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For the Love of God: Damien Hirst's diamond-studded skull

 
 
Phex: Dorset Doom
18:27 / 18.07.07
I'm sure that by now many of you have seen Damien Hirst's latest work, For the Love of God (henceforth abbreviated to 4log). If not then check it:



The pun-tastic title was allegedly inspired by Hirst's mother, who asked her son “For the love of God, what are you going to do next?” The skull is that of a nameless European who lived sometime between 1720 and 1810, it is covered in 8601 individual, flawless and ethically sourced diamonds over a layer of pure platinum. Price-tag: $50 Million.
It is, as they say, a Spicy Meatball.
But: what are its artistic merits?
Is it a comment on the diamond industry? Perhaps all of industry? Maybe capitalism? Is it self-reflexive, perhaps even self-parody? Is it, as some have suggested, an example of 'bling' taken to a shocking conclusion, and if so, is this really a valid critique of hip-hop culture? Is it a comment on the Christian notion that you 'can't take it with you'?
Now, I am neither a Hirst-phile or phobe. I rather enjoyed The Physical Impossibility of Death in the Mind of Someone Living for what it was (a bloody great fuck-off shark in a tank- \m/METAL\m/). This new work certainly has the immediacy and impact of Hirst's best, but then, to quote Janes Addiction, nothing is shocking (any more).
What do others think?
 
 
Janean Patience
18:44 / 18.07.07
It's the answer to my favourite artwork of the 90s, The KLF Burn A Million Quid. It's what Bill Drummond tried to say before he burnt the money, an equation of art and value. I'd love to see it. I think it's wonderful. And despite him being an arse, I'm actually pretty impressed with Hirst.
 
 
Alex's Grandma
23:38 / 18.07.07
I'm also a fan. As the most feted UK artist since Bacon, arguably, and likely to remain that way for the rest of his life, Hirst does seem to be addressing posterity, and thus death, with this piece. Insofar as the skull is always going to be worth the equivalent of $15 million in diamonds, this being more, in the current market, than almost anything except a major Van Gogh or Picasso is likely to change hands for. The difference being that you can't just go at your Picasso or Van Gogh in a fit of pique with a hammer, and liberate the wealth.

In a sense, if the skull is worth more than the value of the raw materials in the future (and it's likely to last longer than anything on canvas) then it'll be considered a success as far as it's maker's reputation is concerned. But what happens if it's actually worth less?

Well, probably nothing as far as Hirst is concerned, he'll be a skull himself by that point, no doubt, but isn't this one of the questions he's raising? And not for entirely narcisstic reasons either?

A skull (though for clear enough reasons not one's own, as such, because how could you trust the staff not to cut corners?) encrusted in flawless diamonds being your best shot at immortality, in the manner of an Egyptian boy prince? All this being loaded with irony.

(Sorry, rambling a bit. Anyway, thumbs up from this corner, for the skull.)
 
 
unbecoming
04:04 / 19.07.07
i feel that if indeed there is a point to this piece, it is typically obtuse and inpenetrable. It annoys me that it is this work that recieves so much media attention and discussion when there is a global festival of art happening at the same time featuring many more interesting and new perspectives.

i might just be bitter because i don't "get" it. Hirst has left so much for the viewer decide that the work becomes contextually flabby- we wonder if it is about this or that but the significance of the skull and the diamonds are not suitably anchored to provide any cklue as to how to access the work for me.

the title and the skull both point too obviously to the subject of death, refering perhaps to the commonly cited notion that Hirst is an artist who makes work about death and suggesting that this piece may be self parody or if not, some kind of self aware meta critique whereby Hirst can court some much needed controversy following his poorly recieved recent shows.
 
 
Saint Keggers
21:46 / 19.07.07
Everybody's a critic, but at least this one has a bit of style
 
 
Glenn Close But No Cigar
22:59 / 19.07.07
Odd, I was writing about this just today. An extract from my notes:

"If traditional memento mori are about accepting the universal fact of death, Hirst’s skull is about leaving a beautiful corpse that, with its ineffable durability, will witness the end of time. When God’s last breath blows across the ashes of the world, this terrible object will remain. This is terminal art. Art for when all our futures run out."
 
 
All Acting Regiment
11:41 / 23.07.07
But: what are its artistic merits?
Is it a comment on the diamond industry? Perhaps all of industry? Maybe capitalism? Is it self-reflexive, perhaps even self-parody? Is it, as some have suggested, an example of 'bling' taken to a shocking conclusion, and if so, is this really a valid critique of hip-hop culture? Is it a comment on the Christian notion that you 'can't take it with you'?


Why are any of these things neccesarily artistic merits?

