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My webcomic "Ophelia"

 
 
mercurialblonde
19:45 / 15.07.08
I don't know how many of you will really care since I'm a relatively new poster here, but I started a webcomic that I really probably would never have done the research for without the inspiration of Barbelith.

Ophelia is my horror, magic, tarot haunted house comic. Each week is situated around a different tarot card I get from a reading, and then the elements of the story that are shaped and manifest for that week tie into the tarot card.

But you don't need to know tarot to enjoy.

Anywho, if it sounds interesting check it out, and let me know what you think. It's my first comic I've put out into the world. I got tired of waiting for an artist to do my scripts, so I built these pages as these kind of collage altars to the ideas of this story I thought would work really well in this format--and I think it came off better than one would expect.



Ophelia
 
 
mercurialblonde
19:29 / 22.07.08
The second issue is out today. The thing is themed around Artemis and the Princess of Swords Tarot Card this week. Fun fun.

Ophelia #2
 
 
clever sobriquet
11:58 / 23.07.08
It looks like a promising beginning. Kudos to you.
 
 
mercurialblonde
11:59 / 23.07.08
Thank you! I'm learning a lot as I go, so it's been a great experience so far, and the way I'm integrating it into my magical workings is making things doubly fun.
 
 
Eek! A Freek!
12:54 / 23.07.08
I'm pretty new at checking out webcomix as I'm a bit anal about the printed word/picture... Environmentally behind the times in that respect, but I like books.

I'll admit that as nicely put together as it is, I am not a fan of the style of art. It tells your story well, but to me seems a bit slap-dash. I'm sure that it most certainly isn't and that you pour a lot of work into it, but it's just the impression I get: Just not my thing.

That being said, I really enjoy the stories themselves and the way you generate the stories. I love the idea of forming episodes on interpretations of tarot cards. I know that you are relying on symbolism to tell part of the narrative, and that works well, but as a reader I rely a bit too much on the dialogue, which is OK but I feel needs a bit of work. I feel like I'm hearing snippets of dialogue you have actually heard or taken part in but it's not seen in complete context. Do you make up the dialogue or draw from your past? (I hope this isn't too personal a question...)

I hope that my being critical in no way discourages you: That's not my point...

I think that the potential of your comic is great and I hope to see longer "readings" to allow the audience to become a bit more involved and care about what's happening. I think that single card stories are a great way to cut your teeth and hone your skills, but I hope to see multi-card arcs: the best thing about tarot is how the cards subtly change upon the interaction with each other and it would be interesting to see that in a narrative form. The potential for interpreting past present and future within a storyline could be a lot of fun.

One final point: I think my browser is slow or there's a glitch because every time I turned a page, it came up blank and I had to refresh. It was annoying a bit and is yet another reason why I prefer print media. (Maybe the evolution of your stories will help me change...)
 
 
mercurialblonde
15:44 / 23.07.08
Yeah no, the dialogue is made up. I actually can write really great dialogue, but it's something where space is working against me, because dialogue for me is such a rhythm thing, and in six pages, it's hard to keep things moving, and get the dialogue to flow. But I think this will get better as the world expands. One thing that is probably very evident, is that because this is my first work--there's a lot of pressure to keep giving the goods, and the way things are set up, there hasn't been as much room for creating the setups I would in a different kind of story. But I'm hoping that will change as things go.

I think also there's some waffling on the Baron's tone, and that's due to some of the wavering between him being Baron La Croix and Baron Semedi. It may seem like a silly distinction to make, but because I couldn't find as many things to do with La Croix, I've been creating his manifestation out of Semedi, and while I think that's pretty sound, I think it does cause some wavering, because they are two very different gods, in my opinion. La Croix is much more cultured and refined, and I've been a little frustrated in my inability to fully reflect that in the art--and then Semedi is much more crude and profane.

As far as the tarot, the episodes are building on each other in a way, but you bring up a good point in terms of doing a series of cards for an arc. But part of this for me is also mapping the cards for myself, and bonding them to these stories, so that in the future, when I see the Ten of Disks card, I'll have an idea of what that card means for me, which will make it easier to read the cards without thinking about them. But yeah, that is a really good idea, and something I might play with more as I go. Once I get enough of a story going, I'd really like to start playing with the intertexuality of the images and cards. Like building out the earth cards in relation to each other in some way that also fits with the story.

And you have to remember the tarot is just a part of the process, another key part is the infomancy part, in how I compile the images I want. I take that pretty seriously, and really do sort of follow the words, while choosing them wisely. I like to be open to the inspiration of the random things that might get kicked back at me by the net when I say this word versus that word. There's a dialouge there that is endlessly fascinating to me. It's like collaborating with the whole world all at once. I also tend to be drawn to themes and ideas that are related to deities I've worked with in the past on some level, and I'm not afraid to be guided by that.

As for the art, I completely understand, and I hope as I improve your enjoyment of the art increases too. It's something I'm learning on the fly as well, and some pages I get what I want to happen with the page, other pages less so. But they're starting to get more consistent as I figure out how to use these tools a little better. Initially when I did this the push was that I was tired of waiting to get an artist to work with for a book, and I just wanted to show what I can do, even if my means are very limited in that department. But after the first page and cover, I've decided I really like the look. I think it's the perfect style for what I'm trying to do, but it just needs to get cleaner and more consistent, and in some places maybe even more daring. So I know I'm not there yet, I'm excited about the path I'm taking though.

Bleaugh. I could ramble about this stuff all day. I actually don't really have a problem with the criticism. Especially when it's so well reasoned.

