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Getting Rid of Heart Break through sigil

 
 
Dexter Graves
12:05 / 24.04.08
I'm a total emotional mess and I'm not thinking rationally, at all. One plus one equals negative five, right now, and I can't seem to perceive what two is, anymore. Anyone have any ideas ideas on forming a sigil to get rid of heartbreak?

In terms of forming my statement of intent can't decide what to do. "I want this hearbreak to go away" seems a little too vauge. I'm also mulling, "I want to stop feeling emotions until I've gotten past the heartbreak I just experienced." "I want to attract a new romance to make me forget about the failed one." "I want to make her life as miserable as mine."

AGGGGHHH! I hate the way my mind works when I'm dealing with this shit. I don't want to turn into a nihilist. Sorry, to pollute the forum with my own miserable baggage or trite problems. I'm in a very vulnerable place, right now. But I became a chaos magician to get results. Right now, I desperately need some...
 
 
Less searchable M0rd4nt
12:38 / 24.04.08
Hey Dexter,

First of all I'm sorry to hear you're going through such a rough time. Kudos to you for realising that magic can be a productive tool for dealing with painful and difficult life situations.

But I'm not at all sure that a simple sigil working is going to be much help in this instance. Based on my experience workings like this seem to be great for certain snappy, easily-articulated needs, like "I will get a job" (as long as you're not too fussed what job) and so on.

When the situation is a sophisticated emotional process, though, I don't see sigils as being necessarily the best way forward.

So you've just been through this really painful breakup. You're feeling a ton of different emotions--you're sad, you're hurt, and you're evidently very angry with your ex. I don't think making her life worse is a very good use of your energy--for one thing, you don't have the greatest perspective right now, and a what seems like a wholly-justified curse might come to look petty and unfair later on when you're more yourself again. Best to leave her out of it and focus on what would help you get better.

Next: the "new romance" spell doesn't seem so wise either. In your current distressed state you're apt to be less than cautious about getting into a new relationship with someone; you could be setting yourself, and your new flame, up for further heartache down the line.

Maybe you need a different approach. Firstly, some people find some kind of grave-dressing activity useful, so maybe a ritual to mourn the end of your romance and lay it to rest would help? Take or create some image or item that symbolises the relationship for you, and have a "funeral" for it.

Secondly, it's easier to recover from situations like this if you have something positive going on in your life. Committing yourself to something too demanding when you're still fragile is not a good idea, but maybe taking up some simple and undemanding practice, with a veiw to maintaining it for a finite period of time at first, might help you? If you like drawing, you could aim to create one small image every day. If you like to write, you could craft a couple dozen words of prose or a few lines of poetry every day. If you're more physical, you could aim to walk for half-an-hour, perhaps exploring bits of your town you don't normally go to. Any of these could easily become a magical act, even the nucleus for a long-term part of your practice.

Anyhow, I hope this has been of some help and that you're on the mend soon.
 
 
Quantum
12:53 / 24.04.08
Good advice from Mordant, I would suggest trying out some healing magic of one flavour or another. Any sort of meditation, maybe some grounding exercises, vigorous activity or talking it through with someone would also all help IMO.
 
 
Blue Eyes Not Innocent
14:03 / 24.04.08
I'm going to agree, Mordant's got the right of it; this really isn't the sort of thing a sigil is good for. I'd also second not trying to throw a curse on your ex, or jumping into another relationship. Putting the magic aside, the second one is just a bad idea, period, and the first one's kind of harsh; what'd she do to deserve that?

Spend some time alone, center yourself, laugh, cry, lean on your friends. Channel the grief you're feeling over it into a ritual, or your magical practice. Come up with something completely new, throw yourself into your work. Just a handful of ideas of what to do for ya.
 
 
STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK
14:30 / 24.04.08
True dat. Also remember this shit can be dealt with in non-magical ways- being in a fragile emotional state isn't probably the best place to be working from, magically.
 
 
STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK
14:36 / 24.04.08
(In fact, it was largely my experiences through trying and fucking up very badly something similar when I was much younger that frightened me enough to realise that magic wasn't really for me...)
 
 
Papess
15:19 / 24.04.08
Also remember this shit can be dealt with in non-magical ways- being in a fragile emotional state isn't probably the best place to be working from, magically.

That is a good point. You should be careful and very gentle with yourself and your approach.

I had a situation once where I was so magickally intertwined with someone through doing workings (including a binding ritual) with him, that approaching the break up (or anything else) through magick was fruitless. It became a very confusing psychological labyrinth that would sometimes take me further away from my reality. It was very difficult untangling myself from such an intimate affair.

