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Where is Lovely biscuits

 
 
655321
23:24 / 11.02.02
I have been looking for Lovely biscuits for about a year now and my search has produced no results. I have even tries ordering through the publishers, Oneiros, but none of my e-mails have ever gone through. Does anyone know where i can find this book.
 
 
Trijhaos
00:11 / 12.02.02
Try here. Of course, if that is the publisher's website then I don't know what to tell you.
 
 
Bradley Sands
02:04 / 12.02.02
It's out of print. Try Ebay if you want to pay an exorbitant amount. That's where I got mine.
 
 
Kit-Cat Club
06:59 / 12.02.02
www.bookfinder.com - this site combines catalogues from a number of online second-hand bookshops, & is often the best place to look for obscure stuff.
 
 
Spatula Clarke
07:44 / 13.02.02
I emailed Oneiros about five months back to see if they were still in business, and they were. It took sodding ages for them to reply.
 
 
Pabloboy
10:28 / 13.02.02
I've been there.
Sitting, hoping for a reprint...

Thankfully somebody here on these hallowed messageboards told me that Waterstone's (or was it W.H. Smith?) in Manchester still had copies.

After a few e-mails and phonecalls they sent it to my hous (international shipping was still decent).
I imagine it should be reasonably simple if you live in the UK. Just have it delivered to your nearest branch.
All the aforementioned is said under the assumption that they still have copies left.
And in case you should harbour any geeky feelings, the copy was signed by the Grntster himself.
 
 
Haus about we all give each other a big lovely huggle?
12:00 / 13.02.02
Lovely Bisuits

a) Remains unsold in many shops.

because it is

b) not very good.
 
 
Sauron
18:49 / 13.02.02
[Threadrot] quote:Originally posted by Snoop Knodgey Knodge:
I've got a copy you can borrow/pay me to photocopy for you.


I'll pay for you to photocopy it, just for the pleasure of thinking about you chained to a photocopier you little canine pest. How much would I have to pay for War and Peace? [/Threadrot]

What's the book about anyway?

[ 13-02-2002: Message edited by: Sauron ]
 
 
Haus about we all give each other a big lovely huggle?
21:21 / 13.02.02
Lovely Biscuits is a collection of short stories and two plays, one about Alice'sa subsequent adventures in the LAbyrinth and one about Alesteir Crowley. As with most of Morrison's text work, the ideas are an engaging and at times inventive mishmash of appropriated sources, the writing intermittently dreadful. "...And we're all policemen", the Gideon Starojewski short story, is hopelessly referential and assumes, not entirely surprisingly, a geek audience, but is probably the best thing in it.
 
 
sleazenation
21:25 / 13.02.02
i liked the braile encyclopedia, then again it is very sub books of blood era clive barker.
 
 
GreenMonk
04:28 / 15.02.04
anyone had any luck finding this thing recently? Haven't seen one on amazon or ebay, the publisher's site is a ghost... And that reprint hasn't/didn't happen did it? anyone know how i can pick up a copy?
 
 
STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK
08:38 / 15.02.04
As far as I can tell, the whole "out of print" thing still applies. I asked my old boss (book buyer at FP London) if he could get one through, like, Airlift or anyone, and he said no. No no no no no. I think any remaining copies have been pulped, it's that out of print.
Bugger.
Although I can tell you where to find a couple of pieces from it- "I'm A Policeman" is also in the anthology "Disco 2000", and "HP Lovecraft in Hell" is also in "The Starry Wisdom", Creation Books' Lovecraft-inspired anthology. (May have got those titles wrong... don't have either book to hand.)
 
 
ignatian
12:05 / 15.02.04
there were still copies of LOovely Biscuits in Glasgow Waterstone's the last time I looked. next time i am in there i will check again and pick up a copy for anyone who wants it.
i'll sell you mine if you like. it really is not very good.
 
 
--
01:11 / 16.02.04
Amazingly, I've been able to get some very rare, expensive books (such as Sotos' "Total Abuse") but even I can't find this one, much to my chargrin. It's almost never up for bid on eBay either.

"braille encyclopedia" I got on-line. "And we're all policemen" I got from "Disco 2000". I ordered the Starry Wisdom Lovecraft tribute book from Creation months ago, but I never got it. I really want to read the plays. I actually quite like Morrison's text work.
 
 
captain piss
09:18 / 16.02.04
I like the House where Love Lives. Geekishly I got mine signed by GM when I met him a few years ago, and he scrawled "EAT THE SELF" and an anarchy sign that almost went right through the page
 
 
The Photographer in Blowup
16:32 / 16.02.04
"Braille Encyclopedia" is a dreadful piece of prose. Are all his short-stories like that?

He could learn a lot from Raymond Carver and other short-story writers.
 
 
Ex
16:42 / 16.02.04
Waterstones and Borders will do a search to find out if a text is in any of their branches country-wide - that can wheedle out volumes that haven't been sold or mashed.
Lots of secondhand (and some new) stores do out-of-print books searches, some charge, some don't. I've had luck with these (finding Thurber's The Thirteen Clocks - unthinkable that it ever went out of print).
 
 
Jack Fear
17:43 / 16.02.04
He could learn a lot from Raymond Carver and other short-story writers.

You know who else is shit? Lovecraft. Doesn't write a thing like Raymond Carver, that man. Which is, as we all know, a prerequisite for writing short stories.

