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Breaking the Fourth Wall in comics

 
 
Glenn Close But No Cigar
15:33 / 30.11.07
The literary critic Vincent Canby describes the fourth wall as 'that invisible screen that forever separate the audience from the stage'. As with the stage, so the comics page. However, numerous comics writers have had their creations break the fourth wall, most commonly by showing an awareness of the fact that they are in a comic. Examples in Marvel / DC comics include Byrne's She-Hulk, Nicieza's Deadpool, Loeb's Emperor Joker, Giffen's Ambush Bug, and (in a usually more sophisticated manner), a whole bunch of Morrison's creations, among them Animal Man and Jack Frost. This also seems a fairly common device in newspaper strip cartoons (back in the '50s, Peanuts' Schroeder complained that he should 'put in for a transfer to a new comic strip', and Doonesbury has used it since the '70s), Herge's Tintin, Sim's Cerebus, and even Archie and Roger the Dodger ('great dodge, eh readers?!). I'm sure you can and will think of many more.

Some possible points for discussion:

1) What is the first example of breaking the fourth wall in comics?

2) What are the consequences of this in different types of comics, or by different characters within the same comics universe? If Doonesbury's Slackmeyer breaks the fourth wall, how is that different from Deadpool doing so, or Superman at the end of Moore's 'Whatever Happened to the Man of Tomorrow?, or Promethea?

3) Is it something you love? Hate? Are frankly a bit bored by?

4) What does it feel like as a reader when the fourth wall is broken? Do you feel rudely yanked out of the action? Do you feel astonished to be addressed by, say, Garfield, or Alexander Luthor Junior? Do you feel a bit ho hum?

5) How does the use of this device in comics differ from that in theatre, art, cinema, the novel etc? What does this tell us about comics?
 
 
PatrickMM
16:21 / 30.11.07
Maybe it's just because the medium's two best writers, Morrison and Moore, use it so often, but I feel like comics is the ideal medium for breaking the fourth wall. Direct address in cinema is usually used as more of a comic tool, and I'm not sure that something like Animal Man would work as well if he found out that he was part of a TV show. I feel like in cinema/TV, we're on some level always aware of the fictional nature, and finding out this is actually an actor performing a scene wouldn't be as shocking.

In mainstream superhero comics in particular, breaking the fourth wall has an added power because these stories have been around so long. The DC or Marvel Universes, and their characters, are in some ways realer than any of the individual writers, so puncturing that reality, as in Animal Man, is shocking. There's no actor playing Animal Man, and no individual writer responsible for his creation, so when he finds out that his reality is fictional, it is legitimately surprising.

In recent years, both Moore and Morrison have pretty much obliterated the fourth wall and integrated the reader into the narrative. Promethea and The Invisibles both break through fiction as a way of trying to change your way of thinking. Jack tells us our sentence is up at the end of the book and it feels perfectly natural. Those books are explicitly philosophical works and designed to produce a change in the reader. I think that's a wonderful and fresh use of fourth wall breaking techniques. To them, there is no fourth wall, it's more like looking into a parallel dimension.

My favorite example of fourth wall breaking recently is Zatanna #4, and the amazing panel where she reaches out to us for strength. That issue is just brilliant, and I think everyone reading it reached out and touched her hand. Does that mean it's not her fourth wall that's broken, but ours?
 
 
Dan Fish - @Fish1k
17:21 / 30.11.07
In Shazam Archives Vol 4, in the Bulletman story in Master Comics 21, Captain Marvel receives a note which reads as follows:

"YOU'D BETTER KEEP YOUR SNOOPING NOSE IN WHIZ COMICS, CAPTAIN MARVEL.. BECAUSE I'M COMING OVER THERE NEXT MONTH TO BEAT YOUR BRAINS OUT! I'LL GET BULLET-MAN LATER. Captain Nazi"

Sure enough, in the next part of the crossover, Captain Marvel has his brains beaten out*.

(*not really).
 
 
Aertho
17:33 / 30.11.07
I just deleted a reply about the Zatanna miniseries. The whole thing is a seeming break of the fourth wall. I say seeming, because she doesn't really.

The entire story is being told to us from her perspective, she's narrating directly to us, when we realize that at the end she was only ever telling Etta Candy her adventure. The scene where she senses, and then reaches out to us is really just trying to contact the Seven Unknown Men.

