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Bananas, blight, and what we're going to do about our food.

 
 
grant
17:34 / 02.06.08
So soon, we'll be out of bananas. The Cavendish - the variety grown in plantations around the world - is succumbing to the same fungus that wiped out the prior most-popular banana, the Gros Michel.

The Cavendish was adopted at the last minute by the big banana companies - Chiquita and Dole - because it was resistant to that blight, a fungus known as Panama disease. For the past fifty years, all has been quiet in the banana world. Until now.

anama disease - or Fusarium wilt of banana - is back, and the Cavendish does not appear to be safe from this new strain, which appeared two decades ago in Malaysia, spread slowly at first, but is now moving at a geometrically quicker pace. There is no cure, and nearly every banana scientist says that though Panama disease has yet to hit the banana crops of Latin America, which feed our hemisphere, the question is not if this will happen, but when. Even worse, the malady has the potential to spread to dozens of other banana varieties, including African bananas, the primary source of nutrition for millions of people.



The author of that piece (and one of two new books on bananas) recommends genetically modified fruit as the answer, but admits nobody's going to want to buy it because it's been engineered.

So what's going to happen with bananas? And what's going to happen when it's tomatoes or corn or wheat or rice succumbing to blight?
 
 
Eek! A Freek!
18:23 / 02.06.08
For the locals who depend on them this is absolutely horrible. For us way in the north, maybe it's not a bad thing. It should force the growers to scale back.
It's bugged me for a while that we can pay 0.29$/lb of bananas here in Canada. That supposedly absorbs the shipping costs, retail markup, etc.... That feels wrong. How can someone grow bananas, pay harvesting labour, land taxes, shipping (With today's oil prices!) markup, more shipping to distribution centres, more markup, more shipping to stores, another markup and they're still 0.29$/lb...?!?
I love bananas, but I am more and more in favour of trying to eat local. Maybe there wouldn't be a blight if the plantations weren't trying to produce so much for export. All the chemicals used for growing them, all potential contaminations from buyers (Those visiting the plantations to pick their crops and special order...) all the over production... Can't be good.
The result will end in newer stronger anti-fungal/viral sprays, genetic mods, etc. That will result in a more potent fungus and or virus.
Yup... Eat local whenever possible... May not help the bananas right away, but in the long run it may help.
 
 
grant
19:28 / 02.06.08
It is interesting that the threat from the disease isn't so much its virulence as that it *travels well*, at least from that article's brief description. Ships in cargo containers from port to port....

Something similar happened with coconut palms when I was growing up. They all died here in Florida. Now, they've been replaced by squat little Malay palms. Still make coconuts, but they're much less like Dr. Seuss creations.

I'm not sure if there's a moral to be drawn there.
 
 
Eek! A Freek!
12:50 / 03.06.08
I've been hearing many stories such as This

Now I know I tend towards conspiracy, but do you think that it's possible that banana crops are possibly being infected intentionally to artificially drive up the prices, offsetting production costs and driving up profits? Not like this type of thing has never been done before. Risky, but if they had a "cure" in reserve...

Just a thought that makes me go "Hmmmmmm...."
(Damn you Arsenio!)
 
 
Evil Scientist
13:56 / 03.06.08
Not like this type of thing has never been done before.

Such as?

As far as I can see the drawbacks of unleashing Panama on the world banana markets don't actually provide any specific banana seller with any kind of edge. In the meantime the disease is destroying the staple food crop of a vast number of people who live in the areas that produce the bananas that get sold in the first place.

I'm all for outlandish conspiracy theories but wild speculation with no basis beyond basic paranoia helps no-one.

What is interesting about this situation is that bananas are actually pretty good candidates for genetic engineering. Being sterile and seedless there is less of a risk of engineered genes escaping into the wild. I understand the lab-built Panama-resistant strains currently lack flavour and don't ripen well.
 
 
Eek! A Freek!
15:04 / 03.06.08
(prev. Evil Science Holiday)
16:56 / 03.06.08
Not like this type of thing has never been done before.

Such as?


Off the top of my head I'm thinking of Enron engineering rolling blackouts in California in 2000-2001 to drive up energy prices.

Granted, creating an artificial shortage of electricity is different than poisoning crops to do the same for food, but let me dig around for some examples. I'm sure I remember reading about a country that let a disease run rampant while they trickled out medicine so they could charge insanely high prices...

I agree that rampant conspiracy is not productive, but I'm afraid that I tend to look at the news from skewered angles: I would hope to hell that my ideas (Not beliefs) are totally wrong, but the sceptic in me refuses to take these things at face value. I'm just bringing up the possibility.

Which does nothing to shed light on the problem at hand, I realise.

I do stand by my idea that cheap bananas here in the north creates a higher demand which has a terrible impact on the environment.

As to the threads core question about diversity: I have a very rudimentary knowledge of farming, but I know that crop rotation plays a large role in healthy soil. If the industrialized, single-variety farms depend on chemical nutrient suppliments for healthy soil, maybe that can be one of the reasons these crops are so succeptable to these diseases... Maybe too many corners are being cut... BSE spread as a result of industrial farmers cheaping out and feeding a vegetarian animals meat and bone meal, maybe we could be looking at an analogous situation: The industrialization of mega-crops are breeding genetic weakness. Enter a foreign pathogen and it has no way of dealing with it because it has been "Taught" that it does not need to compete to survive as it is not accustomed to a diverse environment.
 
 
Saturn's nod
15:33 / 03.06.08
Genetic diversity is hugely effective at cutting infection, particularly by fungal diseases. If crops aren't monoclonal it's much harder for fungal diseases to take a large toll on the crop. Bananas are an example of a crop that's vegetatively propagated, so they are at a disadvantage to begin with.

