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Neil Gaiman's 'American Gods'

 
  

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Tryphena Absent
00:13 / 31.12.03
Brief Lives was the first Sandman that I read and consequently the one that really stuck with me. My reaction to American Gods was thus what you describe above, it felt stale because it seemed that Gaiman was stretching out a narrative that he had processed in one format in to a different one and moreover a format that it actually worked less effectively within. I'm not sure that it's lack of collabarative influence so much as the continuation of an idea when really it isn't necessary to the type of story. Novels can be excusably bad when they're original and the plot is interesting because they have something going for them and American Gods lacks that completely because it's simply a retelling.

Quite apart from this Gaiman is above all a visual writer. His description works, you can see what he's writing quite easily but he's so visual that it escapes in to the words that characters speak to one another and their general interaction. In his attempt to get inhumanity across in a way that we can see he loses the plot of both American Gods and Stardust.
 
 
cusm
15:45 / 31.12.03
So did anyone else get a distinctly Stephen King vibe from the whole idelic small town with its secret ancient evil subplot?
 
 
sleazenation
17:38 / 31.12.03
oddly enough some editions proclaim the proud boast that it was "as good as stephen king or your money back". Tragically, closer inspection of the inside back cover reveals this offer closed on the 31st of may 2002. Presumably at this point American Gods became 'worse than stephen king'.
 
 
Jack The Bodiless
18:16 / 31.12.03
See, I had no problem with Gaiman's style, but felt I'd read the story before - with Adams' Long Dark Teatime Of The Soul and with a lot of his Sandman stuff. Just struck me that he was milking a good novel out of stories he'd already written or read...
 
 
Jack The Bodiless
18:18 / 31.12.03
...and I don't think American Gods could be worse than Steven King's stuff without a lobotomy (and the inclusion of a blocked horror writer living in Maine...)
 
 
deuce
04:22 / 26.01.04
American Gods didn't work for me, because it was obvious that he was writing "out of voice". The main character, a former convict, who's nicknamed "Shadow"? Didn't jibe. His pet name for his wife was "Puppy"? Again, didn't jibe. And I thought the ending was a little weak. It was a good set-up overall, what Wednesday was up to, the overall con itself. But the ending seemed to fall short for me.
 
 
Our Lady Has Left the Building
05:48 / 26.01.04
What do you mean by 'out of voice'?
 
 
Lionheart
07:20 / 26.01.04
*SPOILER ALERT*

I've had a few problems with the book. First of all it sets you up for some big events that is supposed to happen. The so-called "storm". Now the fact that the "storm" will happen is revealed in the beginning by the narrator himself. Later on the narrator says that the storm had begun but nobody noticed. Then it is revealed to Shadow that the "storm" is a con. Yet we, the readers, were specifically told by the narrator that there was a storm happening but what the hell "the storm" was is never explained.

One of my other problems with the book is the whole problem that it features no American gods. Gaiman gives some small explanation for the oversight saying that, and i paraphrase, "America is a bad land for gods" and then goes on to explain how American gods are more like supernatural creatures than gods. That makes no sense considering that the book is based around 2 Norse gods who fit into the supernatural creatures category. Loki and Odin arent' "all-powerful". Hell, even back home the 2 were afraid of being killed by the Ice Giants. this also applies to gods from Africa and Greece/Rome. (I'm ignoring the other pantheons cause i don't know that much about them.) So the whole book is based on a flawed premise.

My third problem is the whole stream of amazing coincidences in the book. The best example being when Shadow, by accident, gets the magickal gold coin which resurrects his wife when Shadow throughs it into her grave.

Also I still can't figure out why the Gods were so afraid of dying when, as we know due to the leprechaun, they don't really die.
 
 
deuce
06:41 / 27.01.04
when I say "out of voice", I mean the main character's word choice, speech pattern and overall demeanor seemed inconsistent to what I imagine an American ex-convict to sound like. Especially calling his wife "Puppy", it seemed like a forced term of endearment that made me wince everytime I read it. Gaiman just didn't seem to get a handle on a believable "voice" for his main character.
 
 
Ex
13:46 / 27.01.04
*****Spoiling the plot, spoiling the plot******

I found it a great premise with a poor execution, but maybe I was expecting a bit much. The original idea: "What if the Gods were in decline - they were more or less ordinary chaps who get hungry and have to find jobs and behave like you and me..." Great start.
Then not much was done with it. So the Eygptian God of the Dead - he's - oh, he's running a funeral parlour.

Can I also stick in a complaint about the character of Bilquis? Quite annoyed about her, as Gaiman has infrequently done some interesting things with female characters. I was simultaneously cheered and uneasy when she first crops up, a Goddess now reduced to sex work during which her clients "worship" her and are consumed by her omnivorous devouring ladyparts. I mean, hurrah for devouring ladyparts, but I had a sneaking feeling it wasn't going to end well. And indeed, it didn't.
For all the mythical embroidery, I felt that "sexually powerful call girl gets killed by dodgy punter in limo" was a bit tired. Possibly Gaiman was making a point about the precarious nature of street sex work and the reduction of Goddesses to perilous mortal professions. But it read in a slightly flat, "Let's hit the call girl with a limo" kind of way. She dies to make a point (about the callousness of the new gods) - not very different from sexy minor female characters dying in any fiction.
I quite liked the dead wife, though.

To add my name to the roll-call - I liked the Sandman. I think half the problem with the novel was that he sketched his characters and scenery very broadly and blankly; I feel they could really have worked well with images to give them a sense of being deeper/more rounded.
Overall, I think the world of the novel just felt flat. If I'd had more of a sense of the world, and the characters, then the moments of vision and hallucination, and the bits of dialogue that were doomy or portentous, might have become surprising interventions into a grimy, or tawdry, or tacky world. As it was, the difference between the ordinary and the marvellous wasn't startling or compelling.
 
 
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14:46 / 27.01.04
H'mm, I started reading "American Gods" a few months ago but then stopped for some reason... I checked to see if I had a bookmark in it today and saw I stopped at page 83. Maybe I'll try again one day. I dunno. Just didn't really grab me I guess. Feel a little bit guilty too as my copies autographed.

Totally unrelated, but my dad (a bookstore manager) actually met Neil Gaiman this summer down in Florida at a big Barnes & Noble convention. He described Gaiman as a nice guy (but a little weird). Gaiman autographed books for everyone there (even past closing time) and for me he autographed "Endless Nights" (he even drew a neato sketch of Morpheus!) Wish I had actually been there. "The Sandman" is no longer my favorite comic (imo can't compete with Grant Morrison's work) but I still love the "Sandman" alot and were it not for that title I would never have gotten into comics.
 
  

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