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the head melt that is stephen baxter

 
 
hanabius yamamura
18:28 / 27.02.02
i have recently discovered the joy of stephen baxter...

time ships , time , space , deep future ... i await the paperback of origin with baited breath ...

any ponderings ?

 
 
Mourne Kransky
18:45 / 27.02.02
Reading my very first of his - Time. Have I got them out of order then? Loving Sheena 5!
 
 
hanabius yamamura
18:53 / 27.02.02
you've not got them out of order ...time is the first in the manifold trilogy ...of which space and origin are the latter parts .

time ships is the 'sequel' to h.g.wells time machine ... fabulous book

time.......fantastic book ... sheena 5 .. cruithne asteroid ... the children ... ace !



just wait till you read space....




[ 27-02-2002: Message edited by: hana_bi ]
 
 
Mourne Kransky
19:39 / 27.02.02
OK, I'll wait then...

Reid Malenfant is such a rubbish name though.

Baxter "co-wrote" something with A C Clarke which I'm sure I liked. Was it the wormhole tv thing?
 
 
hanabius yamamura
20:53 / 27.02.02
it is not a rubbish name ...

anyway , was it riechter 10 that they co-wrote ? or was it that book about guns being 'disarmed' ....

names aside , the ideas put up in the books are open to much discussion in a variety of public houses etc........ good stuff

 
 
Spatula Clarke
12:14 / 28.02.02
I've read both Time and Space. Good, hardish SF, with some pretty neat little ideas in them. I was a little disappointed with Space, though. The constant jumping between characters and tales became slightly annoying after a while.

Didn't realise the third part was out. Must buy. Are his other, non-Space/Time trilogy books similar in style?
 
 
Bear
12:54 / 28.02.02
Wow a topic in the books forum that I actually know a little about what a shock

Yeah Time is excellent, how could you not love Sheena...

Anyone read Traces? its a collection of short stories, some of them are really good - its mostly him playing with time - for example what would have happended if we'd achieved space travel in the 1800's...

I'll probably buy "Space" at Kingscross for the journey home next month...or maybe Schrodinger's cat but I doubt I could handle that on the train
 
 
hanabius yamamura
09:44 / 02.03.02
the third part of the manifold trilogy ( origin ) is only out in hard back ...but out none the less.

haven't read traces (sounds good though ) but have read moonseed ... a fabulous book .... particularly scary if you live north of the border ! quite similar in the hard sci-fi sort of way .

schroedinger's cat , if it's the one i'm thinking of , is a bit of a head-melter ... seem to remember it was good though ...
 
 
Traz
11:28 / 02.03.02
The topmost thread in the Books Forum just vanished...I'm moving this thread to the top to see if that drags my thread back into the normal time-space continuum...

Warp Nine...Engage.
 
 
Mourne Kransky
08:36 / 10.03.02
Finally about to get into Space. Time was excellent. Lots of surprises, lots of cephalopod cosmonauts, lots of impenetrable quantum gravity theory. A head-melt indeed. And, as in all the best books, humanity deserves all it gets.
 
 
gentleman loser
18:50 / 10.03.02
What Baxter book would you recommend to read first?

I'm curious because half of the people I know who read SF love his stuff. The other half loathe him with a passion. I've never read any of his work.
 
 
hanabius yamamura
08:48 / 04.04.02

apologies for a somewhat tardy reply ... been off line for a while !

anyway , i would recommend either TIME ( good hard sci-fi , but excellent story ) , MOONSEED ( really .... heavy !! ) or TIME SHIPS ( a total head-melt that is SO worth persevering with ... )

enjoy
 
 
Spatula Clarke
15:59 / 21.09.02
So then, Origin. Enjoyable enough as a novel in its own right, yet deeply disappointing as a climax to a trilogy. For a time, and as with Space, the chopping and changing between narratives is annoying; just as you find yourself getting drawn into one character’s story, you’re abruptly yanked out of it and inserted into another. Then, as you start becoming engrossed in that one, it happens again. The pacing seems off for a great deal of the novel – the initial events are described with ridiculous haste and absolutely no time is spent on character exposition - although this becomes less of an issue with the introduction of Manekatopokanemahedo and Hugh McCann (the chunk of story dealing with the latter almost having the ambience of a Verne story).

Most frustrating, the promised resolution of the Fermi paradox is hugely underwhelming and pretty much given away on the very first page of the book. It’s a cheap cop-out and creates the impression that Baxter suddenly realised that he didn’t have an ending, an impression that’s reinforced by the speed with which he wraps the story up. After so much build up, spread over three novels, a few paragraphs given over to an explanation can’t fail to be inadequate. You’re expecting a big bang, but get given a slightly limp squelch.

As I say, enjoyable enough, but… bah.

The series' coda, Phase Space, is currently sitting on a shelf waiting to be read. Depressingly, on first glance it seems to be nothing more than a hastily cobbled together collection of short, unrelated stories.
 
 
STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK
07:41 / 22.09.02
Gentleman Loser- yeah, that's exactly why I've always been reluctant to read his stuff. (Having said that, it also put me off David Brin, and when I read him I was most impressed). From what people are saying here, though, I may have to check Baxter out (just to pass the time while I wait till FUCKING NOVEMBER OR SOMETHING for the new Ken McLeod.)
 
 
Tamayyurt
22:15 / 22.10.02
You don't know how happy I am to have found this thread! I've just finished Time and loved it but I was really disappointed by the abrupt ending. I thought Baxter was leaving right when things were starting to get strange and great. At least now I know it's being continued in other books.

I like the jumping narration but I have a short attention span and that made for a quicker read (as opposed to looong chapters about the same people (or squid).
 
 
hanabius yamamura
09:19 / 25.10.02
have to agree with e. randy re conclusion to the manifold trilogy ... i was left feeling underwhelmed and disappointed by the somewhat hasty and limp conclusion ... ~1500 pages of very enjoyable story let down by a slightly damp ' squid ' ( pun intended - NOT a spoiler ) of an ending ...

hey ho - the journey there was enjoyable none the less !!!

now reading ' light of other days ' which he co-wrote with arthur c. clarke - which is actually very good!!

after that , i may venture into the realm of ' phase space '
 
 
hanabius yamamura
19:05 / 09.12.03
after that , i may venture into the realm of ' phase space '

... and so, 14 months later, i finally plunge into 'phase space' thus the 'bump'

... initial impressions are encouraging with quite a intriguing prologue - which hopefully won't turn out to be a clumsy way of tying all the 23 stories together and nothing else ... although, i get the impression that these may be short stories he wrote before the manifold trilogy as almost 'dry runs' of some of his ideas for those three books ...

'time' (tongue firmly in cheek there) will tell ... ... ...
 
 
hanabius yamamura
07:39 / 23.12.03
... and that would be that re 'phase space' ... finito

... and, to be honest, i enjoyed it more than 'origin' - overall just far more enjoyable with some really good story ideas in it and a groovy ending that leaves you pondering things mind you, having said that, it may be that, after the disappointment of 'origin', my expectations were lower and i got a pleasant surprise ... enjoyable, though, definitely enjoyable

 
 
onorthocrasi
04:11 / 24.12.03
i enjoyed the manifold trilogy a lot.

Anyone here read Evolution?
I was wondering if i should pick it up.
 
  
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