OTOH, Mordant's grave dressing idea is wonderful. IME, I think it could be very beneficial to add to this a purification and re-birth ritual for yourself and your new life to reinforce a forward motion and personal growth. I would also recommend doing this on the Dark of the Moon (for grave part) and New Moon (rebirth part) for added lunar support.

Hugs and blessings to you.
 
 
STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK
16:17 / 24.04.08
And this may seem stupid- but I'd advise getting a haircut. Or dyeing it. Changing it somehow.

The way we wear our hair is not just a powerful symbol to others, it's also a very strong one to ourselves (I have no idea why that should be so, but as far as I can tell it is).

It's a very, very good way of telling yourself that this is a new start. If not hair, then make a change in something mundane, something everyday. Something that will mark your new beginning.

I know it sounds dumb- when someone said it to me a few years back I thought he was full of shit. Then I cut off my (ten years' worth, came down to my ass) dreadlocks, and fuck me if I didn't feel like a new person.
 
 
Less searchable M0rd4nt
16:46 / 24.04.08
Seconding Stoats' advice re: the haircut. It can make a big difference.

Also, this--I would also recommend doing this on the Dark of the Moon (for grave part) and New Moon (rebirth part) for added lunar support--is generally good advice, tying the rite into something concrete happening in the physical world.

However, if you're not someone who normally pays much attention to moon phases you might want to go with a pattern that's more relevant to you (doing the funeral part on a Monday morning and the rebirth on Friday after work, for example).

Very yes on nonmagical solutions too. Take extra care of your wellbeing at this difficult time.
 
 
Blue Eyes Not Innocent
21:55 / 24.04.08
I know it sounds dumb

It really doesn't, actually; I've remarked to a friend of mine that going to the barber shop is kind of magical; you go in, a little man puts a robe on you and gestures around your head for a few minutes(and in the case of my barber says things in a language I can't understand), finishes with a flourish, and you walk out of there feeling like a new man.
 
 
Glenn Close But No Cigar
21:57 / 24.04.08

Dexter Graves, sorry to hear you are having a rough 'un.

When you're feeling as bad as you do, it's often a good idea to imagine the person you want to be, and then play-act as if you are that person. Do this for a little while, and you'll be surprised at how quickly the gap between the person you feel you are, and the person you want to be, narrows. At worst, it'll take your mind off the crappy feelings you are experiencing, at best, you'll feel fucking great.
 
 
Gypsy Lantern
09:03 / 25.04.08
Haircuts: I find it really interesting that Oshun, the Orisha of love, sexuality, pleasure, good times, joy and sorrow, is also the patron of hairdressers. It's related to her broader patronage over the decorative arts, but the haircut thing specifically relates to the Yoruban concept of Ori - the Spirit of the Head. A presence that's not actually too far removed from the western esoteric tradition's idea of the Holy Guardian Angel. One's Ori is said to be located physically in the head, and therefore haircuts and how you wear your hair are important because it's about the exaltation of the seat of your Ori. By getting your hair cut and making an effort with how you wear your hair, you are honouring and celebrating your Ori, who is the most important Spirit you can work with.

When I'm walking around South East London and see various late night hair dressing establishments catering to African/Afro-Caribbean clientele, all equipped with their own soundsystems, and hard at work crafting some pretty elaborate haircuts - it often makes me think about this stuff.

Also, interestingly, Marie Laveau (that is, Marie II) was a hairdresser by trade. In historical accounts of Laveau II, the opportunity that this occupation provided to gather information about clients and also to transcend the colour lines in Louisiana is generally emphasised; but in the context of Ori, you could perhaps consider her role of hairdresser as a spiritual occupation in itself.

I'm not sure how all of this might relate to the villainous character of "the barber" - mortal enemy of natty dreadlocks - and the subject of many great reggae tracks.
 
 
Less searchable M0rd4nt
09:50 / 25.04.08
My God actually cut a load of my hair off one time. He'd been on at me to get it cut for weeks, said I'd feel better when I did, and I'd been saying Yeah yeah yeah and not doing it. Then one day I'm cleaning the bathroom, right? One minute holding a sponge and next minute holding the scissors and there's big ol' handfulls of hair in the sink. I had to go out like that and buy some clippers to finish the job.

I did feel better afterwards though. He was totally right.
 
 
EmberLeo
11:29 / 25.04.08
I find it useful when I'm just too full of some unbearable emotion to use healing, yes, but specifically Cleansing style healing.

