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Warren Ellis's Black Summer

 
 
xenosss
15:53 / 30.06.07
From Avatar: When the political situation in the USA becomes more than Horus can stand, he moves to take matters into his own hands. But since not all his other team-mates aren’t so eager to throw the world into chaos, an epic conflict starts to form. And no one will be safe as the bodies start to fall.

And from Ellis: That’s the question. What happens when a superhero’s pursuit of justice leads him to the inexorable conclusion that he must kill his President to save his country?

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The idea of a superhero overthrowing the government is nothing new (see the "Coup d'Etat" Authority arc), so will this series really be as controversial and novel as the publisher is making it out to be? Issue #0 is already out, and it is definitely invigorating, but the grandiose PR unsettles me. Black Summer is certainly much more specific in its politics than any other superhero-takes-over-the-world story has been, and I'm excited to see how Ellis takes this somewhere other than its been taken before.

Otherwise, I'm just being a cynical bastard. Ellis's Avatar stuff has been hit and miss for me, but this definitely looks like a hit. It may not be anything new in the end (although with Ellis, that's unlikely), but it will almost certainly be enjoyable through and through.



(more preview art here)
 
 
Spaniel
22:22 / 30.06.07
You are aware that this is actually out there?
 
 
xenosss
14:54 / 01.07.07
What do you mean?
 
 
Jack Fear
15:31 / 01.07.07
Meaning that the #0 issue, from which that preview art is taken, has already been released. Meaning that we can stop talking about the comic in the theoretical sense, and start answering practical questions like:

Have you read it?

And if so, what did you think?
 
 
Tim Tempest
22:39 / 01.07.07
I read it. Thought it was kind of fun. The conversation they have on new technologies/forms of new awareness was interesting. The thing with this comic though, is that, for me, as with most of Warren Ellis's comics, I prefer them in trade format, so that I can have the whole story at once. So I think I'm going to wait.

But you know, you all don't have to.

I'm interested though in how much media buzz is going to come up, with the murdering of the president, and all that.

Good start though.
 
 
xenosss
23:16 / 01.07.07
Jack Fear Is In The House: Meaning that the #0 issue, from which that preview art is taken, has already been released. Meaning that we can stop talking about the comic in the theoretical sense

Right...that's what I meant by "Issue #0 is already out".

Anyway, I'm definitely excited about the whole thing, I'm just curious to see if Ellis brings something new to the table. He'll definitely bring the futurist angle (complete with weird technology and strange powers), I'm sure, but let's see how this superhero-kills-the-president thing sits with the rest of the superheroes.
 
 
Imaginary Mongoose Solutions
03:49 / 02.07.07
Of course, having read #0, the question should be "what rest of the superheroes"?
 
 
Bandini
14:36 / 04.07.07
I just read the #0 issue and was struck by how much i wanted to keep reading so i'm really pretty excited about this one.
Really like the idea of the superpowers being created and also the nature of them and the relationship with modern technology (wireless, bluetooth, the internet etc).
Still never read Transmetropolitan so will have to try and polish that off soon.
 
 
Bandini
07:39 / 01.08.07
Anyone read issue 1.

Enjoyed it, really like the powers so far.

Can this be spoiler friendly now so we can start discussing the nuts and bolts of whats going on?
 
 
xenosss
14:12 / 01.08.07
SPOILER ALERT
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Read no further if you cherish the elements of surprise and suspense.

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So, do you think Zoe is insane as well?
 
 
Regrettable Juvenilia
15:26 / 01.08.07
I think it's quite a good read. I must admit to being so baffled and put off by the second flashback scene in issue 1 that my eyes glazed over, but at least this time I think Zoe, the character spouting New Scientist hyperbabble, was meant to be spouting New Scientist hyperbabble, and our viewpoint character was confused by it. For the most part Black Summer seems to epitomise Ellis’ recent back to basics approach that has yielded such enjoyable results at Marvel. You just know that the whole "my powers don't work anymore" thing is going to be a lie, but he works the formula really well. BAKERSTREET. Yeah!

And the design of John Horus is great.

I also enjoyed the twist that, having laid out the rationale for his actions so reasonably in issue 0 – in such a manner that I started to read it as wish fulfillment, almost – it’s now heavily implied that John is, in fact, just a little bit insane, or a lot.

I think a lot depends on how well the plot is handled - this could still become one of those Ellis miniseries that goes nowhere. But I hope not.
 
 
vajramukti
21:40 / 01.08.07
I'm really excited for this series. It feels pretty tight to me, and it's coming out in timely fashion, so much the better.

