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Spinning Hands

 
 
Jawsus-son Starship
12:20 / 03.07.07
Please shred apart;

Al struggled for minutes before he began signing. The sand would rise slower without his help, groping upwards by centremeters instead of inches. He'd decided that this would be worse but for the hope of escape. He was sure she had seen him, or wanted her to have. He could still hope despite himself, and so he would.

He continued to sign. It would be dark soon, and long before anyone would miss him. She had been scared when he gasped at her. She had thought him a monster, and in a way he was. A mole man. Deep set eyes and a empty maw, no tongue, sinking in the earth. She had run, and he couldn't blame her. Perhaps she would tell someone. That would be the best case. He'd already settled on the worse.

The wedding ring was his, just not in the normal sense. A present from an old friend who named dogs, brought from a cheap jewelry stand in Manilla when on shore leave. He'd married young, and didn't build past this The cabin would have made a lovely retirement. No one feels as lonley among tress.

The earth was at his shoulders before he allowed himself to panic. His hands kept spinning for help.
 
 
All Acting Regiment
11:00 / 04.07.07
Good, nice and short, have the basic plot already. Is it going to be longer? Do you need to make it more clear that he's using sign language? The phrase "signing" threw me off.
 
 
Jawsus-son Starship
16:48 / 04.07.07
I have to keep it under 200 words, so unfortunetly this version won't be any longer.
 
 
MattShepherd: I WEDDED KALI!
18:46 / 04.07.07
Are there typos in the second-to-last paragraph (punctuation, lonley) or is that authorial intent? Not being snarky -- the person is going under, after all, but I want to hold off comment until I know whether those are oopses or the sign of a panicked mind unravelling.
 
 
Jawsus-son Starship
17:42 / 06.07.07
Are there typos in the second-to-last paragraph (punctuation, lonley) or is that authorial intent?

They are typos, I've never been one to mess with form. Though my original idea for this story was to right it all out in long hand morse code i.e. dot dash dot dot dash dot, for two hundred words, telling the story of a sinking ship. It was then that I realised it would be probably just be boring unless I told people what it was, and then I could be accused of being a bit "wanky".
 
 
Jawsus-son Starship
11:31 / 07.07.07
Well lets see - is this interesting to anyone?

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Glenn Close But No Cigar
14:38 / 08.07.07
Some thoughts on the first story...

Para 1:

- 'signing'... do you mean making gestures in sign language? If not, it's an odd word choice.
- It's 'more slowly, not 'slower'.
- It's 'centimetres' (UK) or 'centimeters' (US), not 'centremeters'.

Para 2:

- 'She had been scared when he gasped at her' sits strangely with the sentence 'he was sure she had seen him, or wanted to her have' in the first para. If 'she had run, and he couldn't blame her', any sense of uncertainty in the first para is lost.

Para 3:

- 'a present from an old friend who named dogs' is a peculiar description, especially as this chap is also reported to have bought the ring 'on shore leave'. Are there many dogs on the high seas that require naming by a professional?

- 'Manilla' is spelled 'Manila', if you mean the capital of the Philippines.

- If your protagonist 'married young', surely this suggests to the reader that he would, but for the quicksand, have spent his 'lovely retirement' with his wife, a figure who would have dispelled his loneliness far more effectively than the 'the tress'. Further, I'm guessing by 'the tress' you mean 'the trees'. If not, is the 'tress' of which you write a strand of his young wife's hair?

- All in all, this paragraph is very confusing, even if (as I suspect you may be) you are attempting to evoke the all over the place-ness of a dying mind.


Para 4:

- 'The earth'... wasn't it sand in the first para? If you mean The Earth, as in the planet, you need to capitalise.

- 'his hands kept spinning for help'... In the first para, you say that Al 'struggled for minutes before he began signing. The sand would rise slower without his help'. Now, if the idea is that he stops struggling to slow the rising sands, surely his 'signing' would have the same effect? To put it another way, aren't struggling, signing and spinning all much the same thing is this situation? Maybe you meant 'singing', which might be a good idea if he wanted to attract attention? Shouting would have been even better, but maybe you intend Al (with his signing) to be a mute, capable only of 'gasp[ing]'? All very confusing. Maybe Al should just think fuck it and have a sexy party?

All in all, the basic idea is sound enough, but I'm afraid I can't see you yomping home with the prize if your story remains as confusing as this.

Some thoughts on the second story...

I like the basic idea. Have you actually written a story about a sinking ship in Morse code? Would you write it in dots and dashes, dahs and dits (the actual Morse sounds), or like so: -- --- .-. ... . / -.-. --- --. . (that's Morse code for, um, Morse Code). I like the final solution best, myself.

You could call the story something like, oh I don't know, 'The Ship Sinks', and then just present 200 words of Morse. That way, you could indicate what's going on, without a lengthy explanation.

Best of luck.
 
 
Jawsus-son Starship
11:10 / 09.07.07
Al struggled for minutes before his hands began to sign. The sand would rise slower without his help, groping upwards by centimetres instead of inches. He'd decided that this would be worse but for the hope of escape. He was sure she had seen him, or wanted her to have. He could still hope despite himself, and so he would.

