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Buffalo Roots (PICS)

 
 
Suedey! SHOT FOR MEAT!
13:36 / 03.12.07
Right then! I've just self published a new comic, Buffalo Roots, about relationships, art, naive hopes, sense of place and identity - and thought it only right that I let you fine folk know about that.


Take a peek here!


And from the back cover: "A curious relationship between a young painter, Riley, and an aspiring writer named Emmé soon begins after a chance meeting in their hometown of Buffalo.

What follows is a a fragmented recollection of their naivety, pretensions, impossible expectations and need for acceptance. Conventional narrative and structure give way to a greater emphasis on single moments and emotions.

And the sense that Emmé may not quite turn out to be the fantasy figure some people paint her as..."


It's quite good! If perchance you would like to purchase such a thing, it's available now from such lovely comic shops as Page 45, Gosh!, OK comics, Etsy, Quimbys and Dave's comics, and it's around £4.50.

Also if you're interested in buying it from me, please PM me for the details.

And anyone who wants it can get a .pdf of the comic from me, it's not quite the same, but I'd like to share all the same!
 
 
Suedey! SHOT FOR MEAT!
13:40 / 03.12.07
Bonus from the Page 45 mailing list -

Refreshingly experimental, with flashes of full-colour painting amidst the shiny black ink on clean white paper stock, this is an impression of a brief relationship caught through snippets of conversation, which are, in the end, all one ever remembers of them: disjointed glimpses of where you were and what was said and done there. Mere fragments in which you were happy, exuberant, melancholic or discontented - when you needed reassurance, or perhaps wanted space. So it is with Emmé, an aspiring writer who enjoys Riley's company but won't commit to more, and Riley, a young painter who does want so much more but settles for what he can get... some of the time.

"It's just too much... or not enough." Great line.

For some this may prove too disjointed, but I was thoroughly impressed with the honesty and observation here: the contradictions, the inconsistencies, and the way in which what's thought casts light on what's said. It's up there on-line at John's website, but it's a joy to finally hold this long-promised piece in my hand and see that's received the quality production it deserves.
 
 
Essential Dazzler
13:42 / 03.12.07
Looks brilliant Suedey, loving the dashes of full colour, is it like that all the way through?

Your art always seems familiar to me, but I can never put my finger on what it reminds me of, I come to different conclusions every time, right now it's a Becky Cloonan inking Hope Larson.

I'll ask the lovely Page 45 people to put one aside for me.
 
 
Spaniel
13:45 / 03.12.07
I shall purchase from Mr Dave.
 
 
iamus
14:00 / 03.12.07
I have my copy sitting right next to me at the moment, and it's a lovely, lovely thing that you won't regret getting. Especially not for the price it's at. I've seen most of it as a work-in-progress, but it's a whole 'nother ball game printed as it is. The blacks from the B+W inkwork are deep and lush, and the colour leaps right out of the page in exactly the way it needs to.

It's a great wee subtle tale o' love and loss, using a lot of clever artsy tricksomeness to get its point across. From ambiguous text placement that can be almost be read in a variety of orders, to varying styles of brush work that ebb and flow in sync with the moods of the memories you're seeing. So glad to see this printed finally, because it's a story that's meant to be read in this form.

Top notch, sir!
 
 
iamus
13:47 / 04.12.07
Can you tell me a bit more about the print you got done, Suedey?

A few people down my end (fnar) want to know if there's a varnish on the inks or what, cause it's lush as fuck.
 
 
rizla mission
14:04 / 04.12.07
I shall try to pick up a copy of this from Gosh this afternoon.

The cover looks tremendous, Suedey.
 
 
ONLY NICE THINGS
15:02 / 04.12.07
Rock - I'll get two at the weekend, and report back.
 
 
Spaniel
16:45 / 04.12.07
(Sooo looking forward to getting this!)
 
 
Mike Modular
18:45 / 04.12.07
It is indeed a lovely piece. I hadn't seen this thread, so I was surprised and delighted when the familiar artwork caught my eye in Gosh today. Great stuff! I couldn't help but grin when I saw Emmé in the windowsill... It deserves another read soon, once I can stop staring at the shiny, shiny pages...
 
 
Suedey! SHOT FOR MEAT!
18:17 / 05.12.07
Wow, thanks everyone! I really appreciate it.

