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Attendi: search engine for conversations

 
 
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16:03 / 29.09.07
Hi, Barbelith. I know there's some interest here in searchable conversation and tagging, because we've talked about that as something that would make Barbelith's functionality cooler. There's social software called Attendi that I'm guardedly excited about that aims to make your conversations on the site searchable by tags. So you can quickly and easily find people who are knowledgeable about, say, banana hybridization and engage them in conversation, or read through their previous conversations to see if your question is answered there.

This has been called a search engine for your brain, to the great delight of some point-missing commentators who got very excited about privacy. Only what you do on the site is searchable, and the whole point of talking about things on the site is to make that information public. It will not in fact read your mind, or your blog unless you deliberately link your blog. It will not go through your email or your IM chat log.

So I'm trying it out, partly because I think it might be useful in museums (it's a long story), and I want to encourage a lot of people with stuff to say about basically any topic to join. I've got five invites, so pm me with your email address if you want one.
 
 
Triplets
16:15 / 29.09.07
Will PM you in a second, Zippid. As someone who has, essentially, been doing this via google for years this is incredibly interesting. I'm always searching forum and discussion sites, out for grist for the brain-mill.
 
 
Saturn's nod
16:51 / 29.09.07
I've looked at the site and I'm not totally clear about what it's offering.

Is it a chat engine that heavily indexes and archives all the chats on the site?

Is there any tie to identity or any mechanism for verifying claims of expertise?
 
 
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23:59 / 29.09.07
Nope; as always it's "buyer beware."

Because of the way posts are mined for tags, it can be easy to see if someone is faking their expertise—the posts are likely to be incoherent keyword soups. However, it doesn't stop people copy-pasting wikipedia articles. That's also easy to detect, however. In the end, you're safest comparison shopping, accumulating advice from multiple sources and seeing what matches and what startlingly contrasts. I don't think any website can provide a foolproof system for establishing people's identities and credentials, and efforts to do so tend to go awry. However, all one's posts and conversations are linked back to their site identity, so people maintain a consistent identity, which one would think could help a little.

As to how it works, there are currently three ways to add content to the site, and more to add tags to your profile: You can write a post, more like a blog post than a message board post; you can have a chat with another user; you can allow the site to index your blog. To add tags to the profile you can do it directly, or you can paste in the URL of a page that has a lot of text about your topic on it. The tagging system also mines your posts and conversations. Altogether this process is supposed to create a tag cloud showing what topics you discuss most often. From that, users can make inferences about who is knowledgeable about certain subjects and how heavily involved they are in that topic.

Whether there is yet a safeguard to keep someone from just posting a text box full of the phrase "molecular gastronomy" over and over again and manipulating the tag cloud that way, I don't know. I suspect, though, that that wouldn't ultimately be very successful.
 
 
Saturn's nod
05:45 / 30.09.07
Hmm. It sounds very interesting. I'm mostly thinking about it as part of work - science. The research councils like us to do public communication of science and it sounds like a good way to do that. If I had to say what I'm expert in, then the obvious thing is what I've spent my working hours learning about for years.

But then I am also interested in other things, more the stuff I tend to talk about on Barbelith: sustainable futures, feminism/anti-oppression movements, functional mysticism. I guess I would have to work out whether I want those tied to an identity which I was linking up with my work face - or perhaps they allow multiple suits?
 
  
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