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Stop doing cocaine at me!

 
 
Tuna Ghost: Pratt knot hero
04:38 / 24.08.07
How dare you do cocaine at a five-year-old's birthday party!

In the m-minds of the m-m-mattering men the slow down before the speed up will add to the art of this artifice!

Dammit! Don't say cocaine ideas next to the kid! It's his birthday, fool! HEY! Don't you dare do cocaine at me, you son of a bitch! Phillipe is FIVE today! That is SPECIAL!

and so on. The above conversation takes place in a recent Achewood installment, but after catching someone doing cocaine at a totally inappropriate moment, I began to wonder if, during my years of drug use, I had ever behaved so inappropriately. I mean, I came to work effed up all the time, but in the service industry that's more or less the norm so that doesn't count.

Anyway. I had nothing to say to the guy at first, it was only after a little consideration that I realized what was happening was totally inappropriate. That happens to me a lot, actually, I won't notice something is profoundly not right given the current situation until I notice that everyone else is acting like it's a big deal. A guy I worked with kinda melted one day and came to work half nude and started fixing himself drinks in the middle of the dining room, and I pretty much shrugged it off as merely "a little strange".

How much stuff I am missing that's actually a big deal? How much of it am I doing? Is it normal to worry about stuff like this?
 
 
Triplets
08:02 / 24.08.07
I'm not sure. However, weren't you the one who said you were currently "living peacefully" with a fuck-off deadly spider?
 
 
Regrettable Juvenilia
08:44 / 24.08.07
It's not really clear what you're on about, Tuna. What was the inappopriate moment and why was it inappropriate?
 
 
Less searchable M0rd4nt
09:14 / 24.08.07
Well if you're snorting cocaine in front of a five-year old otter you're probably going too far.
 
 
Alex's Grandma
09:32 / 24.08.07
Well as long as the kids in question are young enough not to know what you're actually up to ... I probably shouldn't go any further with this, should I?
 
 
Mistoffelees
09:50 / 24.08.07
I know a boy, that´s been around (pot)smokers since birth, One of the first things he could do to improve his motor skills (besides surfing on the internet) was rolling "cigarettes".
 
 
Tuna Ghost: Pratt knot hero
16:55 / 24.08.07
Petey: Well the thing is, when you are trying to use drugs responsibly, you have to keep an eye on what is or is not appropriate. This can include things like who you are with, who or what you are responsible for, what the situation is, how everyone is going to react if or when they discover you are using drugs (and whether or not that is important anyway) and so on.

For instance: one day, my cousins were in town and I was showing them around when I decided to grab some pot so long as I was in the neighborhood. Two of my cousins were old enough to know the score, but one was only fourteen, which, in my family, is far too young to be watching someone he respects buying pot from a dirty man named Drizzle in a dark, shitty apartment that reeks of mildew and despair. Unfortunately it was only after he had seen me do exactly that that I realized this. I felt awful. Not only did he not need to be a witness to that, but what if his mother, also one of my favorite aunts, found out? She'd murder me. Stupid move on my part.

Anyway, so this other jerk just whips out his blow at the wrong time in front of all the wrong people when we have shit to take care of, and after I realize that it's a bad idea I try to explain it to him and it's like talking to a bird or something. Was I ever like that, I think to myself.

Even worse is the idea that even now things will just slip by me and all of a sudden everyone will turn and look at me like I just did something totally and unbelievalby inappropriate and I'll have no idea what they're talking about.

However, weren't you the one who said you were currently "living peacefully" with a fuck-off deadly spider?

That's different. They keep the other insect population down and both me and my cat know not to fool with them, so things are great. So long as the treaty holds, everything's peaches n' cream. It's not inappropriate, just probably a little dumb.
 
 
Triplets
17:01 / 24.08.07
Right, okay, but there is no treaty except, perhaps, in your head. Spiders don't know treaties from quantum physics. You're anthropomorphising in a very unsensible way.

I'm being blunt because spiders are an Argh!Shit! hot-button but, Tuna, you're being silly and dangerous.
 
 
Tuna Ghost: Pratt knot hero
17:26 / 24.08.07
I suppose that may be true, but I've seen no aggression from them in the previous two years. Also I have no idea how to get rid of them, so live and let live I guess. Besides, I leave for Japan in a week anyway (hells yeah) so they're about to be someone else's problem.

And I don't mean to alarm you, I promise, but these brown recluse guys are all over the country (primarily the midwest). I treat them like I treat bees: let them do their insect/arachnid thing, just check your shoes and clothes left on the floor in the morning. It's not like I can kill them all or even avoid them forever.
 
 
Triplets
17:32 / 24.08.07
I am never going to America forever.

Well, I just hope you stay safe, Tuna. Enjoy the Beast of the East.
 
 
Dead Megatron
18:15 / 24.08.07
yeah, but pot in Japan should be really, really expensive, I imagine.

i had some experiencewith pot-smoking in front of children, and it always made me fell a little queasy. The kids in question were the sons and daughters of friends of mine who are potsmokers like me, they were all very healthy and happy children, and I was not the one to tell their parents how to raise them , but still.

Another friend of mine, who is now living in Portlan, OR, but is to return to Brazil within the month, told me his son, who about 7, found out about it, so they both had a conversation in which my friend explained to him that pot-smoking was a grown-up thing and it is now their "little secret", and the kid seems pretty O.K.

As for cocaine and kids, I never had to deal with that situation. For one side, I'd say it is a lot iffier situation, being coke a "heavier", way more dangerous drug than pot. But, on the other side, it can be used a lot more discretly than pot (no smell, no smoke, one can go to the restroom and come back all snorked-up in 60 seconds).
 