If I may step away for a moment from the question of whether or not the work in question has these merits at all, these are all critical and intellectual merits*, and a thing can have all of these and still be a boring and dreary - i.e. artisitically meritless, i.e. flawed - piece of art (like any number of contemporary "installations", or, broadening the spectrum, many of the novels that get taught on postcolonial literature courses, and nearly all "contemporary poetry").

I think the current demand that a thing supply it's "artistic merit" in the form of a more or less mandarinised/symbolicised sociology lesson is as idiotic as the Victorian notion that a thing wasn't art unless it was moral/provided a "moral message".

The things that "fit the bill" in this sense nearly all come with the notion that they are only of interest to people (I include me) who have read some core sociology/critical theory texts, and also that the people who go to see them do so because they feel as though they should** (which is not a modern phenomenon, of course) and who want to see a rough approximation of their opinions in this symbolic, "mandarin" form that can then be pulled apart - it's like a game of Buckaroo, where the art-work is the donkey, the different items on his back are the layers of signification, and where the aim is to actually make the donkey kick, with the "kick" or "money-shot" being your production of a "profound" intellectual reading of the object (which reading of course makes not one iota of difference to society, as it only works on people as educated as you, and you had to have advanced to a stage of being able to make it before you even saw the piece, and the mandarin form of the piece puts off, by creating this "in-group" of "those who understand/appreciate", anyone who hasn't already been told by society that they're "intellectual" - i.e. it tells people who work in Asda to piss off***).

I find the paragraph I've just written to be quite a hard read. Allow me to pause.

The things that "fit the bill" in the aforementioned "art as sociology" sense are also demonstrably lacking in any kind of attempt at drama or beauty - or they have a forced version - "look at how beautiful these hills are because this work is about how you should care more about climate change". I would hold up Francis Bacon as an antithesis to this - however repugnant the paintings are they are also beautiful and dramatic (and he is presenting his subject rather than trying to convince you of something). Now this Hirst peice I find quite beautiful and quite dramatic, but in neither sense is it as acheived as the Aztec original by which it is inspired.

After all of which I would like to point that I am not trying to formulate some sort of idea about the only good art being that which manifestly does not question society, nor that if art can be read as questioning society it must neccesarily be bad - all art, like all produce, can be read as a comment on its society (this is probably the major issue here), and plenty of people produce and sell in tea-rooms dainty pictures of deer and lady-birds whose intention is certainly not to question society and whose art is quite bad.

Rather, I'm trying to point out that 99% of the discourse around art in Britain, and probably most contemporary liberal democracies, is essentially marketing a product to a certain class of people using what ammounts to moralising techniques ("you, who come to see this art-work, are better than they who buy the Nuts magazine because they simply pleasure their base instincts, while you are busily questioning society").




* Well, the idea that it's good because it "criticises" "hip hop culture" is about as intellectually rigorous as Gary Bushell in a wood-chipper, but still. For more on this see this thread.

** I.E. in the Victorian sense because it is "uplifting, bettering", and in the modern sense "because it asks questions" as opposed to "because it is enjoyable/pleasurable".

*** I am sure there are plenty of people working at Asda more than intelligent enough to enjoy books, art, or anything they feel like enjoying, but the art gallery is in many ways still as exclusive a place as it was in the 1800s. For all sorts of reasons it is still not a place that all classes can interface with easily (in the sense of "let's pop out and look at the gallery"). In both cases, 1800s and now, this is unfair, and somewhat hypocritical (the the 1800s we see a gallery allegedly designed to express, as an ideal, "the human condition", in actuality heavily biased towards straight white males, and now we see work that supposedly, as an ideal, "questions" society whilst in actuality excluding most of society from this discourse).
 
 
Alex's Grandma
21:40 / 26.07.07
"If traditional memento mori are about accepting the universal fact of death, Hirst’s skull is about leaving a beautiful corpse that, with its ineffable durability, will witness the end of time. When God’s last breath blows across the ashes of the world, this terrible object will remain. This is terminal art. Art for when all our futures run out."

U r Will Self, and I claim my five pounds.
 
 
Alex's Grandma
22:07 / 26.07.07
And ,AR, while I think I take your point, it's probably worth remembering that most public British art galleries, unless they're hosting a major exhibition, are free to get into. Paradoxically, perhaps, the shows that charge entry seem to be the ones that people are happy enough to queue for - make of that what you will.

Honestly, what else is somewhere like the National Portrait Gallery supposed to do? It's free to go in there, and anyone can, but that means, up to a point, that it's going to be financially difficult for the management to publicise this fact.

According to (what seems to be) your argument here, the average library's elitist, because it's not reaching out to the community enough.
 