He continued to sign. It would be dark soon, and long before anyone would miss him. She had been scared when he gasped at her. She had thought him a monster, and in a way he was. A mole man. Deep set eyes and a empty maw, no tongue, sinking in the earth. She had run, and he couldn't blame her. Perhaps she would tell someone. That would be the best case. He'd already settled on the worse.

The wedding ring was his, just not in the normal sense. A present from an old friend who named dogs, brought from a cheap jewelry stand in Manila when on shore leave. He'd married young, and didn't build past this The cabin would have made a lovely retirement. No one feels as lonley among trees.

The earth was at his shoulders before he allowed himself to panic. His hands kept spinning for help.
 
 
Glenn Close But No Cigar
11:25 / 09.07.07
Some more spelling / grammer stuff suggestions:

Para 2:

- 'an empty maw' not 'a empty maw'

Para 3:

- 'bought from a cheap' not 'brought from a cheap'

- He'd married young and didn't biuld past this The cabin would'... surely you need a full stop here between 'this' and 'The'?

Still confused about the maritime dog-namer. Can I apply for a similar position down at the docks?
 
 
Jawsus-son Starship
11:41 / 09.07.07
'signing'... do you mean making gestures in sign language? If not, it's an odd word choice.

Yes. I was trying to suggest that the character was mute, and used sign language. I was going to have him scribbling and throwing the notes on the floor, but then I heard some kid ask why a lady using sign language was "spinning her hands.", so I thought I'd incorperate that into the story.

'She had been scared when he gasped at her' sits strangely with the sentence 'he was sure she had seen him, or wanted to her have' in the first para. If 'she had run, and he couldn't blame her', any sense of uncertainty in the first para is lost.

The she is deliberatly ambivalent - I want the audience to decide who 'she' is. In my mind it was a young girl, but my friend suggested it was his wife. However;

If your protagonist 'married young', surely this suggests to the reader that he would, but for the quicksand, have spent his 'lovely retirement' with his wife, a figure who would have dispelled his loneliness far more effectively than the 'the tress'. Further, I'm guessing by 'the tress' you mean 'the trees'. If not, is the 'tress' of which you write a strand of his young wife's hair?

I was refering to his marrying the navy - I thought that was obvious, with his wedding ring being ' not in the normal sense', and given to him by a friend on 'shore leave'.

Everything else are typos - Earth instead of sand, just mixing up the words.
 
 
Glenn Close But No Cigar
12:46 / 09.07.07
Dude, I hope this comes across as constructive criticism mixed with gentle ribbing rather than nastiness, but I think that if your story demands this level of clarification, it doesn't really function.

The mute thing isn't really clear enough, and at times just plain does not make sense. Why, for example, does a man stuck in quicksand 'continue to sign' when there's no-one around? Signing is, after all, silent, and even if he hoped to attract attention by moving his arms about, just waving them madly would surely be more effective than carefully spelling out 'I am stuck in quicksand, and could really do with a hand here'. Perhaps he could clap instead, just like Queen fans during a performance of 'Another One Bites the Dust'? That, at least, would make a sound, although it might attract Ben Elton.

Equally, the marrying the Navy thing isn't clear at all. The wedding ring might not be Al's 'in the normal sense', but this does not necessarily suggest that he's taken the King's Shilling. Indeed, given that his seafaring, dog-naming chum gave it to him after purchasing it on shore leave in the Philippines, it could also suggest a gay marriage of sorts, with, presumably, a newly-monickered ship's spaniel as the bridesmaid.

Is there supposed to be an irony in the fact that (possibly Big Gay) Al is drowning in sand, when he has survived many a choppy night on the seas around Manila? if so, you might want to draw this out.

In the end, though, it all comes down to the fact that moles do have tongues, unless they are mute moles, 'signing' sea shanties, perhaps.

The prose isn't bad at all. It just needs the application of a little logic. Again, best of luck.
 
 
MattShepherd: I WEDDED KALI!
12:58 / 09.07.07
I didn't have any problems understanding that he was signing (and oddly, him signing where nobody could see him didn't bother me -- I took it as a sort of function of panic; he's "shouting" the best he can, if not very sensibly).

Totally missed the "married to the Navy" elements, though. That confused me both in the initial read and in the clean-up.

What type of competition is this being written for?
 
 
Jawsus-son Starship
13:12 / 09.07.07
The idea wasn't so much "look how clever - Irony! Al drowns on land - and he was in the navy! narf!" kind of thing, more a coming to the end, captain going down on his ship, signing away like he was saluting - but on land!

It strikes me that this would be a lot better as a longer story, as I could deal with all of these ideas, push out a few more.

With regards to the Navy Dog Naming position - I've got a mate who's named the last three mascots of his mates in the MP. All were dogs, his dogs, in an unofficial mascot capacity. So we joke that his job in the army is naming dogs (the dogs don't go on manevours, but stay at his wife's house).
 
 
Glenn Close But No Cigar
13:28 / 09.07.07
Not signing, but drowning...
 
 
Regrettable Juvenilia
13:35 / 09.07.07
Do you get dogs in the Navy, though?
 
 
Regrettable Juvenilia
13:39 / 09.07.07
Apparently so!



From Seagoing Dogs of the Navy and Coast Guard. This dog is named Jim!
 
 
Glenn Close But No Cigar
13:39 / 09.07.07


Looks like it...
 
  
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