Jorge Luis Borges? Utter shit. Totally un-Carver-ish.
Isak Dinesen? Trash. Not a whiff of Carver about her.
James Joyce? Don't make me fucking laugh.

Et cetera.

Jesus.
 
 
The Photographer in Blowup
18:13 / 16.02.04
Hey, do you have a prejudice against Gabriel Garcia Marquez and Julio Cortazar or you just don't think they're good short-story writers, that you didn't mention them?

Yep, I repeat it, Grant Morrison could learn a lot from Raymond Carver; he's God with art backing up his writing, but he's pretty awful at prose. He builds poor sentences, tells too much and doesn't show enough. And his characters, they're just hollow. With Carver, in less than four pages I feel like i've known his characters for years.

Of course, I gave Carver as an example as well I could have mentioned Borges or Joyce - not Lovecraft, he's just as bad at prose, although he makes up for having great ideas - but the point is: Grant Morrison's short-stories are bad, IMO.

You don't think so, that's a problem of taste and I'll leave it at that.
 
 
Jack Fear
01:54 / 17.02.04
Oh, I agree that "The Braille Encyclopedia" is far from a perfect work, having some deficiencies in the plot department, and striving for a lushness of language that is simply beyond its grasp.

My point, though, is simply that different ends require different means, and that one stylistic approach is not appropriate to all types of stories: "The Braille Encyclopedia" as written in the style of Raymond Carver would be hilarious, and not in a good way. All the qualities that Carver brought to his work--austerity, harsh wisdom, quiet humanity--would be all wrong for what is essentially a blood-and-thunder phantasmagoria, equal parts Clive Barker and the Marquis de Sade.

"The Braille Encyclopedia" is not a quote-unquote "literary," this-is-the-way-we-live-now story: it's a horror story. Genre fiction must be judged by different rules than "literary" fiction (at least, genre fiction that makes no attempt to surmount its genre, and I believe "The Braille Encyclopedia" does not): the characters can be grotesques, the prose can be iffy, the style can be decalrative rather than demonstrative--all of these considerations are subordinate to the overall effect.

I have not read "The Braille Encyclopedia" in well over ten years, but the imagery of its final paragraphs is burned into my brain. In the intervening years I have read countless stories that were doubtless better-written, but right now I cannot recall a single one.
 
 
captainkyle
01:23 / 01.08.04
so is Lovely Biscuits completely lost and impossible to find, or what? i keep vague hopes that i'll find it at this years san diego comic con or the monthly los angeles comic cons, but 95% of the sellers don't even know what Lovely Biscuits is. does anyone have any insight on this?
 
 
sleazenation
22:01 / 01.08.04
You went to a comic convention asking about a book that lacks artwork...?

Seriously, AFAIK Lovely Biscuits, itself a collection of short stories published in various anthologies over time, is currently out of print... I wouldn't recommend selling your soul to buy it on Ebay, as JAck Fear suggests this is not Morrison's best work. OF interest to the completists and curious only...
 
 
Our Lady Has Left the Building
10:01 / 02.08.04
I love the publisher's sniffy comments on the Amazon UK page, If the reviewer failed to understand the basic meaning of Grant's fiction and instead only tuned into the superficial "blood and gore etc.." surface gloss, then he/she (somehow I feel its a he) should go back to their comics, making sure they check their IQ on the way in. Leave the serious books to those of us with braincell activity.
 
 
ONLY NICE THINGS
12:52 / 02.08.04
I know it's childish, but I'm loving the punctuation there:

ONEIROS published Grant's fiction because we feel he is one of the few writers currently working, with a grasp of what really makes us tick nowadays when 'reality' has been replaced by a soup of designer 'trends' and consumer crap.

Dude, I don't care with what kind of grasp you feel it; if you feel that George is one of the few writers currently working, you need to spend more time reading the trade press. They're all over the (e-)shop...
 
 
Goodness Gracious Meme
14:15 / 02.08.04
Just a quick point on The Braille Encylopedia:

"an officer demonstrates to him the Harrow, an instrument used to inflict capital punishment. The Harrow is an extraordinarily elegant instrument: the condemned man lies face-down on a Bed, while a complex system of needles inscribes the commandment he has broken (e.g. HONOR THY SUPERIORS) on his back.

The needles pierce deeper and deeper until the prisoner dies. In the process of dying, however, the condemned man finally understands the nature of justice and his punishment. "


A summary of Franz Kafka's *wonderful* 'In the Penal Colony'. Sound familiar?

The BE isn't bad exactly , but 'the parts which are good are not original and those which are original are not good' pretty much sums it up.

(btw,if you want to see what a *good* short story writer/novelist does with the concept, there's an e-text here
 
 
Jack The Bodiless
22:53 / 03.08.04
Oi. It's just a story, kids. Published to cash in on lots and lots of Morrison-mania. Barker's Books Of Blood are where it's at for grand guignol perversion, even after twenty years.

'Lovecraft In Heaven' is still a fascinatingly, beautifully surreal quasi-fictional study on the author... and I quite like the two plays at the end, in a Fringey kind of way...
 
 
The resistable rise of Reidcourchie
14:59 / 16.01.05
Does anyone know if Oneiros books are still publishing or have gone out of business? Their web sites down and their e-mail address just bounces.
 
  
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