It is indeed like that all the way through, Pacific State! Well, sort of.

I tend to refer to the comic as being printed in full colour - because well, technically it is! Sort of in the same sense as shooting something on film and then making it black and white later. It all has to go through the colour machine because there's at least one spot of colour on every side printed. So it's not the most cost effective thing, but it is precisely what I wanted; it makes a lot of sense in the context of the story, with bursts and flashes of colour that place emphasis and importance on particular moments. I know some people thought I should make every page full colour, but that would kind of defeat the object of the story.

Also thank you for your kind comparisons! They're both excellent comic artists.

Iamus, I was gonna ask the printers about the look of it tomorrow when I pick up the second print run. But I'd hazard a guess that it's just because of the paper used, and the way the (black) ink sits on top of it. It's printed on quite a thick glossy (160gsm) paper. I've been very happy with all the reactions from the production values!

Also at the risk of talking it up too much, I do think it is something that might benefit from being read more than once. Somebody once described it to me as being "like a brain adventure" and I am very fond of that description! It is a bit like a comic jigsaw in some ways, in that my idea was for it to all combine to give a sense of an overall feeling, and that specifics aren't necessarily the important things here.

I don't want to sound especially lame, but actually getting this comic printed at long last has been a thoroughly pleasant experience for the most part. I'll lose money this time like I always knew I would, but fuck it, y'know? It's kind of exceeded all my expectations already, and it's very exciting for me that some of you have chanced upon it in shops.

Having said all that, I actually finished this comic seven months ago. My next comic is going to knock your fucking blocks off! I anticipate it being at least 80% better. When I make it.
 
 
iamus
20:41 / 05.12.07
80.7% is my estimate.

Care to place a bet?
 
 
Suedey! SHOT FOR MEAT!
10:54 / 06.12.07
I surely do!

Wait, is "25 times better" greater or less than "80% better"? Because I mean whichever is more! I left my maths head somewhere and quickly became confuddled.
 
 
Suedey! SHOT FOR MEAT!
11:30 / 03.01.08


My second print run! Another nice fresh, full box of comics ready to go!
 
 
yawn - thing's buddy
14:01 / 03.01.08
respect!
 
 
Essential Dazzler
15:55 / 03.01.08
Double Dip!

Double Dip is IMPORTANT.

I picked up my copy a couple of weeks back and loved it. Thanks for the pretty little fever dream, Suedey!
 
 
iamus
17:37 / 03.01.08
Double Dip is hella important!

So come on then, youze who bought this (and I know you're out there), what did yez think?
 
 
Suedey! SHOT FOR MEAT!
19:51 / 06.01.08
I am starting to wonder whether I should have packaged it with such suggestive sweets, mind you. Double dip? Double dip!? DOUBLE DIP!! It starts to sound a bit questionable, really...

Anyway - good to hear you picked up a copy, Pacific State! Thank you kindly, sir. Glad you liked it.

And yeah, to echo what iamus says above, I'd love to hear from anyone else who's read it. And as the big box of comics posted above is testament, there's plenty still going...
 
 
Suedey! SHOT FOR MEAT!
12:18 / 18.01.08
My comics on their travels, hitting up Chicago town.
 
 
grant
14:08 / 18.01.08
That's cool!
 
 
Alex's Grandma
08:37 / 19.01.08
Have you been following Mark! Millar's! marketing startegy for 'Kick-Ass' at all, Shot For Meat?

The details are on Newsarama, but essentially, Mark! seems to be offering to buy everyone who's prepared to put their shoulder to the wheel in terms of promoting the thing a beer.

There's a certain, beautiful simplicity about the idea; no one's going to do much for three quid, but a pint is another matter. It's matey, but it's not as intrusive as the offer of bizarre sexual favours might be. It walks the line, in other words - you might want to look into this, perhaps.
 
 
Spaniel
18:48 / 20.01.08
So how autobiographical is this? Eh?

Reveal your inner heart, Suede-boy.
 
 
iamus
16:35 / 24.01.08
Yes! What of it, Suedeson? The Boboss has asked you a question. That is, unless, the pain is still too close and to near to speak of. Or, alternatively, you think you can roll out another money-spinner from it, and don't want any of us crafty bastards to get all up in it with our plagarisin'


What happened to the pic of Flyboy rockin' yer comics?
 
 
lentil
15:42 / 28.01.08
hey suedey, having not checked barbelith for quite some time I was pleasantly surprised to see this in Gosh on the weekend... and also glad to see there's a thread for it! I will attempt to say something substantial about this substantial (and beautifully printed, as others have said) piece of work.

