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Pictures on UK cigarette packs!

 
  

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trouble at bill
18:30 / 08.12.08
I just got a corpse! Are we supposed to collect these, and maybe swap them? Or is it a game like Magick? I'm not sure what powers my corpse has, it doesn't say, but I think he'd be fairly handy in a battle in a lumbering zombie kinda way.
 
 
Hallo, Paper Spaceboy
18:35 / 08.12.08
I keep forgetting that these have just come out in the U.K. -- Canada has had them for yonks of years. I always got a perverse enjoyment out of mouth disease ones...
 
 
Thaddeus "B." Glands
18:51 / 08.12.08
I for one am thoroughly looking forward to taking up smoking in order to play Top Trumps with them.
 
 
iamus
22:56 / 08.12.08
A friend of mine also got a corpse, which I thought, with the cool blue lighting, looked kind of glamorous. It also came in a swish, futuristic silver, side-sliding packet that looked a bit like a spaceship!
 
 
Alex's Grandma
00:07 / 09.12.08
So far, I think the zombie flick lung shots are ahead on points - You can always get your teeth fixed, right?

It's good that Malboro, anyway, are trying to see this off at the pass, by releasing limited edition, designer fag pack concepts that seem to be exempt from whatever legislation applies here.
 
 
Alex's Grandma
00:09 / 09.12.08
Gutted that I haven't had a corpse yet though - should I switch brands?
 
 
pony
03:18 / 09.12.08
I love these so much. Whenever I head up to Vancouver, I'm always tempted to get a pack just for the diseased lung or cancerous jaw or whatever. Aside from the macabre fun of them, is there evidence that they're really affective? As a non-smoking American, I can't really imagine what sort of affect it would have.
 
 
Hallo, Paper Spaceboy
14:45 / 09.12.08
I don't have any hard numbers -- or soft numbers -- on the influence of the campaign on Canadian smokers, but it doesn't seem to greatly affect anyone, as a casual observer. I don't think I've even heard a smoker comment on one in years.
 
 
lord henry strikes back
20:21 / 09.12.08
Hang on a sec...

Presumably the point of these Romero-esque images is to get people to stop smoking. Now I can see the whole 'wonder into shop, grab some crisps, wonder about fags and then get turned off by the rotting lung pics and not buy them' idea. I'm not sure that I think it will work (in fact having smoked for almost ten years I'm damn sure that on a couple of occasions I would have worn the aforementioned lungs as a hat if it would get me a puff). But now I hear that ciggies are going to have to be stocked 'out of site' of the consumer. So now you only see the pics after you've paid. Surely by that point your bridges are pretty much burnt, at least until the next pack when... oh yeah.
 
 
Mistoffelees
20:46 / 09.12.08
I at first misread that as Romeo-esque.

I don´t see why these photos should work. Don´t people buy cigarettes, because they´re addicted? Then why should they care about those pictures?
 
 
ONLY NICE THINGS
20:47 / 09.12.08
It's a bit more complicated than that.
 
 
Anna de Logardiere
21:40 / 09.12.08
In what way?
 
 
Liger Null
22:34 / 09.12.08
From what I'm reading in this thread, it looks like the gory pictures are going to increase cigarette sales.
 
 
Proinsias
22:45 / 09.12.08
I feel left out, I've bought three packs of cigs this week and all I got was a stern warning.
 
 
ONLY NICE THINGS
22:49 / 09.12.08
Ermintrude - basically, I think because addiction isn't a binary process. Lots of people don't much want to be smoking, or want to be smoking less, and for them it's not usually a matter of a blinding flash (although it can be, or it can be narrativised in that way), but, in my experience, an accretive process. For me, ceasing to smoke happened as a slow process of negotiation, realisation, changing taste and social stuation... a picture of some diseased lungs probably would not have made me quit out of hand, but the growing visibility of the health issues - including advertising - certainly helped to inform, or at least lend momentum to, the choices I was making about whether to smoke, cigarette by cigarette.
 
 
Hallo, Paper Spaceboy
01:12 / 10.12.08
Presumably the point of these Romero-esque images is to get people to stop smoking.

I'll thank you not to imply that Caesar Romero looked like a rotten lung, dahling.
 
 
Alex's Grandma
01:56 / 10.12.08
As with drunk driving thirty years ago, there seems to be a concerted attack going on against smoking in Britain at the moment. But I can't help feeling cigs aren't as bad as that.

In particular, the statistics to do with how many people die per annum as a result of smoking appear to assume that they'd have carried on indefinitely otherwise. At the risk of being a bore, this is simply not the case.

