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Werner Herzog

 
 
paumanok
19:49 / 15.08.07
I'm curious how other Barbelith members feel about Werner. First film I ever saw of his was Grizzly Man, which absolutely blew me away and made me determined to plow through the rest of his extensive catalogue.

One of his latest, Wild Blue Yonder, is another stand-out of his that's been tucked under the radar even more than some of his crazier early work. It actually has a fairly cohesive narrative (told by B-B-Billy from Cuckoo's Nest--I forget the actor's name) and combines footage of astronauts' downtime in space and divers underneath Antarctica into a great little science fiction yarn.

Even Dwarfs Started Small is a fucking trip. 'Nuff said. Even crazier when you think of how mental illness and other disorders had been handled historically.

His Doc. on the Kuwait oil fires is another masterpiece with Werner narrating another crazy science fiction story over the unbelievable destruction.

I haven't seen Heart of Glass, curious about that one. Apparently he hypnotised the entire cast and crew.

What do y'all think?
 
 
epona
21:16 / 15.08.07
herzog is quite a character. he seems to have an interest in focussing on the the human condition in it's extreme. his most recent film is rescue dawn, though i have yet to see it. from what i gather it is the true story of a german born pilot for the u.s airforce that was shot down in vietnam, held captive, tortured and starved. werzog pushes his actors hard. i heard the actors in this film lost an immense amount of weight, had to eat insects and leaches and basically get into the roles more deeply than they had ever done in their careers.

have you seen aguirre, the wrath of god? in this film conquistadors seach in vain in the jungle for the mythical el dorado. he actually took the entire film crew deep into the amazon and gives klaus kinski what is arguably his most poignant role in his very long and illustrious acting career. in fact, the relationship between herzog and kinski is intriguing - sort of a love/hate thing they have going on. they aere both very passionate about their work and passionate people. if you can get your hands on the dvd set of the films they have done together, i highly suggest watching aguirre with the commentary on, it is herzog and kinksi and it is a trip!
 
 
paumanok
22:33 / 15.08.07
Rescue Dawn is actually the fictionalized account of an earlier documentary "Little Dieter Wants to Fly."

In typical Werner-style, he brings the Vet back to the POW camps and has him recount his story in the actual places where it happened. It also sports one of my favorite ending shots to a Werner film.

Haven't seen Aguirre yet, but sounds interesting, especially after seeing "My Best Fiend" which is about his relationship with Klaus.
 
 
Jack Fear
22:58 / 15.08.07
Another documentary, My Best Fiend (sic), chronicles his working relationship with Kinski. Probably more interesting to someone who's already seen most of the movies they made together (Aguirre, Fitzcarraldo, Cobra Verde, Nosferatu the Vampyre—itself a remake of Murnau's silent film—and Woyczek).

I had mixed feelings about Grizzly Man. Tim Treadwell was, no doubt, a self-impressed jackass at best and mentally ill at worst—Herzog kinda glossed over his alcoholism, which I thought was a shame, since a lot of his later behavior is classic dry-drunk pathology—but frankly Herzog came off as pretty self-impressed himself. He uses Treadwell as a foil, letting him set up his own thoughts about nature, and then punctures them. It's an entirely one-sided debate, since Treadwell's not alive to rebut Herzog and Herzog is free to cherry-pick Treadwell's hundreds of hours of footage to find the tape that shows him in the worst light. It kinda left a bad taste in my mouth. Like, they're both jerks—they desrve each other.

Richard Thompson's score was just sublime, though, and it sounds terrific on its own. If you rent the Grizzly man DVD, be sure to watch the documentary on the recording session for the score, wherein Herzog's pomposity reaches Olympian levels. It's a hoot.
 
 
MattShepherd: I WEDDED KALI!
23:10 / 15.08.07
I bought the Herzog/Kinski box set from Anchor Bay a few years ago, and it was seriously one of the soundest purchases of my media-buying life. Those two (and the set includes the aforementioned My Best Fiend) did the best work of their respective lives together, and nothing Herzog has done since his Kinski collaborations has come close.
 
 
Bandini
12:51 / 16.08.07
It's probably worth buying this if you're even vaguely interested as it's really really good and certainly worth £10.99.

Herzog Boxset
 
 
All Acting Regiment
14:04 / 16.08.07
Can you check that link, it's not working?

I would reccomend Nosferatu the Vampire, and will do so more in a more useful fashion when I come back tomorrow.
 
 
tickspeak
14:44 / 16.08.07
I deeply loved Grizzly Man in spite of Herzog, who, as the narrator, was an oppressive and obnoxious presence. However, his "keep the camera on a little too long so the subject has to keep talking hirself out of hir comfort zone" interview method was used to brilliant effect.

One of my favorite Herzog films, though, isn't a Herzog film. He plays the father in Harmony Korine's GUMMO, which is excellent in all respects, but Herzog's performance is absolutely a highlight. He's hysterically funny, creepy as hell, and quite pathetic, often simultaneously.
 
 
paumanok
14:51 / 16.08.07
Ohh man Julien Donkeyboy scared the shit outta me, but Werner was top-notch.

"A natural high...like Mount Everest...where's MY ever rest??"
 
 
Jack Fear
14:52 / 16.08.07
Is he in Gummo? I thought he was in Julian Donkey-Boy...
 
 
Jack Fear
15:06 / 16.08.07
(oops, cross-post)
 
 
Bandini
15:12 / 16.08.07
Sorry, i can't seem to get it to work. Basically it's the Region 2 DVD boxset of Herzog/Kinski films on Play.
5 Discs only 10.99 and with great commentaries.
 
 
Jack Fear
21:48 / 17.08.07
Bang.
 
 
Tsuga
22:13 / 17.08.07
I just saw Incident at Loch Ness, which was somewhat funny, if a little clunky, as a mockumentary poking fun at Herzog (playing himself). The guy who wrote it with him and directed, Zak Penn, was unsettlingly good at being a dickhead producer of the documentary. Kind of confusing to describe, a fake documentary of a fake documentary with real people playing themselves.
Something else some of you might want to see if you haven't is Burden of Dreams, a documentary about the making of Fitzcarraldo. It's real, and painful to see, just how difficult the making of that movie was.
 
  
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