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zedoktar
19:10 / 12.10.07
Since I broke the rules inadvertantly in my last thread, and pissed off the usual lonely angry dorks, I decided to try and get it right this time. After all, I came to Barbelith for a reason, and it wasn't to annoy, nor to waggle my digital dick in your faces.

So, heres the premise: suggest music for someone looking to here something new. Include a description and/or review as you see fit. No real focus, just stuff you'd reccomend. Once again, I shall start.

Solar Anus - Japanese psychedelic doom. Epically awsome.
Solar Anus Myspace

Grimskunk - Montreal prog-punk. Better then most punk if not all. Got me into punk and weird music when I was 14, working in a radio station. I reccomend Meltdown.
Grimskunk myspace

Salmonella Dub - New Zealand dub. The absolute best dub around. I can't even pick an album. I rank them on par with King Tubby, and Prince Far-I.
Salmonella Dub site

Eloy - Kraut rock. Similar to Pink Floyd's era between Syd and DSOTM. I reccomend Colors, Dawn, or their project Alice in Wounderland.
Eloy with samples

The Coup - hip-hop all about the Communist revolution, selling crack, and enjoying life. Fun music with a political edge that doesn't take itself too seriously. Laughlovefuck off "Pick a Bigger Weapon" is one of my faves.
The Coup

cLOUDDEAD - psychedelic hip-hop experimental weirdness. Highly reccomend everything they have.
cLOUDDEAD myspace

Brant Bjork - former drummer for Kyuss and played with Fu Manchu briefly. He calls his stuff Low Desert Punk. Its a more chill style of Desert Rock. I reccomend Local Angel, and Somera Sol, but its all pretty good. He has played solo, and as Brant Bjork & The Operators, and currently with The Bros.
Brant's myspace
and Brant Bjork & The Bros


I could do this all day, but I want to hear what you, the Barbeloids lurking deep in the series of pipes, would reccomend for the musically curious.
 
 
petunia
19:17 / 12.10.07
After all, I came to Barbelith for a reason, and it wasn't to annoy, nor to waggle my digital dick in your faces.

Seems fair enough, but preceded by

...pissed off the usual lonely angry dorks...

it becomes somewhat confused.

I mean, if you're going to lie, try not to disprove the lie in the same paragraph; it's just poor etiquette.
 
 
zedoktar
19:53 / 12.10.07
I wasn't lying, just being petty cause I can't do it in the original thread. I got my digs in, I'm done now.

Do you have anything to contribute?
 
 
COG
20:24 / 12.10.07
Barbelith is dead.
 
 
ONLY NICE THINGS
20:36 / 12.10.07
No, the tiger that zedoktar saw is alive.
 
 
STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK
20:37 / 12.10.07
Liszt?
 
 
petunia
05:24 / 13.10.07
Do you have anything to contribute?

'Me? Cause trouble?! But aren't you causing trouble by saying that?! Hmmm?!'

God, you're that person, aren't you?
 
 
ONLY NICE THINGS
15:59 / 13.10.07
OK.

zedoktar, I'm sure we all appreciate the added effort you put into this thread. Unfortunately, as you may have noticed, trying to get a "dig" in at the people who, quite rightly, pulled you up on your last thread has made people who read this think "wow, what a douche. I don't see any reason to contribute to this douche's thread", and so you have strangled your own thread at birth. If you had not tried to score a point against people who are smarter than you, and more relevantly better and more valued contributors to Barbelith, this thread might have a future. Because you did, it doesn't. Let's see if you can learn from that.

Meanwhile - mods, lock again? This isn't going to go anywhere useful. Maybe zedoktar will do better next time.
 
 
Spatula Clarke
17:32 / 13.10.07
This is no better than a list thread, though. Am I the only one who sees that? It's just a bunch of highly random links.

It's shit. There's no need for yet another one. How many shit, say-nothing threads do you need?
 
 
ONLY NICE THINGS
17:54 / 13.10.07
Well, the next one might be down to one band and more detail. You never know...
 
 
Feverfew
22:31 / 13.10.07
I'm an idealist. I'm also an optimist. I would like to believe, therefore, that there is some redeeming intent somewhere behind starting up a thread in reply to the locking of the previous thread, deep down. I'd like, if possible, to see it as a an act of contrition, and a chance to re-present the views you wanted to previously in a better context, with more information.

I wouldn't expect such a post to start thus, then;

Since I broke the rules inadvertantly in my last thread, and pissed off the usual lonely angry dorks, I decided to try and get it right this time. After all, I came to Barbelith for a reason, and it wasn't to annoy, nor to waggle my digital dick in your faces.

zedoktar, you didn't 'break the rules'. You posted a list thread, which is something people don't cotton to round here. It's fine suggesting things you think people should listen to. If it sounds interesting, yes, I would personally take the time out to google it myself. However, it's impossible to pick out the signal from the noise when there's so much noise, as in your first thread, wherein you suggested around a hundred bands. All good and dandy, but do people need to search for Pink Floyd? Or the Grateful Dead?

Your reply to people's views on this is as petulant as your first paragraph here. C'mon, Care Bears? As I say, I love having music suggested to search for. I treasure it. I don't treasure massive lists, and I certainly have no space in my heart to treasure the phrases 'lonely angry dorks' or 'waggle my digital dick'.

