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Guillermo does The Hobbit?

 
 
Poke it with a stick
14:42 / 28.01.08
Stumbled across an article here which says he's in talks to direct and co-supervise the script with fellow beardy Peter Jackson.

This is a good thing, right?
 
 
Closed for Business Time
14:48 / 28.01.08
This could prove amazing! With PJ apparently not directing, I can think of few people I'd rather see in the chair than Del Toro. Jeebus, now I'm trying to splice the visuals from Pan's Labyrinth onto memories of Bilbo in the goblins' halls...
 
 
Hydra vs Leviathan
17:34 / 28.01.08
But... is he still doing Mountains of Madness?

I'm actually kind of mixed-feeling about this. While GDT is an awesome director, i'm not sure he's very Tolkien, if you know what i mean. Lovecraft, yes, absolutely... but Tolkien... not so sure. And The Hobbit is the small-scale end of Tolkien, not the grandiose end, and is probably the Tolkien work which features least mysticism and psychological symbolism, because it was written a) for his kids and b) before he had fully worked out the overarching Middle-Earth project.

Del Toro also seems to reach the really stellar heights when he's pursuing his own ideas, rather than adapting someone else's. Which doesn't explain why i am convinced that his AtMoM will be utterly awesome, but i think that's more because i think Del Toro is about the only director who could really pull off Lovecraft (as genuine creepy, head-bending cosmic horror, rather than as standardised gore/monster stuff)... whereas i think there are probably more directors out there who could do The Hobbit well - probably more than could have done LotR well, TBH, as it's a much shorter and simpler story.

So, i guess, while i'm pretty certain that GDT could do a good Hobbit film, i'd rather someone else do it if it would keep GDT from doing more, well, Del Toro-ish stuff.

Wasn't Sam Raimi being cited widely as possible Hobbit director at one point?
 
 
Seth
19:47 / 28.01.08
The more money he makes from this the more freedom he'll have to make the films you like. They'll just come a bit later.

Unless he dies.
 
 
Closed for Business Time
19:49 / 28.01.08
The Hobbit may well be lower on the scale in terms of grandiosity, but haven't Jackson & Co implied that they're going to stretch the movie(s) to include more back- and side-stories? - which has me salivating at the thought of Gandalf in the Necromancer's fortress, and other interesting sidelines.

I've heard Raimi's expressed interest in directing "under" Jackson - as there will likely be two movies, it's not entirely unthinkeable that two directors would be involved. But would Raimi be the right man? If asked, my vote of confidence would go with a Del Toro/Jackson double act.

Wikipedia tells me that MGM CEO H. Sloan says that Jackson could direct The Hobbit part deux if he has the Tintin movie done at that stage.
 
 
Feverfew
20:15 / 28.01.08
Worryingly, I skim-read your last sentence as "MGM CEO H. Sloan has signed Samuel L Jackson as the Hobbit", although I will spare you the predictable jokes. I would have a lot of faith in Del Toro, though.
 
 
iamus
15:53 / 29.01.08
I'm pretty sure Del Toro would be perfectly suited for this. Pan's Labyrinth (which I only watched the other night, and which kind of tore the heart from me) is a very personal and small story in which the mystical elements, I think, are very much in key with what I would expect from The Hobbit.

The Hobbit definitely is the small-scale end of Tolkien, and while I think Del Toro's great at all the grand balls-to-the-wall stuff, he's shown to be very, very good at weaving the mythical into the mundane. Basically I think he's got the range to tackle all of the material in the book, frae seed cake right the way to thrashy dragon fights.
 
 
Seth
22:59 / 29.01.08
I heard somewhere unsourceable that Tolkien later rationalised The Hobbit's difference in tone to LOTR as Bilbo being a rather unreliable narrator, lightening the mood of what he actually experienced for betime stories for the kids back in the Shire. Telling the story in a radically rewritten, scarier and nastier form, juxtaposed against a framing device in which the faithfully adapted material is shown as a sanitised and lightened version intended for what he believes childen can handle would be rather fun. File under: never going to happen, like my dream of a ruthlessly rewritten Miyazaki take on the books.
 