I had hear this was originally going to be four issues, but avatar enticed ellis to open it up to 7. I'm glad, because we probably wouldn't get as much breathing room for stuff like we saw in #1

so far as the insanity goes, I think it's a red herring. zoe is clearly a bit off, as her eyes seem to imply, but it would undermine the premise if it turns out that horus is just a lunatic. he strikes as more super-sane than anything else. I think ellis is just pointing out how the guns have more or less all self destructed, and in zoe's case she's become a projective paranoid. The only one who keeps it together is horus, who has now seemingly flipped his shit and killed the president.

art is sublime, story is a solid as can be, guaranteed finish. can't go wrong. ( fingers crossed )
 
 
vajramukti
17:36 / 26.08.07
well #2 is out this week.

what's the verdict? personally, I think this is one of the best things going for superhero comics right now, if not THE best.
 
 
Triplets
19:43 / 26.08.07
Why do you think that, vajramukti? Could you expand, a little, on why you're enjoying this comic so much? I ask because there's bound to be a few people here, like myself, who haven't picked this up yet but are intruiged.
 
 
vajramukti
20:08 / 26.08.07
hmm.

well, The 0 issue is dead cheap and it's easy enough to find out for oneself, but sure, I'll give it a go.

I guess I'd clarify and say if your tastes lean towards something besides the silver age reverential trip of ASS which I'd say is the other contender for best superhero comic right now, then black summer is on the other pole from that.

it seems like a mature example of what would come out the other end of all the deconstructionist nonsense of the last twenty years. Ellis is reigning in a lot of his tics to deliver a pretty pure working out of a compelling superhero notion. ie; where does a superhero draw the line, where does society draw it for them, and what happens if they cross it?

the characters are not fanatics, hacked up cardboard cutouts or anything like that. you feel real personalities, real pain, especially in tom noir, and the anguish of thwarted idealism, which is inevitably what would happen to a 'superhero' in anything like a real world. as the series goes on you can see them sliding into the horror of having to go to war with their own country just to save their own lives. it's an honest treatment of something on the scale of marvel civil war, I guess. You feel the real tragedy of a world that let superheroes exist for a while, as a fluke, but is now determined to wipe them out.

and in the background of all that you have john horus, who appears to be willing to destroy the country in order to save it, and it appears to be open question whether or not he's actually right to do so.

there's a refreshing lack of sentiment or reverence for fan expectation. avatar could milk this for years, but this is clearly the end of the story, whether or not they ever show a beginning. it's strong, it's direct, it's honest and there's no frills or bullshit.

On the art side, ryp's pencils practically float off the page. The compositions are holding in check a lot of the incoherent craziness of his earlier work, which you can still see in the various wraparound covers, which are all gorgeous. He's got the depth and texture of a quitely or darrow, and ellis is giving him some stronger storytelling chops here. The colors are top notch, and the thing is coming out like clockwork, which takes away the sour taste of endless delays. in fact, issues one and two came out even earlier than they were solicited.


so yeah, if the sugary sweetness of morrisson quitely on superman isn't the end all be all for you, then this firmly rules the other side of the fence right now.
 
 
Mysterious Transfer Student
20:09 / 26.08.07
I'll have a crack at it. The technobabble is intriguing in that it comes close to its intended goal, of portraying a group of very clever, realistically imperfect people using cutting edge science and technology to simulate superpowers. The character designs are pretty good (particularly panda-eyed Zoe Jump and Bubblegum Crisis benchwarmer Kathryn Artemis) and the art is high quality, something of an Ethan Van Sciver feel. The background theme of the entire team being driven quietly batty not just by their enhancements but by their unwillingness to go a moment without them feels like it could be more worthy of exploration than the political content, which still feels like a one-shot what-if that has been bolted on for marketing value - Ellis seems more interested in the themes I mentioned above, which is fine by me. I don't read enough of his stuff to find his style as annoying as some people seem to, so I'm happy to stick with it for now.
 
 
vajramukti
20:25 / 26.08.07
I'm not sure i see quite that way. the technobabble seems to be there to rationalise the things the seven guns can do, and in each case, the flashbacks illuminate something about character and motivation. without them you wouldn't see how tom went from a clean cut idealist to drunken slob. or the shock in his eyes when frank tells him how he might have to kill people. or how angela maybe has a thing for tom and she's crazy enough to cut open her own legs to implant electromagnets. or how zoe started out as the baggy clothes science hippy, and is now the shellshocked superluminal basket case.

it's no secret ellis is a tech nerd, but in this case I think it does serve the story by giving the characters rules and the world some texture, especially when you're spending those issues also tearing it all apart. I think in the latter issues this will become more clear, as he digs into the central notion.
 
 
vajramukti
20:31 / 26.08.07
and the 'never turn their enhancements off' thing is clearly a distortion on zoe's part. dominic and katherine are both shown powered down. I don't think insanity is really what ellis is getting at, except maybe to imply that zoe is a bit nuts. tom is clearly more overtly mentally unstable than anyone else, but he hasn't used his powers in some time. he goes from drunken apathetic to blubbering nervous breakdown to suicidal to violently aggressive in the space of three issues.
 
 
Bandini
10:56 / 29.08.07
Just read issue 2 and still liking it.