My theory is that the state would rather have you rotting away in an old folks home, which, in England, you or your family have to pay for, rather than a cancer ward, which is the NHS's responsibility.

I'm not sure if there's anything more to it than that.

Aside, perhaps, from the issue of who's really benefited from the smoking ban; supermarket off-sales have apparently rocketed since, seeing as people seem to prefer to get leathered at home, where they can smoke, and drink dirt cheap booze to their heart's content, rather than brave the harsh weather outside their local.
 
 
Proinsias
22:07 / 14.12.08
I got my first photo warning on friday, it was a picture of some nasty looking teeth which my smoking dentist friend seemed to think was scaremongering propaganda and unlikely to occur to someone smoking daily but otherwise looking after themselves.
 
 
Trebor
21:13 / 16.12.08
I've found the sperm ones get the biggest cheer.

In terms of quitting strategies; I always thought that cash would work better than patches. If the NHS gave me enough per day to afford a small snack or two, maybe an mp3 or three, I could envisage my ass getting in the appropriate gear to formulate effective exit strategies.

IMHO, polo's just don't have the same kick, and don't make you look any cooler.
 
 
iamus
23:46 / 16.12.08
I still to this day do not understand why the Government pushes an anti-smoking line rather than a pro-breathing one.

It seems eminently more sensible to me.
 
 
Evil Scientist
07:02 / 17.12.08
In terms of quitting strategies; I always thought that cash would work better than patches. If the NHS gave me enough per day to afford a small snack or two, maybe an mp3 or three, I could envisage my ass getting in the appropriate gear to formulate effective exit strategies.

You're a criminal mastermind ain't ya? If you cut your cig intake you could of course buy your own damn snacks.

You'll just have to wait until you've done broke yourself in the lungholes before being NHS funded like us drinkers do with our liver-bits.
 
 
Trebor
07:58 / 17.12.08
If you cut your cig intake you could of course buy your own damn snacks.

average sandwich sized snack approx. £3
average chocolate bar or two approx. £1
average drm free mp3 approx. £1
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Sum total £5

This is about the same as 25 grams of amberleaf, which lasts me a whole week. The above *might* distract me from smoking, but only for a single day.
Therefore; carrying on smoking is more cost effective. I get 3-5 treats a day, for a whole week, and it works out roughly the same as if you say "I'll just pop in spa/nisa/tesco..." on the way to work.

'course, it could lead to a debilitating illness later in life... but so does sugar. why isn't there health warnings about diabetes or gory photos of severely obese sugar addicts on cakes? huh? And what about cars, why doesn't everybody have to watch a short film about the violent death of a child before they get in a car?
 
 
Evil Scientist
07:59 / 17.12.08
'course, it could lead to a debilitating illness later in life... but so does sugar. why isn't there health warnings about diabetes or gory photos of severely obese sugar addicts on cakes? huh? And what about cars, why doesn't everybody have to watch a short film about the violent death of a child before they get in a car?

Karma?
 
 
Proinsias
08:02 / 17.12.08
Violent death of a pensioner
 
 
Trebor
11:17 / 17.12.08
(rot...)
I refuse to accept karma as a valid influence in life whilst george orwells grandson was a driving force behind a sposed "war on terror" that was actually an attempt to bring the resources of the middle east under western military domination. And then he became peace envoy to said region.

Karma? No, that actually implies fairness. It's more like sickening to experience, yet from a detached viewpoint, actually quite funny. Wait a minute; irony is the mother of all creation!
 
 
Evil Scientist
13:29 / 17.12.08
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Vindictive karma?
 
 
iamus
16:54 / 17.12.08
Maybe Orwell put ideas in people's heads.
 
 
iamus
16:55 / 17.12.08
Maybe he would have been better served writing about flowers and moon-magic.
 
 
ONLY NICE THINGS
22:56 / 17.12.08
Moon tiara magic.
 
 
iamus
05:03 / 18.12.08
And glittering ponies.
 
 
iamus
05:03 / 18.12.08
With diseased lungs.
 
 
iamus
05:06 / 18.12.08
 
 
iamus
05:07 / 18.12.08
...actually...


I think I just had a better idea about what to put on the side of fag packets.
 
 
iamus
05:29 / 18.12.08
...if I wanted to smoke myself to death through hyperventilation.
 
 
Olulabelle
06:44 / 18.12.08
Brian Blessed stopped me smoking. He kept shouting, "Stop smoking NOWWWW!" in an advert for Boots smoking cessation on the radio and after hearing it hundreds of times eventually one day I thought, Oh Ok then. And went to the clinic. Which not only shows you the power of advertising but also my limited willpower. And of course the persuasive talents of Brian Blessed.
 
  

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