 
Jack Fear
15:52 / 25.04.08
It is on, my preciousssss.
 
 
Keith, like a scientist
16:35 / 25.04.08
Keith = Happy As Possible Without Peter Jackson Directing.

I think GDT's voice will fit in well with the existing LOTR movies and it will certainly add an extra creepy but delightful factor to some of the scenes with the goblins. Really looking forward to his goblins.

TheOneRing.net interview with GDT today is full of promising bits.
 
 
FinderWolf
17:19 / 25.04.08
Yesss!!! Everyone's aflutter with the contents of what the 2nd movie would be (the bridge between Hobbit & Fellowship); I'm just happy Guillermo is on The Hobbit. Saints be praised!
 
 
Closed for Business Time
09:22 / 26.04.08
It made me so happy to read that GDT wants to use much more CGI-enhanced animatronics, rather than the other way around. And just the fact that he's 110% on is a great way to wake up. McKellen, Serkis... now, who'd you like to see doing young Bilbo? And Beorn, dear sweet lord, who should be Beorn?
 
 
Seth
09:58 / 26.04.08
Signs are looking pretty good so far, aren't they? I like how he downplayed the second movie as a bridge. I haven't read the books, but I've understand that a lot of the material for the second film will be taken from notes and appendices. That they're aiming to assemble a canon story from all these fragments is an extremely interesting prospect in that it opens the way for quite a few more Middle Earth films in future. There's a long, long history there to draw from, so this franchise potentially has the screen legs to outpace Narnia in terms of the number of years it can stay in cinemas. As long as they continue to make good entertainment and a lot of the right creative people a lot of money then I'm all for it.

Also encouraging: no mention of 3D. I appreciate that it's all the rage right now with top directors, but I'm pretty cynical about it. Admittedly that's after not having seen anything made with the new tech... I'm just one for bog standard good character and storytelling, so it's hard to get excited about seeing films made in 3D. The one encouraging development I've heard is that in test screenings audiences wanted fewer cuts to allow them time to linger on the beauty of an image, a phenomena that might actually improve storytelling in some ways. I've always been a big fan of strongly used cinematography. Perhaps this is more a topic for a new thread... I just can't imagine myself wanting to see a film in higher quality than DVD, let alone wanting to invest in HD-DVD, let alone wanting a special pair of glasses that put an extra layer of separation between me and a film even if the promise is to be more immersive.

The more these films are a success, the more it encourages other creators to make blockbuster films this well crafted and with this much attention to detail. So yeah, godspeed GDT.
 
 
FinderWolf
21:18 / 30.04.08
CNN reports that Empire Magazine reports that Ian McKellen will once again play Gandalf in del Toro's HOBBIT movie.

REJOICE!
 
 
grant
01:48 / 01.05.08
We're in talks to have Brian Blessed play Dain, and I'm trying to talk Guillermo's people out of using Robbie "Hagrid" Coltrane as Beorn.
 
 
FinderWolf
14:58 / 01.05.08
huh? "we're"? Do you actually work with these guys or is this typical Barbelith meta-tongue-in-cheek?
 
 
Jack Fear
15:47 / 01.05.08
 
 
grant
16:45 / 01.05.08
You wouldn't believe the fights in the art department over the trolls (one side wants actors, the other simple CGI as in LotR).
 
 
Red Concrete
14:50 / 27.05.08
It seems that Christopher isn't happy about his LotR share of profits, and is trying to halt production of The Hobbit.

Some casting spoilers (huh??) in that link...
 
 
Spaniel
18:41 / 27.05.08
Surprised no-one's linked to this transcript of fan questions to Jackson and Del Toro

So looks like each film is going to get a year of post. Wow, not seen that much FX effort since the LOTR trilogy hit. What's particularly interesting is that Del Toro wants to push the envelope with animatronics.
 
  
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