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Genpets

 
 
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05:26 / 01.09.07
Genpets.com

FAQ Excerpt:
Are Genpets Real animals? How?
Genpets are living, breathing mammals. Bio-Genica is a Bioengineering Company that has combined, and modified existing DNA to create the Genpets lineup. Genpets have blood, bones, and muscle; they will bleed if you cut them, and die if mistreated just like any other animal. The electronic components are only in the packages and are for basic life support, outside of the packages the Genpets are wholly organic.

Genpets are packaged like toys though.
Genpets are designed to be sold on retail store shelves, not traditional pet stores. This is why they are packaged in plastic.

How are Genpets made?
The original prototype and breeding Genpets were created using a process called "Zygote Micro Injection" Thereafter the Genpets are grown in assisted breeding lab farms. Zygote Micro Injection is quickly becoming a favourable method to combine DNA, or to insert certain proteins from different species. Most notably it was used in 1997 to splice mice with bioluminescent jellyfish (link) and has since been used to create glowing rabbits, pigs, fish, and monkeys (link). Since then, human DNA has been injected into chimpanzees, spider into sheep, and now, Genpets have arrived.

... more Genpets FAQ



I'm not going to try to lead a discussion cause I dont have steady internet and won't be around to follow up. Don't know how I stumbled on this... But needless to say, I think it's disgusting and don't see how this is going to be accepted in the marketplace when we are still arguing about stem cells. The idea of prepackaged, predispositoned, growth stunted, yet LIVING organisms takes leaps and bounds past any ethical debate I've ever even imagined. Not to mention being an incredible waste of resources next to things like cancer. Just looking at the pictures...and it hits me. It's not just a money-hungry Mad Scientist idea waiting to cash in...he already crossed that line and nothing stopped him.
 
 
minus9
06:14 / 01.09.07
It's called art, and it is there to stretch us to think about where science is going.

See http://www.powerhousemuseum.com/freeradicals/?p=116

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(Also rather reminiscent of Bonsai Kitten, which was humour.)
 
 
Red Concrete
10:25 / 02.09.07
The GloFish might be the closest real example to this. They are illegal in the European Union and Canada, and California, apparently.

That anyone would believe the GenPet to be real says two things to me. That scientific knowledge is maybe a little lacking in the general public. What I mean is that this is actually a lot more advanced than my understanding of what the technology is capable of. That's not an easy thing to resolve - the best one can hope for is that anyone with a strong opinion on the field will try to inform themselves.

Secondly there is a pretty strong "those evil soulless scientists, what will they do next?!" meme going around which is strong enough to blind people to the obvious grotesqueness of sentences such as:

Do Genpets bite?
Genpets should not bite, however Bio-Genica does sell the tooth remover kit.



Not to mention being an incredible waste of resources next to things like cancer. Just looking at the pictures...and it hits me. It's not just a money-hungry Mad Scientist idea waiting to cash in...he already crossed that line and nothing stopped him.

I think something would probably stop them. Ignoring for a second the laws on genetic biosafety, I think animal welfare regulation should probably try to preempt this sort of development.
 
 
Princess
19:08 / 02.09.07
http://www.allerca.com/ is the website of Allerca, who market genetically engineered cats for people with allergies. Not quite a genpet though.
 
 
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05:45 / 03.09.07
ha, well they got me! suppose this should be an art topic then?
 
 
Evil Scientist
09:50 / 03.09.07
I think that this thread could move onto the general topic of genetically engineered companion animals if it is to stay here.

If it doesn't then I'm happy to agree to a future request to move it.
 
 
Alex's Grandma
13:08 / 03.09.07
Isn't it slightly misleading to describe the Allerca cats as genetically engineered? The impression I get is that they've been selectively bred (admittedly using what sounds like new technology) rather than altered on a DNA level.*

* This is how I'd define 'genetically engineered' in any case, but perhaps there's a better way of putting it?
 
 
Closed for Business Time
14:55 / 03.09.07
Quoting from their website:

The ALLERCA research and development team placed the company in a unique position to produce the world's first scientifically-proven hypoallergenic cat.

A glycoprotein, Fel d 1, secreted by the sebaceous glands, is the major cat allergen. This allergen is found in the fur, saliva, urine, mucous, salivary glands, and hair roots of the cat. The Fel d 1 gene present in normal cats is responsible for the production of this protein.


