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A different kind of deja vu

 
 
Neville Barker
01:20 / 24.04.08
Okay, this is hard to explain.

YEARS ago, in high school around the time I first started smoking pot I began occasionally having these episodes I dubbed, for lack of a better vocabulary, 'pot-flashbacks'. No one I knew had similar experiences and of course I just chalked it up to the drug because at the time I was first falling in love with the idea of seeing 'through' the world around me and the only way I knew how to do that was with drugs.

'Well then, what the hell was it like?'

I'll tell you, although again, this is hard to put into words.

The first one, I was sitting in Geometry paying attention (to some degree) to the instructor's lesson when all of a sudden my vision and tactal sense began to 'boil'. I use that term because the only thing I've found close to describe this in words is Burroughs talkign about 'silver spots boiling in front of Audrey's eyes' in Cities of the Red Night.

Anyway, it felt similar to passing out. Vision shutters black, skin burns with added sensation from nowhere and suddenly hot air shoots through my nose.

While this was happening physically (or maybe as a result) I began to see the same scene in front of me, but superimposed over itself as a caricature - spotty and vague like a dream. It was then at this point that I became SURE that I wasn't seeing this superimposition but rather 'remembering' it from a dream, as if I had lived this before but in a dream I had recently had but not remembered until now.

From here the superimposition began to lead from the 'here and now' I started out in, veering instead toward the scene in the dream. I became aware that there was something that at least marginally felt 'important' waiting just around the next corner, like when you contemplate massive philosophies and feel you almost have 'It'. There was a woman's presence somewhere nearby in the dream corridor and somehow I knew I had to see it (even though I describe it as feminine the adverb 'her' feels wrong here). But about there it slips away and frustration sets in.

So that was the first. I had several more around this time, then nothing for years. It's hard to say how often they have come back, but they seem to cluster up every couple of years and have never again coincided with drugs except maybe the second to last time I had it when I had done a bit of coke the night before.

It's been at least three or four years now, until earlier today when I had one, in a dream. Kind of a dream within a dream about a dream or some such convoluted thing.

So, help me out. Does this sound familiar to anyone else? Anything even remotely similar? They're scary (esp. if you are driving when it comes on) but frustrating because when they disipate you want more, hoping to get a glimpse of whatever it is that seems to be slipping through the cracks.
 
 
Hal the UZI-Mason
16:38 / 24.04.08
I have something similar to this. It's as if while dreaming a part of the time-constrained consciousness following linear time branches of and allows me a glimpse of future events. Not recognizing it for what it is I forget about it until that spesific event in time/space triggers an overwhelming feeling of familiarity as that future-memory merges with the everyday, linear-time bound, flowing, consciousness.
Lately it has sometimes started to become disorienting and frightening as I've gotten it inside my head that this might reach a point where I loose hold of the linear flow and instead start to loop.

J.W. Dunne wrote a book called An Experiment with Time that I'm hoping will clarify some things for me whenever I get around to reading it. You might want to have a look at what wikipedia has to say about the author and the book.

I actually joined Barbelith because I remembered the site from a dream, and I was hoping to learn more about this precognitive phenomenon. It's been hard to putit all into words though so I've limited myself to just lurking so far.
 
 
Less searchable M0rd4nt
10:19 / 25.04.08
It's difficult to say, when presented with an experience like that, exactly what it might be. Sometimes the only thing to do is make a detailed record, and then file the episode under "that was very interesting but I can't really process it without further data" until something else comes along.

I will say though that there are neurological conditions which could cause some of those effects. Maybe checking in with your GP would be a good idea, just to be on the safe side.
 
 
Eek! A Freek!
12:23 / 25.04.08
Deja-vu has always been strong with me, and it arrives quite frequently, but not quite like your example. The sensation of being outside of myself is familiar though: almost like being feverish with a fog around my head, and like my body from my neck down doesn't really exist, even though it functions normally, albeit on auto-pilot. I do feel sometimes that my deva-vu is leading me somewhere, but the moment I deviate, it breaks off. Too often I try articulate to myself or to whoever I'm with what's about to happen, and that stops the feeling. It's frustrating. Deja-vu feels like a sign-post, or a signal somewhat akin to synchronicity sometimes... I just have no Idea on how to follow it.

Since you mention that this seems drug related, I have another thing, but more of a precog experience: It seems that my body knows a few hours before it's going to get high, even if I have no plans to, or even when I don't have any pot at home. It's hard to explain... I'll start acting a bit goofy, maybe slur my words a bit, feel that familiar haze or tingly-fog around my eyes (but not my vision)in short, I start feeling high. Every single time I get this feeling, I end up smoking up afterwards. Sometimes a friend shows up unannounced with a joint, sometimes I stumble upon a group of people smoking and they invite me to participate, once I even ended up finding a 3g baggie on the street walking home. I never "plan" on smoking up, but whenever I have this sensation, I inevitably do...
 
  
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