue...ie: maybe history is used for political purposes...hellow? obvious....(my spelling is now influence by james joyce)....

It just scary when you realize that the fun and games you use...ie pretend i'm a big scary banker!!! actually work for the big folks...ie: Bush and Chaney...
 
 
Quantum
11:43 / 03.09.09
BushGov: Fake it 'til you make it
 
  
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