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Gravity's Rainbow

 
  

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COG
20:06 / 24.12.07
I've recently started and I'm on about page 70. My plan was to crack it over Christmas, but that's not going to happen now. So far I'm really enjoying it. Very atmospheric and great descriptive writing of physical sensations. Someone upthread mentioned that they felt that it was reminiscent of poetry, and I'm in agreement. I'm heavily into a bit of Wordsworth right now as well, and Ted Hughes is a big favourite of mine, and this writing sometimes has the same physicality.

I'm really into the wartime atmosphere for some reason. I have no prior knowledge of the "plot" and luckily even reading the up-thread spoilers has done nothing to change this. I think if I can just enjoy the sensation of reading each paragraph or section and not worry about any meanings, then I will be thoroughly enjoying myself for the next couple of weeks.
 
 
COG
16:09 / 05.01.08
OK, up to page 280 ish. Just checking in to say that I'm stil enjoying it and although I couldn't lay out the plot in any great detail for you, I haven't found it too confusing so far. The parts where "strange things" happen seem clearly delineated and clearly parts of the character's thinking processes - idle thoughts, metaphors and allusions flickering through their heads.

I'm going to have to extend my library loan period on this one though. There's no way I'm going to get through 80 pages a day by my deadline.
 
 
astrojax69
20:15 / 05.01.08
plot? you want plot as well??
 
 
buttergun
02:19 / 06.01.08
Yeah...I'm working my way through that "Rolling Stone cover to cover" deal, 40 years of the magazine, every page of every issue. It's formatted so you can go through all of the book reviews -- in 1973 some bore named Michael Rogers became the "official" (and sadly therefore only) reviewer of books for RS. For Gravity's Rainbow all he wrote was that he read 30 pages of it and then gave up because he wanted "story." Luckily he only seems to have lasted a few years as the only reviewer for the mag.
 
 
Hallo, Paper Spaceboy
00:02 / 11.01.08
'kay, this showed up at work for me today, so I'm going to make my first attempt. I gather it holds together better than V., so I'm optimistic.
 
 
Alex's Grandma
08:29 / 11.01.08
I wouldn't be, exactly. 'V' is an easy, 200 yard dash on a sunny day compared to the hard, dark marathon you're about to embark on.

It is worth it though. As with taking a proper, grown-up dose of LSD, if you get to the end of Gravity's Rainbow - if you don't let it break you - then you won't be able to sit around at dinner parties discussing property values, in the future.

Finishing Gravity's Rainbow, I had a definite sense that I'd been through hell, but that I was unbowed, and that nobody, at least reasonably, was going to say I was a square, ever again.

At times it'll seem desperate, but the thing to do is, keep going!

Be advised though, that ...
 
 
nyarlathotep's shoe horn
20:51 / 12.01.08
like Digital Hermes I just finished my second reading of GR. It had taken several attempts, as the scene with the adenoid eating st paul's is always the point of no return.

finally, got beyond it.

=== thematic spoilers follow ===

Knowing in part what was going to happen from the first reading, gave me the chance to focus on all the things that had left me confused. It was much more satisfying (and funny) the second time around. I may pick it up again in another 5 years or so.

I find this to be the greatest work of American postmodern fiction in English. It is at heart a picareque story, which unravels the roots of our own culture's darkness in the tumult of the second world war.

Not only did the war engage most of the nations of the world, it also changed the way we think about one another, and interact. The V2 which begins the novel, gives way to the fat man & little boy that end the war.

The book is a lament that the fortunes of war no longer belong to Mars, but now belong to Pluto (death & money).

here's a quote that's yet appropriate:

“Don’t forget the real business of the War is buying and selling. The murdering and the violence are self-policing and can be entrusted to non-professionals. The mass nature of wartime death is useful in many ways. It serves as spectacle, as diversion from the real movements of the War. It provides raw material to be recorded into History, so that children may be taught History as sequences of violence, battle after battle, and be more prepared for the adult world. Best of all, mass death’s a stimulus to just ordinary folks, little fellows, to try ‘n’ grab a piece of the Pie while they’re still here to gobble it up. The true war is a celebration of markets. Organic markets, carefully styled ‘black’ by the professionals, spring up everywhere.”

This is a work of genius that some may appreciate as pap.
 
 
COG
18:06 / 15.01.08
I agree with lots of the above post. I see the whole thing as Pynchon's processing of the war. Surely the defining event for so many people who lived in the 20th Century. It feels defining to me and I only lived through its 4th hand cultural echoes felt through comics, toy soldiers, Airfix models and films.

It also seems a book very much a product of the 60s (though it was released in 73), just as lots of that culture seemed to be a setting aside of the brutal, exploitative past and trying to will a new world into existence. But the War is always lurking in the background of so many things from that decade. Damaged people, rootless people, soldiers returning from foreign lands, different from before they left. A knowledge that the world could turn upside-down over the course of a few weeks. Maybe that that possibility could exist in a positive sense. Could the 60s be seen as The Anti-War and not simply anti-war.
 
 
Dusto
18:46 / 15.01.08
It's definitely about its time as much as it's about the War. It even anachronistically namechecks Ishmael Reed at one point.
 
 
buttergun
12:47 / 16.01.08
I agree with what Grandma's Worm says, above, only that's how I feel about "V" -- parts of it felt like a rusty blade being twisted into my guts. Large parts of it. Gravity's Rainbow on the other hand kept me entertained throughout. I'm telling you -- when you get to the section where Slothrop dons a pig costume, abandons it in a bathouse, meets up with Pig Bodine, and escapes with him during a protracted chase scene on a stolen Red Cross truck, it will all be worth it.

And I haven't even mentioned Byron the Bulb!
 
 
buttergun
12:52 / 16.01.08
As for the 40s/60s paralells, let's not forget the large amount of proto-hippies Slothrop encounters, including a bona fide LSD group run by Saure Bummer (aka bummer trip). MF Beal is also mentioned in the final pages, an author whom Pynchon was friends with (she published her first novel Amazon One in 1976, but was known for her short stories for several years before that). And I think the '70s comes into play with the witch Slothrop meets and all of the occult shenanigans which occur (like the ghost of Peter Sachsa) are a nod to the brief moment of popularity the occult experienced in the early 70s.
 
  

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