In a really simple, immediate sense, I'll just focus on all that built up stress, color it something painful or muddy (i.e. red or brown), and then use blue or green to wash it out, letting it drain out my limbs.

If I can't focus enough to do that, I'll count my breaths for a while first, try to center, ground, shield, etc.

These days, I'm getting really good calming results out of putting myself inside an egg-shaped shield. But that's probably somewhat personal, since I do a whole lot with egg symbology.
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In theory, I'd agree with the haircut thing - I've seen it work for others. For me, that's a screaming no-no. But then what I tend to want isn't to feel like a whole new me, but to be reassured that I'm still me. My hair has always been a fairly big part of my identity.

It's interesting what you say, Gypsy, because I feel protected by my hair, but I hadn't looked at it in quite that way before.

--Ember--
 
 
Gypsy Lantern
11:50 / 25.04.08
I've seen it work for others. For me, that's a screaming no-no

I think you're perhaps in some way participating in the same process by not cutting your hair. It's possibly more about giving importance to the hair and how you wear it, as an exaltation of one's Ori, than its about cutting or not cutting.

If you think of it as more about considering one's hair as a decorative crown for Ori, rather than a short hair/long hair thing, then this stuff maps much more easily onto the dreadlocks/baldhead struggle. Dr Alimantado has much insight into these mysteries in his treatise on shooting the barber.

Dexter: Apologies for using the fragments of your broken heart as a platform for talking about haircuts and reggae.
 
 
Eek! A Freek!
12:33 / 25.04.08
Whenever I have felt really bad heartache, I ended up embracing it and letting it wash through me. I try think of it as an important aspect of experience and try take comfort and joy in the fact that I can actuallt have this depth of feeling at all. I let the pain awaken my senses and the world ends up brighter somehow. A veil lifts and the memory of pain remains, but the cause seems less important.
Just don't confuse "embracing heartache" with wallowing in it: That road leads to depression and darkness. Heartache is something you let yourself go through, not set up residence in.
 
 
Haloquin
22:27 / 26.04.08
But then what I tend to want isn't to feel like a whole new me, but to be reassured that I'm still me. My hair has always been a fairly big part of my identity. - Ember

I'm the same. My hair constitutes a very definite part of how I present myself, my identity. So, yeah, keeping it as it is - and eventually dying it red again - is how I work with my hair. I am a fairly constant person personality-wise, and I have a need for stability (due to childhood changes/insecurity in family life I suspect).

Relating this back to Dexter, I guess there is a difference between wanting to feel like a new person, and wanting to have a new start as the same you. I have in mind the sense that you are still you, a reminder that you don't die if a relationship does. Even if that is how it feels. Letting go of that part of your make-up/personality/life is so hard, and painful, but it can help to remember that you are still you. It was a part of you, but isn't all of you.

I don't know if this is a feeling you have, Dexter, but if it is, then it might help to remind yourself of who you are, and work out whether you need to feel like a new person to move on, or if you need to feel as strongly as you can that you are a whole you, capable of moving on.

Best wishes.
 
 
EmberLeo
02:37 / 28.04.08
It may also help to try and keep in mind that any given relationship lasts as long as it lasts. Ending does not equal Failure any more than the fact that we're mortal means we're failing at life.

This can be an opportunity to get to know yourself that much better. The better you know yourself, the easier it is to find others with whom you can relate smoothly.

--Ember--
 
 
Samael
18:46 / 07.05.08
Ok, the seemingly requisite sentence first: All of the above advice is good.

Now then, that out of the way, you have my sympathy on your recent heartache. There is no pain quite like it really, when a lover goes buh-bye. There can be a useful application of the energy your emotions create. Since you originally started approaching this with sigils involved, why not go with creating a servitor to help you out?

In my experience, servitors are very good when it comes to focusing and using our energy/emotions/desires/whatever you want to obtain certain ends. Create one that is powered by your heartache, and depression. Have its use and purpose move towards mending your hurting and moving on and growing stronger from it all. Thus for every tear you shed, pang of hurt you feel, and every brownie you consume in your healing process will be fuel for your creation to assist in mending you.

If you have never used or created a servitor before, it really isn't a rough way to go, and your experience in sigil spells have already gotten your feet wet. If you need instructions there should be a thread on them on Barbelith, and if not, the search engine oracles can easily lead the way. Upon using search engines, I find that "Merrick"'s servitor essays are the best.

I can also give any advice on the matter that I can, feel free to send a message.

Hang in there, while you are alive you are winning.
 
  
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