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Rage
05:44 / 27.05.08
Give me your brutal honesty about how you were doing this in high school etc.

Experiment Haywire
 
 
Alex's Grandma
11:30 / 27.05.08
I liked 'Sociopathic', but maybe it could be a bit shorter? I feel as if your style might work better in a brief, pop song format. Two or three minutes about wanting to destroy yourself, like that.

Well done though; it's basically pretty good stuff.
 
 
Shrug
13:31 / 27.05.08
I think I'd enjoy this live. It reminded me of how much I miss ATR as opposed to Alec Empire solo efforts.
Cheers, Rage.
 
 
Rage
15:15 / 27.05.08
Thanks Shrug! The DHR movement has been a big influence on me.


Alex's Grandma: Interesting feedback... curious about the self destruction part since that isn't one of them themes in my music. Is it that I portray a "dark" image, the feeling you get, etc.
 
 
Char Aina
15:35 / 27.05.08
Added you on myspace.
 
 
Alex's Grandma
15:44 / 27.05.08
Well it sounds, not in a bad way, as if while you were singing you wanted to murder the world. I was reminded, while listening to your not-bad-at-all tunes, of Nine Inch Nails, Big Black and The Swans. Those guys were always all about a certain view of society.
 
 
Rage
19:30 / 27.05.08
I really love the Swans and of course I grew up with NIN but I try not to have *self* destructive messages in my music. Destroying the closed minded society we live in today though? Hell yeah.
 
 
Char Aina
19:34 / 27.05.08
How are you planning on destroying the society we live in? Or are you just kinda hoping it'll happen? Are you doing anything to hasten it along?
 
 
Rage
20:21 / 27.05.08
Well if you listen to "Decapitation" it's about rising up and fighting against the current regime... which I used to do through protests yet I now find to be more effective to do through music. Especially since I'm making punk electronic as opposed to punk rock and the majority of people into electrnoic music aren't very political these days.

Obviously I'm not gonna get the senate to reinvent themselves but if I can get young people to wake up and realize change is needed that is heading in the right direction.
 
 
Char Aina
21:46 / 27.05.08
So less destroying society, more commenting on your dissatisfaction with it's current form through the device of talking about it's destruction?

I'm always curious when folk talk of rising up whether they are actually desirous of bloody insurrection. Bloody insurrection (and other forms of physical rebellion) certainly sounds like a good and romantic way to get rid of order, but it does also seem like a great way to make sure only the assholes survive.

I'd be interested to hear what you think of the label I co-run. Do you run the EH myspace yourself? If I say things there, will you read them?
 
 
Char Aina
21:54 / 27.05.08
the majority of people into electronic music aren't very political these days.

Another thought occurs...
I quite like industrial stuff myself, but have ever considered making more accesible music to share your message?
If your aim is to reach the people as yet unpoliticised it seems to me it would make more sense to make house or techno, or maybe even Timbaland style hip-hop or RnB.
 
 
STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK
00:34 / 28.05.08
By that logic doing it through music at all would be foolish. It would make more sense doing it through sports sponsorship, or sitcoms, or blockbuster movies. You know. Something where a LOT of people would care about it.

I don't see the problem with trying to reach out to a certain demographic, just because there are other demographics that are bigger.
 
 
Char Aina
02:34 / 28.05.08
I thought it seemed odd to say that electronica is under-politicised, and then to rectify that by going political in probably the most politicised area of the genre.

I wouldn't have said the same thing if rage had made politicised 8-bit, because 8-bit isn't really known for being like that.

I think it's preaching to the converted almost as much as punk rock often is.
 
 
Rage
04:54 / 28.05.08
Skinny Puppy was political. Consolidated were political. This is 2008 and the majority of the dark electro world is full of apathetic types who only want to be seen at clubs. Not to mention the major bigotry in the powernoise scene which is "the hot new shit" right now and full of right wing assholes.

I would like to reach more people than the tiny ghetto of industrial (especially since the term meant something a lot more creative in the 80's not to mention financial losses) but it doesn't happen overnight and when I have built something in this tiny litte world I can't just switch places overnight.

My fixaction with the apolcalypse and dystopia stuck me into a little corner and I actually wouldn't mind moving to different places one bit.
 
 
Rage
02:03 / 31.05.08
Sorry Life Critic... I missed your question about the EH myspace. Yes I do run it and I would be very interested in talking to you about your label, activism, and music in general. Feel free to hit me up any time.
 
 
Alex's Grandma
18:52 / 06.06.08
Consolidated were a disaster area though, surely?

White, male, liberal guilt not put through nearly enough of a psychic torture session.

Anyway, that's their problem, forgotten men of yesterday, such as they are.

Today, now, I'm concerned about your image, Rage. The music's fine, no problems there, but perhaps if you grew your hair a little longer, and wore more, but also paradoxically less, leather, then maybe you'd be able to get your message across in a more declarative fashion?

You're a talented artiste, Rage, but you need to become more of a somebody that sixteen year old boys would 'cry themselves to sleep about', you know? It's just the way the world is.
 
 
Rage
10:23 / 09.06.08
How do you know what Consolidated went through in teh aether? White liberals have the highest per capita rate of mental illness.

My image is very anti-sexy-to-sell-music but I do have some other pictures that I use. Maybe they will make me super rich because making this sort of music is a way to get rich and all. Haha.

If I grow my hair out it's gigantic.
 
 
ONLY NICE THINGS
10:53 / 09.06.08
It feels like Jesus Jones were a huge influence, both musically and aesthetically...
 
 
Seth
22:58 / 09.06.08
It feels like Jesus Jones were a huge influence, both musically and aesthetically...

A life to call our own, that is ours alone, is as hard as hell to come by these days... is time too fast for us to grasp something of our own?
 
 
Seth
23:05 / 09.06.08
The woman on the Rage-io talks about revolution when it's already passed her by...

Sorry. That was tenuous innit.
 
 
Rage
03:29 / 10.06.08
As long as I am still loved here!
 
 
Alex's Grandma
04:54 / 11.06.08
It feels like Jesus Jones were a huge influence, both musically and aesthetically

Did you think?

I had a sense of them too - also the Eurythmics, Miles Davis and the Happy Mondays, in the later, hip-hop, years.
 
 
Alex's Grandma
04:58 / 11.06.08
Maybe you need to re-design your basslines, Rage?!
 
  
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