It's a terrific use of sleight of hand in a story about a stage-magician super-hero. We're only ever going to be her audience, no matter how much she "involves" us in the act.
 
 
Phex: Dorset Doom
18:06 / 30.11.07
There's actually a rather awesome piece of fourth-wall-breakery in, of all places, Infinite Crisis. In the sixth issue Alexander Luthor is busy trying to find Earth Prime, which, as you may know, is here. He's trying to find us. When he does he faces the reader and, without a trace of the panic Animal Man* exhibited when he faced his readers a decade and a half before. Luthor stares right at us and says 'You'. In the next panel his hands are reaching towards us- not for a metafictional high five as they are in Zatanna #4, but to strangle us. There's a lot of problems with Infinite Crisis and everything it spawned, but that moment isn't amongst them.
 
 
Phex: Dorset Doom
18:11 / 30.11.07
(The asterisk in the post above was supposed to result in a mid-length rant about Buddy Baker abandoning the family he moved heaven and Earth and Earth-Prime for in Morrison's Animal Man run for space-nookie with Starfire, but now isn't the time or place)
 
 
Hallo, Paper Spaceboy
18:43 / 30.11.07
It's a terrific use of sleight of hand in a story about a stage-magician super-hero. We're only ever going to be her audience, no matter how much she "involves" us in the act.

Well, at the brilliance of that particular comic, for me, hinges on the fact that the Seven Unknown Men tell Zee that she's inbetween, inside a "dimensional lock" - the closest she'll ever get to breaking the fourth wall. They acknowledge the attempt of it but admit that they're all still locked within a page for all the "awareness."

I'm enjoying the Fourth Wall-breaking asides in Casanova, because of how simply Shakespearean they are; addressing the reader unbeknowst the surrounding characters. I like, as well, that Fraction and his artists place them outside the panels, in the gutter, where the Fourth Wall would hypothetically be the thinnest.
 
 
grant
18:49 / 30.11.07
*As we learned in issue #45, faithful readers! - Editor.
 
 
Hallo, Paper Spaceboy
18:52 / 30.11.07
At least the editors know they're in a comic book.
 
 
Imaginary Mongoose Solutions
04:17 / 03.12.07
I hope I'm not breaking etiquette by doing this, but I'd respond to the Zatanna vs. the 4th wall, and instead of paraphrasing myself, I'd just like to quote from a paper I gave at the International Conference for the Fantastic in the Arts. I'd ordinarily just throw a link up to the article, but the publisher hasn't actually published it yet. Not trying to be self-congratulatory by any means, just not wanting to have to paraphrase myself.

This was originally presented before the Seven Unknown Men were confirmed in interview as 7 DC writers who wrote themselves into the comics.

"However, Zatanna in her desperation gets an idea, “If I could just reach out through all of this weird machinery, this scaffolding stuff that is holding all of our lives together…” and proceeds to reach up. In a striking scene, the desperate Zatanna reaches out to whoever is out there to help her. Her hand pressed against the page like someone on the other side of a pane of glass. She’s aware of the many eyes watching her and the hands holding her universe… in other words she reaches out to the audience. In a series that focused on a quest for forgiveness and absolution of guilt, she reached out to the final arbiters of such things: the reader.

And the next scene, showing Zatanna in a space that is described as “a place where people like us can interact with people like you” gives the reader no illusions that she has somehow entered into a liminal space between the text and the reader. It is through that blind appeal for forgiveness to the reader (although the mechanisms of that appeal are left vague, just as the action between the panels is left to the reader to construct) that she transgresses into this space where other agents, perhaps representing the creators, remove her nemesis from the story and allow her to make peace with her father.
Through the direct appeal of the character to the audience for help and to some extent, forgiveness, Morrison and Sook force the audience to acknowledge the space, the “fifth gutter” between themselves and the text. Furthermore, by placing some of the action in that supposedly negative space (just as Moore and Williams did with Agent Bruehguel) they invite the reader to begin to read and decode that space just like any other comic book gutter.

Also, by structuring this in the form of a plea to the audience, the creators create a situation where at least the illusion of the audience’s participation in the text can be created. This, to an extent, makes the reader more aware of the comic book reading skills that normally remain an invisible process to most readers and encourages them to begin using some of those same skills that allow the audience to navigate the traditional gutters, on the gutter separating them from the text."