My google-fu is failing me right now as far as finding the paper, but I remember citing something in one of my undergraduate plant pathology essays - possibly from PLoS Biology? - which showed that a traditional planting method where 6 rice cultivars are interspersed cut infection rates of rice blast fungus by over 90%.

Genetic diversity is not popular in the agribusiness world - it leads to pesky variations in height and peak ripeness, which means you need pesky human beings to handle the crop rather than ever-larger machines. But genetic diversity to cut fungal infection rates is a beautiful side effect of the garden-planet approach to feeding the world - garden scale cultivation is not only very efficient for crop production, it's also ideal for maintaining and increasing the genetic diversity of food crops.
 
 
Evil Scientist
16:24 / 03.06.08
I'm sure I remember reading about a country that let a disease run rampant while they trickled out medicine so they could charge insanely high prices...

Well if you could dig up something about that it'd help.

Bananas are a pretty unique area of agriculture. The banana cultivar of choice eaten a few generations ago was made extinct by Panama and, as has been mentioned, Cavendish was selected as it's replacement due to it's resistance to the strain of Panama that was prevelant at the time. This new strain seems to be able to get past whatever Cavendish had that protected it.

A lot of the work on GM bananas is in trying to find ways to increase their genetic diversity.

If the industrialized, single-variety farms depend on chemical nutrient suppliments for healthy soil, maybe that can be one of the reasons these crops are so succeptable to these diseases...

Well it attacks the small-scale growers just as badly so it doesn't seem to be due to depletion of soil quality due to use of chemical nutrients unless everyone is using them.

Current treatment practises for infected crops taken from an article on bioversity.org:

Banana growers so far have few alternatives to a cumbersome ‘scorched earth’ policy in which infected plants are uprooted and the residues burned on the spot—often with the addition of half a tonne or more of rice hulls to increase the temperature sufficiently to kill the pathogen in the soil. And even this onerous procedure is not always effective. Often growers have no choice but to abandon an infected piece of land.

However...

Australian and Indonesian scientists have already been working together to look at alternatives, including biological control agents that can attack or compete with the fusarium pathogen in the soil. The project will allow a wider range of options to be tested on farmers’ fields and lessons to be drawn for how to manage the disease wherever it occurs. One option will be to try resistant somaclonal variants developed in Taiwan. The various local cultivars in the collections of ITFRI will also be evaluated for their resistance to the various VCGs found in Indonesia.

Finding something that can out-compete fusarium might be the way forward, assuming it doesn't just make the situation worse.
 
 
nyarlathotep's shoe horn
03:05 / 11.06.08
to quote Ghost in the Shell "It's simple. Overspecialise and you breed in weakness. It's slow death."

monocrops are great on paper, but not so effective in nature. Once you get a richly biodiverse environment, the majority of the interrelationships tend to the mutualist-symbiotic, whereas disease counts among the parasitic. A monocrop requires constant treatment with toxins and fetilizers because it does not have any other plants to provide the protection and nutrients it would normally have.

Older farming techniques would see a farmer growing their cultivar, but leaving wild plants nearby to help bring in new genetic variations that may provide a particular strain with more robust qualities.

As for travel, much of the commercial fruit & veges we buy from far away are bred to withstand the rigors & even ripen during travel. Heirloom varieties are not, and as such aren't particularly commuter friendly.

Local agriculture is the way that we'll resolve this - due to the fuel crisis of the moment, the global trade in agriculture, rising food prices, and unequal distribution. The big step is for industrialised city-dwellers to start getting rid of unnecessary infrastructure to replace it with agricultural facilities. Like the vertical farm.

The industrialisation of our food has become the norm only in the last half of the last century. Before then, the exotic fruit (like dragon fruit) and processed foods (like corn flakes) didn't yet exist. People made it themselves. This has been one of the biggest travesties in global history (after locking up the food to begin with, and kicking people off the commons), and our food has been taken out of our hands and kept by people who's interest is in profit, not building a better banana.

I've been growing seeds from the foods I've been eating, in hopes of having fruit trees in a decade or so. I don't know what the world is going to look like by then, but hell, I'll have an orchard waiting to put down its roots, and maybe someone in the city will be interested.

in some locations (British Columbia's Oakanagan Valley), growers have moved away from growing edible fruit to grow wine-grapes, because they are more profitable. In another case (sorry, it's anecdotal), apple trees were cut down, because apples could be bought more cheaply from China than grown locally.

something about this scheme is just plain broken.

I love fruit, but have come to accept that a pineapple in Canada in Winter is just wrong. If I want the luxury of such an item, I should either have to travel to wherever it's from (under my own power), or do without. Paying $5 for a pineapple in Canada in Winter does not at all reflect the cost of the thing.

sorry for the rambling post - I've been thinking about this issue for some time, and don't have it cohered into a succinct post yet.
 
 
Triplets
01:17 / 14.06.08
I'm sure I remember reading about a country that let a disease run rampant while they trickled out medicine so they could charge insanely high prices...

Still waiting on those sources, freektemple.
 
 
Eek! A Freek!
14:57 / 17.06.08
I'm afraid I'll have to recant: I've been searching and searching through news and human rights sources for examples but I'm coming up with nothing. The closest I've hit is pharmaceuticals engaging in profiteering rackets in the unregulated US market, but that doesn't exactly illustrate my point. There is a chance that I read about an isolated case of a warlord or junta doing this or, in a more likely case, I read a fictionalized account and confused it as happening in a real world scenario. Either way I must bow my head in shame and take back my arguement.

Sorry about that, I'll make more of an effort to research my thoughts before posting and try stop using "thinksay" as a source.
 
  
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