I especially welcome it from Barbelith, because this book is really a testament to a lot of things and ideas that this site helped point me toward. It's not a stretch to say without the Temple and all of the great amazing posters in it, this book would not exist as such.

Sorry about the slow browser bit. I haven't personally had any problems, but I'll ask around and see if there's anything I can do. It might just be one of the pitfalls of using a free service. But I hope not. Initially it was going to be over at wordpress, but my friend who was going to host it on his database, had some permissions issues.
 
 
Eek! A Freek!
16:59 / 23.07.08
What a great idea, using your comic to become intimate with your cards! I love it! I'm glad you are also willing to share...

Placing the conversation with a being who a cross between La Croix & Samedi was interesting (Now that you explained it), and my take is that you have associated the card with something between guilt and remorse. Does Ophelia believe that she has gotten off easily? I assume that she broke her lover's heart or she's pissed that she allowed her own to get broken. It's interesting that you summon La Croix and have Samedi sneak in: She wants revenge on herself (Punishment?) but when it arrives, she feels she needs something more "crude and profane"...? Or perhaps Ghede sends the Samedi aspect to her as a shock to her reality; a reminder that revenge and/or punishment is unnecessary and/or downright silly.

(Sorry... I tend to get right in there and analyze the hell out of things, putting myself into it and drawing my own conclusions. If I'm way off base or way out of line let me know...)

Do you glean meaning from the cards yourself (Intuition) or from another source (eg. Books)? (I'm just trying to get a small understanding of the process of creation...)

I picked up my first Thoth set recently, the jumbo sized, and I have to admit that I've been intimidated by them. I also have Swiss 1JJ (My first - Not too comfortable...) The Rider-Waite (So familiar, so friendly) and the Milo Manara (Pure asthetic fun). I think I should have picked up the regular sized Thoth in retrospect as they feel a bit awkward. In all honesty, I don't play enough with them. It's great to see someone else's impressions. Makes me want to pick them up as soon as I get home and really search them with my feelings, get a visceral intimacy. I have refered to the small book that came with them, and that's been handy, but I've been afraid to jump into them...

While your art style is a bit more challenging for me personally (the blurry, vague background images have a dream-like-quality which I suppose is a bit disconcerting, like being on a perpetual verge) when I think of it, I also do find it reminds me of several excellent "Understanding..." and "...For Beginners" books published by Readers & Writers Workshops.

I look forward to episode 3.
 
 
mercurialblonde
00:41 / 24.07.08
Ha. Her motivations are not what they appear, and that's something that is addressed in issue three more, but fully revealed in the fourth issue. The reason I wanted to use La Croix, is because he WOULD think she was being silly, and not be that interested in a lot of her motivations. I won't say more because I don't want to spoil things.

As far as how I get the meaning from the cards, as I said, I'm using this as a learning tool, so I will consult sources on the cards to see what people are saying about it, and then I'll see what reasonates with me about the card, and what I find to be it's central meaningings for me. It's an interesting question to ask, because in the next issue which is the ten of disks, I think my interpretation of the card is a little off center of what a lot of sources sort of say--but I also think my reading of it was very profound for me, there were lots of little jokes in the card for me about how I was using it, which is something I love about the Thoth deck, it's so slippery, and it has a very grim sense of humor. But I have that, but the next issue also quotes Crowley directly in a few places(which is weird because I'm not a huge Crowley fan), and I think that happens as a counterweight to my interpretation to keep things balanced but still driving to the same point. Issue three tells two stories, but I don't think that's overtly apparent until the last page few pages. But so yeah, it's kind of a mix, but the end decisions are always tied into the pull I feel from the actual card. And when I'm doing the reading, I'm doing it as a reading for the book itself, so in addition to revealing diffrent pieces of the card, it also tells me more about the story, which I find really interesting, because obviously the story is on some hyper-conscious level for me, but the cards allow for these really interesting focuses and turns to the story, which so far have kept me on my toes. Every time I think I know exactly what's next in the story, the cards throw me a serious curveball, but in the end, it fits together in a really fantastic way, that I'm not sure it would if I were trying to do this story without that element. I mean I think it would still be a good enough story, but for me the excitement comes very much from this dialogue between the cards, the net, and myself.
 
 
pony
06:09 / 24.07.08
the font made me want to tear the eyes out of my skull.

i feel bad responding in such a semi-trivial manner, but it seemed promising but the letters just couldn't allow me to let down my guard and give it a chance.

i wanted to like this. i applaud the effort. i will check in to further issues in hopes of a font-change.
 
 
mercurialblonde
09:41 / 24.07.08
Did you read both issues or just the first one? I changed the font in the second one, so I'm wondering if the font was still a problem or not. A lot of people had liked the new font a lot better.

It's something I'm definitely working to address, so if you were having problems with the new font too, I'd be interested to know. Worst comes to worst, I'll just put the whole thing in times new roman and be done with it
 
 
mercurialblonde
10:31 / 29.07.08
Ophelia #3-OUT TODAY!

The new issue!

Things are getting more slavic now. Building up to the intro of the second main character in #4, which is a slavic demon that has been popping up all through my life, and lately in a lot of my writing.

I'd also be interested to hear what other people's take is on the wealth card in the tarot(even if it's belatedly). And where I might have missed the mark for you, if I did. Since half of this project is about the cards.
 
 
mercurialblonde
11:41 / 29.07.08
Better link:Ophelia #3-Direct Link
 
  
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