People have said what I'm aiming to say in shorter and punchier ways, but; please, by all means, recommend music. It's just nicer and better somehow if it comes with more than a short precĂ­s, or, worse, nothing, recommending it. It's not that people want you to present a dossier on everything - but lists, as a rule, suck, and look like you may be trying to prove something.

So do prove something. Prove me wrong, and stop acting like you've been told off by Teh Sekrit Masters of Barbelith, and especially stop getting your 'digs' in, because it does you no favours.

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On-topic, I would like to recommend Jay Chou, an album of whose I recently picked up as a random purchase. The musical style varies, but when it burns, it really burns. You can see a few videos here, here, here and, hopefully, here, although I may have to review those links tomorrow having slept to make sure they're working.
 
 
zedoktar
17:29 / 15.10.07
Why does everyone seem to think I'm trying to prove something? Unconscious projection? Baseless assumption? I dunno.
I just thought it would be cool to have one thread devoted to the premise of a massive list of music from anyone and everyone, with brief descriptions as need be, for us to dip into without getting into a huge essay or big review.
Just random music for when you want to explore new random music. No drama, you know? Just music, without heaps and piles of text, however well written, to dig through.

I just don't quite see where all the presumptive weirdness is coming from. Admittedly there were a fair few pretty unnecessary bands in the original list, but you never know, it might just inspire someone to look into a classic band they've never bothered with or heard before.

That was the whole idea, to get the 'Lith to present an array of music that one could look at, and maybe go "hey, I've never listened to them before" and expand ones musical horizons. Its not like I go posting lists all over Barbelith, nor would in future. Music aside, theres no other topic that would really suit a thread of that kind.
 
 
zedoktar
17:41 / 15.10.07
Oh, and on topic again:

Gotan Project
Tango chillout dub grooves with hints of hip-hop and jazz. Their Paris based but the members hail from Argentina and Switzerland as well as France.
video
Myspace
 
 
Spaniel
17:55 / 15.10.07
Since I broke the rules inadvertantly in my last thread, and pissed off the usual lonely angry dorks, I decided to try and get it right this time.

I think much of the "presumptive weirdness" is based on this statement, which, frankly, gives me the impression that at best you cling onto some rather outmoded ideas about folk who frequent Internet message boards, and at worst that you're a fucking rude prick.

Stop being defensive, stop making unfounded assumptions about people you don't know, listen to people's criticisms, try to learn from them and you might have a future around here. Continue to post more arse (and your last post was another bout of arse, I'm afraid) and I imagine you'll your stay here will continue to be a drain on everyone's patience, including your own.
 
 
Spaniel
17:56 / 15.10.07
Oh, and it's not about breaking the rules, it's about respecting the effort other people put into this forum.
 
 
My Mom Thinks I'm Cool
18:01 / 15.10.07
Music aside, theres no other topic that would really suit a thread of that kind.

except maybe lists of books, lists of comics, lists of movies, lists of...everything we have fora for.

I think the best thing to do would be to make use of the "what are you listening to right now?" thread, which is a bit like this, only longer and better, IMO.

Unconscious projection? Baseless assumption? I dunno.

they're kind of like baseless assumptions, only not baseless, and not really assumptions. actually, no, they are assumptions, because we're Assuming that you meant what you said in your post, where you said that you wanted this thread to make up for the other one, and then called people angry dorks.
 
 
Regrettable Juvenilia
08:55 / 16.10.07
The Coup - hip-hop all about the Communist revolution, selling crack, and enjoying life. Fun music with a political edge that doesn't take itself too seriously.

This is the worst description of The Coup I have ever read.
 
 
Closed for Business Time
09:16 / 16.10.07
But hey! It's content right?
 
 
rizla mission
09:42 / 16.10.07
Tango chillout dub grooves with hints of hip-hop and jazz.

As an aside re: modern day useage of music terminology, isn't it funny how "dub", "grooves", "hip-hop" and "jazz" are all inherently good things, and hell, I have nothing against a bit of tango either I guess, but lump them together in one sentence via a guy on the internet who uses the term "chillout", and I immediately feel my life would be better served by fantasising about attacking people with screwdrivers and listening to non-stop Minor Threat than by listening to whatever the hell this music he thus describes is...?

Also see: "Acid Jazz". I like acid. I like jazz. What the hell went wrong??
 
 
illmatic
10:02 / 16.10.07
There was one brief moment in the late 80s when "Acid Jazz" seemed deeply exciting, Rizla. I remember it well - IDJ JAzz danders at Dingwalls on a Sunday, the digging in the crates approach to rare groove expanding into Jazz, insane funky records like "A Bad Donato" , the smoothness and groove of the Mizzell Brothers and Donald Byrd - I remember it well. It really brings back some vivid memories for me when I start thinking about that stuff.

But nowadays, yep, I agree with you.
 
 
The Natural Way
12:26 / 18.10.07
Galliano....

The Brand New Heavies...

..Urrggh.....
 
 
haus of fraser
12:52 / 18.10.07
So, heres the premise: suggest music for someone looking to here something new. Include a description and/or review as you see fit. No real focus, just stuff you'd reccomend. Once again, I shall start.

We already had similar threads, and it was universally agreed they don't add anything to the forum- why not talk in length about each of the bands mentioned.

Lists are boring and conversations tend to get muddied and muddled- and eventually non existant when we try and write about all our favourite bands- as you said no real focus...

Thread make hulk MAD!!!
 
  
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