In hindsight, while Zatanna doesn't actually become aware of the 4th wall -- her having transgressed into the "fith gutter" -- she still becomes aware of the readers as a presence. Also, this scene becomes more important to the Seven Soldiers when Zatanna unites the Seven Soldiers, once again reaching out to the audience, this time seemingly completing a circut of attention established in her own book.

Also, quite arguably the spell she casts is meant to include the reader as the "secret seventh soldier" given the context, the art, and the historical prescient of there being a secret member of the team.

I DO think that comics are better equipped for 4th wall breakage than many artistic mediums, which is why so many creators within comics (Moore, Gaiman, Morrison, Rushkoff, even Geoff Johns and the artists they work with) are drawn to establishing the illusion of metatextual awareness in their works. Reading comics is a vastly interactive and interpretive process and within that process are many tools that can be used to challenge traditional author/audience relationships.
 
 
matsya
09:38 / 07.12.07
saw a kind of 4th-wall breakage in an episode of Dreams of the Rarebit Fiend, the comic by Windsor McCay (what - 20s? 30s?). The shtick is weird stuff happens each strip and the last panel is someone saying "damnit i'll never eat rarebit before bed again i get such weird dreams" (rarebit being grilled cheese on toast, so it's a cheese dreams thing).

The strip in question has a guy sitting there getting covered in ink spots telling the artist off for being too messy.

and now that i think of it, there's an early betty boop cartoon (ie animation) that has betty talking to max fleischer as he draws her and the room around her, i think. that's not comics as such, but it KIND OF is maybe...

as for more contemporary versions, you've always got she-hulk - which got a bit yawnsome.

and isn't there stuff in scott pilgrim that does it? like when people say "so how did you meet" and the response given is "read the last volume, fool" or some such?
 
 
This Sunday
10:45 / 07.12.07
Masamune Shirow does a lot - a whole lot - of Fourth Wall violating. There's the stuff straight from the characters' mouths (e.g. Dominion's 'If this were a serious comic, you'd be dead' or 'Stupid artist drew this helmet too small for my head!'*) or through his use of copious notes, via an appendix or sidebar or all through the margins, referencing his artistic shorthands, commenting directly on how a scene should have been X but is instead Y and giving reasons or simply excusing himself by preference, and then there's the footnoting for how the story differs from or violates reality. Yes, lots of people use footnotes, but his become a part of the story, they sometimes become so prevalent, especially in Ghost in the Shell 2 supercede the narrative of the protagonist by making it a direct dialogue, almost, with the reader, rather than simply providing a detail or accentuating the protagonist's narrative.

I reminds me of a slightly neurotic version of the wallflower-esque narrator from Don Juan or On the Road with a proclivity to technical specs and an awareness he's making a fiction.

Has my sleep-deprived excitement got the better of me, or is this making sense - and somewhat unique-seeming - to anyone else?


*All quotes suspect, but nearly correct; I haven't the books on me to reference.
 
 
Haus of Mystery
22:34 / 07.12.07
Ambush Bug's continual fourth wall violation reached absurd levels with 'The Ambush Bug Nothing Special' wherein the main villain was Julius Schwartz's disembodied head!
 
 
This Sunday
23:48 / 07.12.07
Connected and not-connected, but this seems the best place to ask: James Sturm's Unstable Molecules, how did the metatextual aspect work for/with people? They played the this is the real story button pretty hard, both in-text as as part of the advertising campaign, and there wasn't the level of winking-at-the-reader that similar projects usually have. Was is intended to actually snow anyone, or is it just a textual game, intended to shine the focus-light right on the artifice of the story?
 
 
Hallo, Paper Spaceboy
23:57 / 07.12.07
Ambush Bug in general breaks the fourth wall - it is, in fact, his raison d'etre, I'd have to say. His presence in a given story (like the episode of 52 where he's a member of the temporary JLA) automatically renders the fourth wall a loose and fluid film rather than something more traditional, like brickwork. A story where Irwin appeared but failed to break the fourth wall would be - alien and bizarre. I wonder if it could be done effectively.

Unstable Molecules -- does that count as fourth-wall breaking? It's metatextual, sure, but. It's been a while and I can't quite remember how the texts interacted with each other...
 
 
Hallo, Paper Spaceboy
00:05 / 08.12.07
...which doesn't even answer your question. It was played very straight-faced, but I would tend to favour the "textual game" theory.
 
  
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