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DC's Countdown as an Existentialist Narrative?

 
 
garyancheta
18:07 / 26.04.08
Could Countdown be seen as the longest-running existentialist comic series? Outside of Vertigo stuff, it feels like Countdown could be seen as this long journey of existentialism for these characters as they travel through the DCUniverse.

Piper and Trickster = Waiting for Godot and the Stranger:
- Piper/Trickster are waiting around and not accomplishing anything, but feeling like they're responsible but not knowing what to do with that responsibility. Also, you have the Stranger, where the main protagonist ends up shooing and killing someone "because of the sun."

Jimmy Olsen = Kafka's Metamorphosis
- Jimmy Olsen's Metamorphosis is similar to Gregor's metamorphosis in which he becomes monstrous and no one believes him. It also might explain Jimmy's relationship to the "bug."

Holly Robinson = Jack Keroac's "On the Road"
- Holly goes "on the road" and ends up meeting a Neal Cassidy-like character (Harley Quinn) and ends up getting into weird stuff before coming back home to New York.

Ray Palmer = Camus' The Myth of Sisyphus or Kafka's Notes from th Underground
- The Myth of Sisyphus is the Atom's fight against the overwhelming futility of the virus. Notes from the Underground is the Atom's struggle with identity.

Jason Todd = Satre's Nausea
- Jason Todd is the main character in Nausea, where he cannot stand the world or the people in that world. Nor, even when he tries to relate, he cannot relate to Donna Troy (his ex-crush) or the Batman in that alternative world (his comrade who he accepts for a little bit, but then goes back and feels stupid for giving in...like the main character in Nausea).

Challengers of Beyond = Sartre's "No Exit"
- Four characters who are put in the same room as a reason for punishment (like the Monitors attacking and punishing the characters) and they can't stand eachother. Hell is other people...

Mary Marvel = Joseph Conrad's Heart of Darkness
- Mary goes into the heart of darkness with the power, and meets Kurtz (Darksied), where she is remarkably changed and rejects both society and civilization.

The Monitors = Foucault's Discipline and Punish or Kafka's The Trial
- Foucault's Discipline and Punishment is all about Monitoring and "Who Monitors the Monitors" and Kafka's "The Trial", where the main character is accused for something that is unknown to that person, but known to those that judge.

The Monarch = Kafka's Crime and Punishment
- After falling ill (Captain Atom going crazy), he becomes paranoid and ends up becoming a Napoleon Bonoparte who is above the law. His sidekick could be seen as the Sonya character, who gives the main character the power as the spiritual and religious guide.

Just throwing it out there. Anyone else see the similarity between Countdown and existentialism?
 
 
simulated stereo
22:26 / 26.04.08
Personally I'm up for any interpretation that could make it more interesting, although I did enjoy the Piper/Tricker storyline. Your take on it might be giving Dini a little more credit than he deserves.
 
 
garyancheta
05:33 / 27.04.08
While I understand that tact, I'm not really giving Dini anything. I'm just curious about how something can be read, not necessarily the author's intent or ability.

- l.k.
 
 
PatrickMM
16:51 / 27.04.08
It sounds cool, and you're making me want to read the series. However, everything else I've read says it's pretty awful. Is it awful in the sense that it's intellectually vapid, but entertaining, or is it just all around bad? Or is the world wrong and it's actually decent?
 
 
Spaniel
17:05 / 27.04.08
It's awful in the sense of it being awful.
 
 
Aha! I am Klarion
19:29 / 27.04.08
No I don't see the similarities. The only similarities I see are to what you have been reading this month.
 
 
Hallo, Paper Spaceboy
19:34 / 27.04.08
It's awful and ugly. Reading even a few early pieces of it did not burn my soul way, but it was like being powdered -- like pieces of being were becomnig granulated and barren from the experience.
 
 
garyancheta
21:26 / 27.04.08
It wasn't as awful as people make it out to be. The main problem of the entire storyline is that it centers around other books, rather than centering around its own narrative. It was a good experiment with tying books as a spine to other books, but if you read it sequentially, it reads weirder than you would think.

I just read through the whole thing today, and it really reads like a Philip K Dick novel, in an odd sort of way. If you disregard everything else that is happening around it (like all the other titles that surround it), it reads like this really odd existentialist science fiction story.

Now if you haven't read it, I would say just wait for it to go down in price at your local comic shop or just download it. But if you have read it through it all, take a look again through the lens of existentialist dread and it works out pretty well as this long-form treatise on good and bad faith and existence preceding essence.

It isn't that good of a story, but it is interesting to look at stories in new ways rather than just going back and forth and saying "this sucks" or "this is awesome."

- l.k.
 
 
The Natural Way
09:12 / 28.04.08
Tru Fax

But you might not want to spend any money on it. I had to watch Desperately Seeking Susan for my film degree, but I'd never watch it again.
 
  
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