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How has the Internet changed your reading/writing skills?

 
 
Ruobhe
22:44 / 29.09.08
Greetings, I'd like to create this thread to talk about the impact that Internet has given to reading comprehension. I'm not sure if I'm completely right, but we can agree that the internet and the advent of digital content has raised the standards to understanding a certain text, when reading becomes less of a linear task and more of a structural content. And second, from a sociological point of view, the internet has been the breeding pool of countless societies, each with their own quirks and particularities. The birth of lolmemes and chatspeak come to mind, all of them affecting in some way our way of understanding information.

I'm starting this thread in convo because I'm not entirely sure if the theme is serious enough, or if it has been touched before.

So, has anyone studied this subject before? Care to share your thoughts? Thank you for your time and I hope to hear from you.

Ruobhe Leafdancer
 
 
Proinsias
22:48 / 29.09.08
Has Haus changed your reading/writing skills might also be worth asking.
 
 
Closed for Business Time
09:40 / 30.09.08
Raised the standards? I dare say it has changed the standards, but IME a lot of people think* that reading and writing skills have declined relative to the generations that grew up without hypertext and chat chans.

*Not sure myself whether reading, comprehension and writing skills have been raised. All down to what the standard is nicht?
 
 
The Idol Rich
10:09 / 30.09.08
Not exactly relevant to the question but related I think - I've realised that, due to computers in general rather than the internet specifically, my actual handwriting skills have diminished hugely. I can touch type fairly quickly but with a pen and a piece of paper I can hardly make myself understood - I think that's a shame but hardly suprising when I think about the amount of time I spend on the two activities.
 
 
trouble at bill
12:24 / 30.09.08
Yep, me too. On that sort of note there was a UK study somewhere which claimed that texters had more dexterous thumbs than non-texters.

The only thing I'll say for now is that I suspect the 'net has increased the fragmented, Burroughs' cut-up nature of our media experience, and it has probably made us more 'multi-tasky'. I'm not too sure about the 'standards' thing because I never know whether there really are standards or just conventions as Haus (I think) says above - Shakespere couldn't spell his name consistently after all.

But IMHO this is definate Head Shop material so I'll try and get back to this thread!
 
 
Evil Scientist
12:34 / 30.09.08
Mai lolcatspeak naow bettr?
 
 
Closed for Business Time
13:10 / 30.09.08
For the record: I ain't Haus. He's now "A Haus of Minions".
 
 
The Idol Rich
13:22 / 30.09.08
The only thing I'll say for now is that I suspect the 'net has increased the fragmented, Burroughs' cut-up nature of our media experience, and it has probably made us more 'multi-tasky'.

For sure. I noticed yesterday when watching a film (that was a little slow) that my fingers were itching to pick up the pooter and start doing something else at the same time. Wish I hadn't, I guess I'll never know who Rosebud is now.
 
 
Spatula Clarke
13:34 / 30.09.08
I write far more with the internet than I would without it. I suspect the same is true of pretty much everybody - that's *everybody* - who has regular internet access. And given that your skills inevitably improve with experience, then I've got to say that I'm firmly of the opinion that anybody claiming that the internet causes standards of writing to slip is talking out of their arse and is a reactionary knobber.
 
 
trouble at bill
13:40 / 30.09.08
See what he did there?
 
 
The Idol Rich
14:15 / 30.09.08
I write far more with the internet than I would without it. I suspect the same is true of pretty much everybody - that's *everybody* - who has regular internet access.

Yeah, that's a good point I think. From when I finished my GCSEs in about 1993 I didn't really write anything much until I started having access to the internet and time to use it in the mid noughties or a little earlier. Any facility that I do have with writing pretty much has to have come from internet typing.
 
 
Ruobhe
20:38 / 30.09.08
Greetings, havong read my post again, and everyones responses, I think I need to clarify myself, and apologize for any misleading.
First, the impact of the hypertext on reading skills is a very profound one. Linear texts, like most of us know, propose a singular objective, a path to take when reading, and when structural non-linear content is introduced it raises the minimun requirements to understand a certain content.
That being said, I agree that the average reading and writing skills have diminished strongly since the advent of digital content. With the tools that a person has to plagiarize text and the amount of information available on the internet, a normal person needs only a few search criteria, a powerful search engine, and the ability to copy and paste.
Although the quantity of written text has increased because of the same tools, very little can be said for the quality. As an example, most people wouldn't advertise their comments on youtube as intellectual production, let alone intellectual property.
I'm not implying that the internet is bad, the myriad of posibilities and manifestations on the net would prove the worth of the internet in amount alone. There has been no time when we could be so accurately informed, no way of communicating so many people from so many different places, and the "few" places that give you good information are gold mines that give people endless possibilities beyond books and linear text.
Thank you for your time, and hope to hear from you soon.

Ruobhe Leafdancer
 
 
HCE
00:39 / 01.10.08
The internet has made it easier for me to buy out-of-print or obscure books from small bookshops in other cities (and countries). It's also helped me find bright people to talk to about my interests, and because these bright people are scattered around the world, it has prompted me to travel. These things help me think, and thus read, better, though only indirectly.

However, it has also exposed me to a very large number of very stupid and irritating people, to whom I find myself explaining the same things in ever-more-simplistic ways, and this practice has eroded my ability to think and express myself with any accuracy or complexity.

I think I've come out slightly ahead overall, as far as reading goes. I have recently taken up using an RSS reader and subscribe to a number of litblogs. I hope that this exposure to the ideas and reading habits of people who are pretty serious about their work will help me.
 
 
Char Aina
17:26 / 01.10.08
The internet has enabled me to do more reading for less money. It's also enabled me to do more writing for less money. One of these seems more like a good thing, but obviously they're just the same thing from different angles.

Through access to the internet I have easy access to information, but I think I would have fought to gain that access had it not been available with such ease. Having to fight for it would have made it more valuable, and I imagine I might work harder with it as a result.

Any temporary inability to search the internet makes plain how much I use it when I work, and when my laptop has no internet access I notice it's absence as one might an arm, if one usually had three.



(I shared Susan Blackmore on Temes before, in the thread about filesharing. It deals with the ascendancy of a technology based replicator. Despite the terrible name for the replicator, I think some of her thoughts might be relevant.)
 
  
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