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Selling ebooks

 
 
grant
15:55 / 01.07.08
I has a friend who has a book what he wrote and (believe it or not) a few people who want to read this book. (He's a musician with albums and fans and stuff.)

He'd like to stick the novel online and charge some kind of minimal fee for people to read the thing. I am to help him do this thing.

I'm mulling over the best ways to put a novel up for sale online.

It seems like there are a couple models:

* The Porn Model: Members Only Page! Credit Cards Now!
This seems like a hassle to install, but might be easier than I think.

* The Stephen King/In Rainbows Model: You PayPal the system, the system emails you a download link. Or the whole novel as a file. Or something.

* Print on demand: The author sends book to online publisher, then advertises that book on his site. You go buy the thing there, they deal with the money and processing and all that.

How do these work? What's best for someone not terribly php savvy but capable of doing a few monkey-style tweaks?

Am I overlooking something more efficient?
 
 
Hallo, Paper Spaceboy
16:32 / 01.07.08
I would be inclined to suggest -- and keeping in mind that I'm still in the midst of thinking of doing something similar because I want to look at new media publishing technologies and maybe doing ebooks myself -- of including some regularly-changed content on the site which is free, creative commons stuff -- short stories or some excerpts to whet the tastebuds -- and then maybe offering two options, the Paypal/file equivalent or the Lulu.com "print on demand" option.

Free content is important because it encourages people to involve themselves with the ebook; rarely in a bookstore will I buy a book without at least looking at the first page at the bare minimum. Attaching it to a blog with regularly updated ficlets and the like would also work to make the site dynamic.

The PayPal payment that yields a PDF or similar is beneficial for those who want to discourage paper use.

The print-on-demand option appeals to those who want a physical object.

Would such a combination be feasible for your friend? Would it be too complicated? It covers the bases and allows for particular consumer behaviours (sampling before buying, for example). It's the one I've been thinking of using myself.
 
 
grant
20:12 / 01.07.08
Well, this would be incorporated into his existing site; like I said, he's a musician with fans and stuff. Free excerpts would probably be good, though.

I'm wondering what the best way is to set up a PayPal in->Literature out system. I mean, the step-by-step stuff. How does that work?
 
 
_pin
20:42 / 07.07.08
Just to say; I'm pretty sure Lulu.com offers paid-for downloads as well as POD services, and with Paypal support.

I don't think you're left with any choice but putting a link on your page to Lulu, though. Which now that I think about it, is kind of stupid, no? Can they really be hoping to build a brand identity around their ugly website and literally zero quality control?
 
 
Alex's Grandma
00:47 / 08.07.08
He'd like to stick the novel online and charge some kind of minimal fee for people to read the thing.

Why does your pal feel that way?

Is he an anti-capitalist, or is he simply unprepared to face up to the possibility that his book is a total waste of time, which no conventional publisher would be prepared to take on board, even notionally?

To be clear about this, Grant; no one in their right mind is going to lay down even the price of a coke for the witterings of an unproved artist, on-line.

Tell your friend he has to finish his book, and then take his lumps, like everyone else has to.

I don't mean to sound like Alf Garnett, but, unless one delivers at least twenty thousand words, plus detailed synopsis, and charming covering letter, before one's been asked to, then one's literary career is definitely bound to fail, as opposed to almost certainly.
 
 
grant
16:32 / 08.07.08
Well, he's not exactly *unproved* - he's just not primarily a novelist and has not much interest in pursuing a literary career. Too busy touring and promoting albums and such. The novel is just an extra for interested fans.
 
 
A fall of geckos
20:52 / 08.07.08
"To be clear about this, Grant; no one in their right mind is going to lay down even the price of a coke for the witterings of an unproved artist, on-line."

I don't think this is strictly true. There are a number of writers who've published only online, and made a living out of it, both in the webcomic area, and in modular fiction (long form fiction in daily chapters).

They may not make a very good living, but then the pay rate for the average author isn't high - most authors don't write as their primary job. An example of a full time webcomic author is RK Milholland (Something Positive). I don't have any non-comic writers bookmarked, but there are several, and if you want I'm sure I can google-up a couple.
 
 
A fall of geckos
21:00 / 08.07.08
Actually, the banner ad on the right hand side of Something Positive currently points to an ongoing fantasy story - Tales of Mu - by an author called Alexandra Erin. From a quick look around the site, it looks like they're living off the earnings from the story. I've no idea if the story's any good, but it suggests that there is a market out there for online fiction from first time authors.
 
  
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