I don't find Warren Ellis' writing style annoying either; actually quite the opposite, i find it nice to hear a clear authorial voice running through an artist's work and it's a voice that i enjoy.
 
 
Internaut
19:39 / 01.09.07
i picked up issue one in a local store, was hassled about membership or something along those lines, and payed for it around 25 minutes later.

i was surprised, actually. pleasantly. i liked the art, the dialogue, narrative, and the overall theme. Ellis continues to please.



i managed to pick up doktor sleepless, too.
 
 
hachiman
02:08 / 02.09.07
I'm enjoying this too. Why'll many of Ellis' habits are here, [cynical drunk chainsmoker protagonist? Check.
Way neat applied tech ideas? Check.
Incredibly mean and sarcastic banter between characters? Check]

the set-up and art are great, and the creative freedom Ellis has with his own characters means the ending can be climactic and avoid cop-outs.[ I'm looking at you Un-Civil War]

I've picked up almost everything Warren Ellis has done since his 4 ish Thor and Wolverine stories, and i find that his writing lends itself best to miniseries.
Roll on issue 3.
 
 
Internaut
19:22 / 02.09.07
was i misinformed when i was told that issue #0 is in fact just a preview of issue #1?
 
 
This Sunday
19:26 / 02.09.07
The zero issue is, to my knowledge, the first chapter, and essential to the beastie as a complete story. So Ellis has said and he wouldn't lie just to get me to buy things would he?

...Anyway, yeah, I believe it's not just half the first issue or a time-wasting dance between the opening panels of issue one, or anything of that sort. New, original, not elsewhere material that matters as much as it can.
 
 
Internaut
19:33 / 02.09.07
well fuck, i knew i shouldnt have trusted that comic shop owner.
 
 
vajramukti
03:12 / 03.09.07
while I suppose you could understand the first issue without the #0, you'd really be missing out on the beating heart of the series, and the event it all revolves around.

I mean, yeah, if you know horus kills the president, then that's about all you HAVE to know, and I see picking up #1 and thinking that was it, but you don't get some really good bits of dialouge from horus, and a sense of his motivations, there's also a flashback there that sheds light on his relationship with tom, and the powers they have.
 
 
Internaut
14:37 / 03.09.07
its not so much having not picked it up, its having been assured that it was non-essential.

i'll just try find it next time im anywhere near.

thanks.
 
 
Haus of Mystery
17:30 / 04.09.07
I'm enjoying this a fair amount. Mainly probably due to my fondness for well turned out ultra-violence, and Ellis is better than most at that sort of thing. No big surprises, but a moderately novel spin on super hi-jinx.

Guilty pleasure really...
 
 
Digital Hermes
19:45 / 04.09.07
Maybe it's due to the over-saturation that others have mentioned, but when I see consistently sarcastic and foul-mouthed characters swearing at each other, I feel as though I'm not seeing real characters, so much as I'm seeing Ellis-ian cutouts, placeholders for the concepts and character-tropes that he likes to play with, and from which he doesn't often stray out of.

I guess what I'm saying here is that I'd like see Ellis work on a project that challenges him. That's not likely at Avatar(where I doubt anyone is leaning over his shoulder in an editorial capacity), as he seems to have free reign at that company.

I find the inital concept interesting, but I feel that I'm spending too much time with the 7 Guns. I'd prefer to either be with Joe Normal, dealing with this, or with John Horus, orchestrating it. That said, maybe it's a case of bad P.R.; it's been spun as 'What If A Superhero Killed an Unethical President,' but that besides some debates between the guns themselves, the story seems to dwell more in an action vein than a politcal one. (So far...)
 
 
vajramukti
23:39 / 11.10.07
and here we are again. number 3 is out and things are getting complex...

a clever little reversal from the cliffhanger of last issue. tom is mobile again, and he's ready to run it all down. His outfit is bit too midnighter-ish, perhaps, but I think it also says science-ninja-detective a bit as well.

I'm pleased to see ellis is ducking the trap of making his characters stupid, just so he can move the plot along. they're actually questioning each others motivations, rather than just bouncing off each other like pool balls.

very very strong issue. I think we could be looking at a modern genre classic in the making.
 
 
Alex's Grandma
04:42 / 14.10.07
I've sort of lost interest in this, as of the current issue.

It was quite clever for the feds to have been raiding the wrong building, but beyond that, it was all a bit, I don't know, bleurgh. The characters being so flat/loathsome (was I the only one quietly cheering when Tom got his, supposedly, courtesy of the tank?) that it's perhaps hard to care about an ending which, while unpredictable at the moment, might nevertheless feel as if it was always numbingly obvious by the end of issue 7.
 
 
Internaut
23:26 / 18.10.07
How is it that Zoe Jump could just barely outrun the Seven Guns when attempting to rescue Tom, who seemingly emerged just seconds after her?
 
  
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