Well, you've really nailed your style. Very consistent and attractive, a degree of naturalism in both drawing and rendering that suits the slice-of-life situations you're drawn to very well. There's something cute about it, but not "cutesy", which again seems just right for the content. People's faces generally look fragile, as if they're naturally prone to getting involved in the kind of relationship you depict. So that helps the whole thing fit together in terms of believable motivations and the like - but of course the actual writing does that too. The situations are very recognisable (I think I've been on both sides of that, or something close to it, and it all felt true to me), and there's an empathy for the characters that fleshes them out. If Emme had been a sort of impenetrable femme fatale it could have come across as some maudlin self-pitying emo-boy thingy but the scenes where she needs reassurance from Riley paint her as less in control than the warning given by Riley's friend early in the comic would suggest. Of course, "people only hurt other people because they're fucked-up themselves", but you've put that across without moralising or showing what a "bad" person Emme is at the end. I don't know - are we supposed to read a moral into the end? I thought you'd managed to quite successfully leave it as "well this is just a thing that happened and these are the consequences". Riley gets over it and cleans himself up, Emme moves on... actually I suppose we see more progression in his character than hers so perhaps that is a moral of sorts...

By the way I loved the detail about her writing a story about a girl in love with a coma victim who can't notice him - lovely succinct insight into the character!

Also really enjoyed the device of the colour and more highly-rendered images only being used for Riley's portraits of Emme. Visually it works really well and also communicates this idea that his fantasy, or idea, of her, is more real and vivid than the reality of her. And who, when looking back on the first flushes of infatuation, hasn't felt that?

Good luck with it, sir!
 
 
Suedey! SHOT FOR MEAT!
14:14 / 30.01.08
Alright, iamus! I was getting round to it, I was! Alas, I fear there's no money spinners to be had here, but what I do have to give is this, MY INNER HEART: REVEALED AT LAST!

So how autobiographical is this? Eh?

W-e-e---e-e-ellll... partly! Or... semi! How's that for a big, descriptive answer, eh?

I guess the longer version is that most of it has a basis in things I've experienced or observed, and extrapolated from there. The characters became more like their own people, at least to me, but I'm not sure how much that may come across. I'm not all that much like Riley, and I don't really know anyone like Emme, but I know I've probably been a bit like both of them, and have known people to be a bit like both of them in turn.

I've certainly never lived in Buffalo, mind you, but I have been there and it reminded me a bit of where I'm from (Leicester).

I'm not much of a painter either (maybe you could tell) but I thought it was a nice way to tell a story - or not really tell a story so much, as chart the course of someone's feelings/fantasies through art, the sort of stuff that probably interests me a lot more than a straight ahead narrative sort of thing.

I mean, from a classic storytelling point of view it's a failure in the sense of not really having a great deal of detail or context for what's happening - but that was intentional because I was really only concerned with feelings for this particular project, and everything else is incidental.

But this, for me, is one of the great strengths of comic's as a medium - they're very good at cutting through things and getting right to the core of it, minimal snapshots, time and place, impressions and small moments, memories jumbling together but still stark and clear enough to be written so you can piece it all together. I'm a big fan of reading comics where you go back and forth between the pages, instead of it being linear, because it helps to build a greater impression in the mind. They're good at lots of other things too which is why, for me, it's such a great medium, but those are the things I really wanted to emphasise here, so such rules and conventions need not necessarily apply.

So while I'm not the biggest fan of auto-bio comics and stuff, I tried to ensure there was a little more to it than that. It was important to me that it wasn't simply portrayed from just one point of view, which hopefully lent it a bit more depth as a snapshot of a relationship that happened to these people rather than the sort of "maudlin self-pitying emo-boy thingy" lentil describes, "here are some things that happened to me once and how I feel about them personally", although I don''t doubt I may have strayed in that sort of area a little.