 
Aertho
18:22 / 24.08.07
I am never going to America forever.

Heartbreaker.
 
 
Princess
18:36 / 24.08.07
Chad, he is OURS and he loves ME!

Do not even try it, because I will cut you deep.
 
 
Alex's Grandma
19:12 / 24.08.07
To trot out these tired arguments, again (not to have a go at anyone here, particularly - it's just that I was on the road with Spiral Tribe in the early Nineties; I made a lot of cups of tea) in what sense, morally, is smoking dope or 'doing a line of Charlie' - the terminology's dreadful, but that aside - any worse than having a glass of wine in front of the kids?

The difference, of course (as a Grandmother myself, I'm not in the position of telling anyone to suck eggs) is that cocaine and cannabis are illegal in the UK, at the moment. They possibly shouldn't be; arguably, all of the problems associated with either (more than anything else, the abuse of the harvesters) could be swept away in a moment if everything, actually, was just legalised.

Until that happens, I'll keep on huffing lighter fluid, and drinking bottles of scotch until the cows ... forget where they were from originally, I guess.
 
 
Dead Megatron
19:24 / 24.08.07
My take on that is not to have any kids of my own any time soon

Am I too high, or have the founts in Barbelith just suddenly changed withour warning?
 
 
Alex's Grandma
19:41 / 24.08.07
Almost certainly, DM, you are too high.

But, I'm feeling in an expansive mood - would anyone like to share a virtual ... how to put this, 'joint'? 'spliff'? Again, the drug culture's yet to find a way of not being a terminal fool to itself, but essentially, I'll be rolling up in about ten ... actually possibly fifteen minutes, and I'd like to think everyone could sort of join hands, across the world. It could be a very beautiful moment.
 
 
Princess
19:49 / 24.08.07
I only have fennel tea, no spliff.
If I drink four litres in three minutes, does that count?
 
 
Alex's Grandma
19:58 / 24.08.07
Ok, everyone! Are you ready?!!

Are You Ready, you lucky people!!!!/

I'm lighting up nah!!11!
 
 
Alex's Grandma
20:00 / 24.08.07
I have been invited to a special party at Boujis, though.
 
 
Dead Megatron
20:13 / 24.08.07
Hey, if you have Live Messenger and a webcam, we can make an online pot-circle right now.

Starting rolling... now
 
 
Tuna Ghost: Pratt knot hero
22:46 / 24.08.07
The difference, of course (as a Grandmother myself, I'm not in the position of telling anyone to suck eggs) is that cocaine and cannabis are illegal in the UK, at the moment. They possibly shouldn't be; arguably, all of the problems associated with either (more than anything else, the abuse of the harvesters) could be swept away in a moment if everything, actually, was just legalised.

Mmm, maybe not all. Most of them, certainly. Part of the reason I felt so ill after my own fuckup was because the whole scene was just so seedy, which at the time I was very used to. Purchasing illegal drugs in a dark room from a junkie, though, is definately not for children. But I wouldn't have to do that if these substances were legal. The whole scene would be less seedy.

The difference between doing a line and having a glass of wine is that wine in front of children is okay, but getting drunk is less so. And typically nobody ever does just a line or two unless that's all they have, so getting effed up is definately on the menu.

I dunno. I guess it all does sound a little "won't somebody please think of the children", huh.
 
 
ibis the being
23:25 / 24.08.07
I feel you, Tuna Ghost.

My analogous moment came while I was in college and had my two brothers come visit. One was 19 or 20 and we had partied together many times, but the other was only 14 or 15, and I felt uncomfortable about some of the things that went on with him there... the worst being when a couple of my friends (drunk already) decided to chop up some Dexedrine tablets and snort them. I didn't know what my youngest bro's social life was like, but I was fairly certain he hadn't seen that before. And I felt bad. I doubt he was scarred for life or anything close, but I just felt like a bad big sister for... I guess pushing the boundaries of his drug culture exposure?
 
 
Less searchable M0rd4nt
23:53 / 24.08.07
a dirty man named Drizzle in a dark, shitty apartment that reeks of mildew and despair.

Damn. I always wondered what happened to him after he left the Underdark. Don't tell me--he pawned his scimitars for crack, right? I guess being an m-sub devotee of a spider Goddess doesn't look so bad now.
 
 
Tuna Ghost: Pratt knot hero
05:11 / 25.08.07
doubt he was scarred for life or anything close, but I just felt like a bad big sister for... I guess pushing the boundaries of his drug culture exposure?

Yes! Like a bad cousin, a bad family member. I guess when you phrase it like "pushing the boundaries of his drug culture exposure" it doesn't sound so terrible, but it certainly didn't feel kosher.

I always wondered what happened to him after he left the Underdark. Don't tell me--he pawned his scimitars for crack, right? I guess being an m-sub devotee of a spider Goddess doesn't look so bad now.

I almost didn't get that. No, this particular Drizzle never had any scimitars, but he did smell like he spent a good bit of time under the ground.
 
 
Organic Resident
21:50 / 25.08.07
About 15 years ago, I had a number of friends who would smoke dope and take ecstasy in front of their 4 or 5 year old children. Apart from anything else, smoking in the same room didn't seem like a good idea. Now I've got a baby of my own, I just couldn't imagine doing this or drinking heavily.
 
 
Slim
00:24 / 26.08.07
I began to wonder if, during my years of drug use, I had ever behaved so inappropriately.

I'm shocked that you even feel that this is a question worth asking.
 
 
Jack Fear
11:54 / 26.08.07
Because the answer is so incredibly obvious, or...?
 
 
Slim
02:43 / 27.08.07
Because the answer is indeed so incredibly obvious. At least, it should be to Tuna.
 
  
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