 
Glenn Close But No Cigar
23:21 / 26.07.07
Mark E. / Alex's aged relative: how do you want your fiver? Postal order, or perhaps Talk Time?
 
 
All Acting Regiment
09:22 / 27.07.07
According to (what seems to be) your argument here, the average library's elitist, because it's not reaching out to the community enough.

Hmm, not what I was trying to say, although I may well have said it inadvertently. I must be off somewhere at the moment however, so shall interfere more when I return.
 
 
johnny enigma
09:08 / 30.11.07
All I have to bring to this debate is that I'm really, really bored of Damien Hirst. I just want him to go away and come back when he's done something terrifyingly traditional and last century like draw a picture or write a song.
 
 
Glenn Close But No Cigar
13:52 / 30.11.07
Well, something last century might include exhibiting an upturned pissoir, like Marcel Duchamp did in 1917.

As for something traditional, here's a Hirst painting from this year. It's not very good, but it is figurative.



Given that all you've got to bring to the debate is that you're bored of Hirst (and also, on the evidence of your post, fairly ignorant about his work and 20th century art in general), maybe it's best if you leave it there, eh?
 
 
Olulabelle
20:25 / 04.12.07
No actually Glenn, I think it's a valid point, perhaps a little unwisely put given the board's current climate but still it has worth and doesn't really need you Lording it about telling people what they should and shouldn't post. I mean track record and all that.

Besides, I too am bored with Damian Hirst for much the same reasons. And I think it's interesting that people aren't as aware of his more figurative work, for example. Why is that? Why is what is presented to us Hirstwise only ever of the cow/skull variety?
 
 
HCE
01:02 / 13.12.07
Sorry, but what are your reasons for being bored with Hirst? I don't believe johnny actually gives his reasons. He says what he wishes Hirst would do before returning, after having gone away (both of which, incidentally, Hirst has already done).

As to why people aren't more aware of his figurative work: I would guess, without, obviously, being able to grab a bunch of people and ask them, that it's because the animals in formaldehyde are more shocking and memorable. His figurative work is not especially good -- other people do that sort of thing rather better.
 
 
Olulabelle
08:06 / 16.12.07
I kind of read what Johnny wrote as being bored with the way-out formaldehyde version of Hirst and I was responding to that. Perhaps presumption on my part about what he was particularly bored with, but I think probably presumed correctly.

And actually I was more responding to Glenn, owing to the fact that his post was put in a very snidey way asnd not at all conducive to discussion. Given the issues elsewhere Glenn has with people talking to him like that, it's pretty outrageous to be putting people down in the way he did.

Regarding writing songs, I think Damian Hirst was really more hanging off the coat-tails of Keith Allen and Alex James to form 'Fat Les'; I think that's interesting because in some ways Damian Hirst is very mainstream - Brit Art at the time being a very popular art movement and one much talked about in the ordinary press. But it felt almost as if he was trying to be even more mainstream in that producing a a/football related b/popsong is about as mainstream as you can get. I am not sure what Hirst's actual contribution to the whole project was, but more to the point why he felt the need, as an established visual artist, to make such a contribution.
 
 
HCE
15:16 / 16.12.07
Oh, I see -- sorry about that, I have Glenn on ignore so I missed that part of it.

But it felt almost as if he was trying to be even more mainstream in that producing a a/football related b/popsong is about as mainstream as you can get. I am not what Hirst's actual contribution to the whole project was, but more to the point why he felt the need, as an established visual artist, to make such a contribution.

That's an interesting question, actually -- obviously I can only speculate about Hirst's needs, but as far as how I interpret his work as a viewer -- I think this issue of the relationship of the fine arts to the general public is something that runs through all his work.
 
 
unbecoming
11:30 / 21.12.07
I think this issue of the relationship of the fine arts to the general public is something that runs through all his work.

that sounds like an interesting take- certainly, Hirst's interaction with the media hype surrounding his work seems to be an extension of his work. Like Julian Stallanbrass says in High Art Lite, the interview becomes a new site for a new form of artist's text.

I can't quite articulate exactly the way that Hirst's work addresses the specific issue of the relation of the public to his work- brb could you possibly expand upon that point?
 
 
Olulabelle
17:21 / 28.12.07
I don't have the answer to your question but I think one interesting thing is that Hirst's work is always very accessible to the general public in that it's very easy to have an opinion on. Lots of fine art and specifically gallery art seems to leave quite a lot of people mystified but Hirst's doesn't. Anyone can comment on it and have an opinion on it because it's brash and obvious, kind of 'rude' art which makes people care one way or another about it, enough to say something. Some art you see just leaves you going, "Wha...?"
 
  
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