So for that reason, it was important to me to portray her point of view, because for a start the story really is about *her* more than anything else, and I do hope that comes across. That's why her views essentially bookend the piece, and I'd be more inclined to think of it more as something like a layered portrait of her, her affect on people around her and how she may be misunderstood. I really wanted it to be something that was understandable, rather than all from Riley's point of view reacting against her/himself. She's not some unknowable creature, which would probably be easier for Riley to deal with in some respects, but rather more developed than that.

Probably a bit more autobiographical than I'd like it to be in some ways, but still. I've gone and got too elaborate now, haven't I?

Also, thank you kindly for yr lovely words, lentil! Glad to hear you picked up a copy. And you know, I think that may be my favourite response I've received yet from the comic. But I think you might know that. Really lovely, and especially satisfying for me how much you really got all the things I was trying to do, that I feared may not come across.

As for the end, there's no moral as such. It's pretty much as you say; she reverts to type, more guarded and seeking approval. Riley cleans up, moves on, looks back, is pleased with what he made. I see Riley as an eternal optimist who in all likelihood would do exactly the same thing again, and probably will, with someone else.
 
 
Rachel Evil McCall
19:56 / 01.02.08
Ordered a copy from Quimby's. It came in the mail yesterday and I read it. I enjoyed it muchly. It was interesting how the whole thing seemed to be going in fast-foreward. The art as absolutely gorgeous.

Also, I really liked the texture of the ink on the paper, the way it was visibly raised off the page... Okay, I'm kinda weird.
 
 
Suedey! SHOT FOR MEAT!
22:39 / 03.02.08
Lovely! That's great to hear, I'm glad you enjoyed it. The texture of the ink has actually gotten a lot of comments too, so that's not weird at all!

You know, I really wish I could get more of my comics on sale in America. I'm looking in to it, but because of the exchange rate it's really hard to work - either I lose a lot of money, or it costs people about $10 for one comic (and that's only just making my money back).

I really wish I could just get some comics printed up *in* America, both cutting out the costs in between and thus able to offer up a product at a decent price over there, but I've no idea how to go about that without actually being around.
 
 
Suedey! SHOT FOR MEAT!
12:10 / 15.09.08
Just a note to let you all know that now this has gone out of print I've put the whole comic up on flickr.

If you've not read it go take a look! It's nay bad.
 
 
FinderWolf
14:34 / 16.09.08
I've been starting to read it & really like it - the only problem is that on flickr, the lettering is often too tiny to read. I don't think I'm missing a way to blow the images up a bit on that site, am I...?
 
 
ONLY NICE THINGS
16:53 / 16.09.08
Click the button titled "all sizes". The one with the magnifying glass. That'll give you the original page size.
 
 
FinderWolf
19:23 / 18.09.08
Thanks, Haus! And it really looks gorgeous - beautifully drawn, the composition is great, and the emotions it evokes are very real & genuine. The device of having the portaits in color works quite well.

>> So while I'm not the biggest fan of auto-bio comics and stuff, I tried to ensure there was a little more to it than that. It was important to me that it wasn't simply portrayed from just one point of view, which hopefully lent it a bit more depth as a snapshot of a relationship that happened to these people rather than the sort of "maudlin self-pitying emo-boy thingy"...

Yeah, as much as I can groove with some autobio comics, they can easily slide into 'emo self-pity, I liked this girl and she left me' or 'I feel aimless in life and here's 6 pages about me washing the dishes while reflecting on this' & what have you. I would say you skillfully avoided that here, to strong effect. We feel Emme's emotions and turmoil as much as we feel the lovelorn guy's pain and confusion.
 
 
Yotsuba & Benjamin!
22:49 / 18.09.08
Suedey, did you use a local printer for that original book? Just curious.
 
 
Suedey! SHOT FOR MEAT!
14:35 / 19.09.08
Glad you enjoyed it, Finder!

And yeah, Benjamin, I just used a local printers. People have told me that using local printers can work out more expensive (which I can believe), but at the same time I'm wary of printers that specialise in comics stuff because I fear things coming out looking too generic... I'm still searching out a printer I'm really happy with to use for my next projects. I'd like to find one I can stick with for a long time! But I've got a few more options to try out for next time.
 
 
Yotsuba & Benjamin!
21:55 / 20.09.08
Smart play. Every national printer I've ever used has ended up with a nice box of generic looking shit on my porch.
 
  
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