Starting with proprietary genetic testing technologies, the ALLERCA team began by focusing on the particular gene that produces the Fel d 1 glycoprotein. The process uses gene sequencing to detect naturally occurring genetic divergences in cats. ALLERCA then targeted those divergences that could potentially produce kittens with a change in the structure of the Fel d 1 allergen produced by the gene. Using sophisticated bioinformatics to manage feline breeding programs, the final stage resulted in cats with a divergent gene that produces a different version of the Fel D 1 protein - and a GD cat that no longer triggers the autoimmune system of people allergic to cats.


The next stage was to conduct controlled experiments exposing volunteers with known feline allergies to both ALLERCA GD cats and non-GD cats. The results? None of the human subjects exposed to the ALLERCA GD cats reacted in any way. When these same volunteers were exposed to non-GD cats, the subjects demonstrated classic symptoms of a feline allergic reaction, including watery eyes, runny noses, hives and itchy skin.
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So these cats were produced, it seems to me, by selective breeding, and not by introducing genetic material altered or produced outside of the normal reproductive processes of felines - in short, GM it isn't. Here's hoping the breeding did the cats some good as well as their owners.
 
 
Evil Scientist
10:27 / 04.09.07
Isn't it slightly misleading to describe the Allerca cats as genetically engineered?

True. It's probably best that selective breeding is kept distinct, in this case, from genetic modification.

Personally I'd argue that both are forms of genetic engineering, but then I'm a pedantic old sod.
 
 
Dead Megatron
13:16 / 04.09.07
What sucks on Genpets is that they seem to have just that one model. Their competitors (Pokemon Co.) have more than 200 models,some of which can evolve in vivo, no less

I'd totally buy a cat with wings, though
 
 
Happy Dave Has Left
15:35 / 04.09.07
I remember one of the big things in the Jurassic Park book (as opposed to the movie) was the emphasis on the idea of genetically engineered mini-dinosaurs, placid, docile little brontosauruses and velociraptors for your living room carpet. As a 12 year old reading that, I thought it was an ace idea, even when I read the bit about them being engineered to die without special Jurassic Park DinoFood(tm). Now, the idea vaguely horrifies me.

Especially when you can do much the same thing with a few pounds of foam rubber, some motors and clever programming.
 
 
Dead Megatron
18:35 / 04.09.07
It is also a very interesting ethical point: is it more unethical to genetically engineer a new species (or genetically recreate a previously extinct species) if said species is tailored-modified to only eat a product from the same company that made said species - and thus being less likely to "escape" and become an ecological "interference" - than it would be if said species could survive and thrive on its own?

Discuss!
 
 
Aertho
20:17 / 04.09.07
We3?
 
 
lille christina
09:06 / 05.09.07
It's sort of Philip K. Dick. I think it's a hoax, it's too disgusting not to be a hoax. My friend just sent them a "where,how and when can I purchase one"-e-mail. We're waiting for an answer.

Still, don't you think this is some kind of human rights or anti genetic engineering project?
 
 
Spatula Clarke
16:37 / 06.09.07
Did you read the entire thread before posting? Might be an idea.
 
 
CameronStewart
22:47 / 08.09.07
I saw a GenPets display in the window of a small art gallery in Toronto last year, as part of the Nuit Blanche all-night art festival.

They had little motors in them to make them subtly twitch and shift in their packaging. Very obviously fake though.
 
 
Princess
00:52 / 15.09.07
I want to talk about the idea of "packaged life".
It's relevant, but do people want to see it here or somewhere else.

I was thinking an examination of things like Sea Monkeys and Triops. I think it's interesting how these products blur the boundary between pet and toy and I'd like to see what other people think.

New thread?
 
 
grant
12:18 / 15.09.07
Actually, I think that'd be right at home here - prepackaged pets.
 
 
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19:03 / 15.09.07
I had sea monkeys when I was a wee one. They were on my nightstand, and had barely even hatched when I knocked them over while trying to open the stuck drawer. I felt guilty for killing them for ages.
 
 
Princess
19:09 / 15.09.07
My Mom's friend thought their tank was a snow globe. He tiped them upside down and I was very angry at him.

My Triops all died within 3 days. I do not know why.
 
 
Sublime Pathos
05:02 / 20.09.07
Ant farms and to some extent plants should fall into this category. Even then what do we define as "pre-packaged", pet store animals are just stored in bigger boxes. As well I treat my plants as living creatures, each with their own personality.

However on the other end, does wanting a GenPet make me soulless? Or does it ascribe to me a god complex?
 
  
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