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Dr. Know

 
 
yichihyon
09:07 / 22.04.08
Dr. Know The best of cover
Dr. Know
Habily What was old is new cover

This is a thread for those curious of what Nardcore was about the punk movement in Oxnard California. My father used to work with one of the band members Kyle Toucher and he let them practice in the Santa Paula orange orchards where we used to live for a while. While I got into comics I gradually found that the Hernadez Bros were from Oxnard California where my parents still live. These are some of the album covers they used to draw.

Brandon Cruz the original singer used to be a child actor in the show the Courtship of Eddie's father with no other than the Hulk Bill Bixby!!!! If interested in what this band sounds like I will put some stuff available from You Tube. enjoy.

Dr. Know - Watch it Burn
 
 
grant
15:59 / 22.04.08
Mystic Records!


One of my favorite old albums is a compilation of covers by a bunch of old California punk bands. Stukas over Bedrock is a name I remember... and Acid Head (they covered The Supremes' "Love Child" marvelously).

Man. Whoah.
 
 
yichihyon
23:15 / 22.04.08
Here are some covers of some California punk bands available on amazon.com:
Stalag 13
Ill Repute
 
 
grant
16:52 / 23.04.08
What's with the gar rune? That X with the diamond?

I'm wondering if I absorbed that symbol subconsciously in my misspent youth.

I've got one on me.
 
 
yichihyon
23:24 / 23.04.08
The symbol of the upside down cross mixed with the R medicine sign on the Dr Know covers? I'll have to ask Brandon Cruz or any members of Dr Know if I see them at the Strand or on tour. Silver Strand in Oxnard of course. Maybe one of the Hernandez Bros can illuminate the meaning of the gar rune symbol and see if it stands for anything magical. Did you know some of the members of Big Bad Voodoo Daddy, the band featured in the movie Swingers, are from the Strand? I don't know if they are really into magick though.
 
 
grant
16:06 / 24.04.08
No, not the R (although that's *interesting*) - I was asking about the logo on the T-shirt of the woman on the Habily cover and the guitarist on the Stalag 13 cover.

It's this, which is a strange thing to see in a Southern California punk context.
 
 
pony
17:53 / 24.04.08
I could be wrong, but the "gar" strikes me more as a suggestion of argyle than anything else. it's not uncommon to see early 80s punk photos with clothing that incorporates/defiles preppy modes of dress.
 
 
pony
20:10 / 24.04.08
(on second thought, google images seems to be backing up my suspicion that this is the fabled "nardcore symbol")
 
 
yichihyon
01:02 / 25.04.08
I think palace politics is talking about this Nardcore compilation cover:


I think it is just an O over an X the first two letters of Oxnard, California but I'll have to ask Brandon Cruz or any of the others if I run into them and see if it is a magical symbol or not.......
 
 
pony
16:59 / 25.04.08
yeah, that's the symbol. Wiki say "The Nardcore symbol, a popular tattoo, was created by Ismael Hernandez of Dr. Know on a "PeeChee" folder when he was in school." It doesn't have any pictures on the wiki page, put I can't think of any other symbol it would be referring to.
 
 
grant
16:52 / 28.04.08
Ismail? Is he related to the Hernandez whut drew them covers and "Love & Rockets"?

I'm also kind of curious how this scene would have related to the Orange County stuff I remember, like Agent Orange and Jodie Foster's Army (at least, I *think* they were O.C.).
 
 
grant
17:53 / 28.04.08
Just been editing wikipedia....
 
 
yichihyon
18:44 / 28.04.08
I just looked in wikipedia under Jaime Hernandez and found that yes indeed the bassist for Dr. Know, Ismael Hernadez is his younger bro!!!!

All I remember as a little child was Kyle Toucher talking to my Dad about music and Dr. Know playing loud at where we used to live in the middle of the Orange orchards in Santa Paula. He used to go on about music, the Misfits and my dad about Iggy Pops Raw Power and other music and how Kyle auditioned for Motley Crue once before they became famous. One of the Dr. Know songs contain the lyrics Oxnard land of the toilets or something like that.....I remember sneaking in what used to be my room and looking at their instruments and playing on the silver taped snare drum with the drum sticks imagining I was in a band....

A weird coincidence is James Bond..... Another friend at my dad's work was Stewart Jervell? I don't know if I spelled his name right but he bought the mint green car in an auction in one of the Rodger Moore era James Bond films and he used to drive it over to the abandoned place in the orange orchards where we used to live and where Stewart used to live before us, he was kind enough to let us stay there after he left because he talked to the landowners so that we could stay there. Little would they know there used to be a punk band who used to practice there and I feel like the neferaous asian villian in James Bonds first film Dr. No telling you this.

I don't know if they have anything to do with Agent Orange or Jodie Foster's Army but I do know that the surf gangs like to fight over the surf turf over there. If you are in the wrong waters you are going to be attacked as I witnessed one attack in front of a Silver Strand store where I used to work.

Incidently though I saw No Doubt before they hit it big in Oxnard and know a few people who partied with them once. An Oxnard band called the Ska Daddies opened for them and partied with them. I've been meaning to check them out but my sister turned me on to the 1st No Doubt Cd and heard they would be playing so I went to a little gathering of a concert in Oxnard with the Ska Daddies and No Doubt and let me tell you Gwen Stefani was extra cute in her shiny red dress and fishnets kicking up a storm on stage as I was singing along trying to keep up with her high notes! So there might be some interaction between bands from O.C. and Oxnard. This was before Big Bad Voodoo Daddy from Oxnard with their swing style made a semi hit in the States. So after No Doubt they were looking for other bands with similar sounds and Big Bad Voodoo Daddy with their swing sound was on the go Daddy O!
 
 
grant
01:56 / 29.04.08
Apparently, there's a nardcore band named "Cirith Ungol," so maybe a rune connection isn't too far out.
 
 
yichihyon
03:49 / 29.04.08
Cirith Ungol I think wasn't exactly a nardcore band rather they were a Ventura metal band. Ventura is the neigboring city to Oxnard so I think that was the mix up. Cirith Ungol is the name of a setting in Lord of the Rings isn't it? What was weird was I remember the covers had Elric on them than anything Lord of the Rings.

Cirith Ungol - One foot in hell
Cirith Ungol - Frost and Fire
Cirith Ungol - King of the Dead
 
 
Locust No longer
07:24 / 29.04.08
Ah, nice topic. I've wondered about nardcore, and Dr. Know in particular for a while. The only nardcore I knew about was NOFX and Ill Repute. My friend is totally into that area of music, although he doesn't like NOFX (nor do I honestly)...
 
  
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