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Digital Hermes
02:02 / 29.06.07
So, I might have an opportunity to produce a self-created work with a local theatre group. I've thought of pitching a magical performance. A Working, done to/for/with the audience. It'll also serve as a bit of a magical reveal for me, making public and visible something that I've never really hidden, but I don't advertise in every corner...

My current plan is to both instruct and entertain... provide some history in mysticism, my own perception of how it works and how I fit inside it, even opening and closing with the Pentagram ritual. This is still early in the process and I'm still developing the concept, but feel free to throw out any ideas or concerns that spring to mind!
 
 
EmberLeo
03:03 / 29.06.07
Magical Acts Ritual Theatre has been doing this for years, actually.

--Ember--
 
 
Pyewacket The Elder
05:38 / 29.06.07
Have you seen them Ember? If so did you get a sense of the 'magickal' during the performance - or any other attendant phenomena for that matter?

DH - Have you formulated what you would do if you take the 'ritual theater of outing' route? Sounds intriguing!
 
 
electric monk
12:10 / 29.06.07
A Working, done to/for/with the audience.

To me, this intent seems at cross-purposes with ritually outing yourself. If you're doing stuff to/for/with a group, does it need to be and should it be about you? I mean, I understand the draw that this type of big reveal might have for you. I just think it might be a more...cohesive experience if the audience is RIGHT THERE WITH YOU walking thru some history in mysticism, perceptions of how it works and how we all fit inside it rather than watching you perform yr magyxxz and talk occulty stuff. Perhaps the big reveal only needs to be you opening and closing the ceremonies with the most practiced, perfected and heartfelt Pentagram rituals you can muster. Creating sacred space like you've been doing it for years, y'know?

I guess I'm mostly talking about "what I'd do" rather than "what you should do". I'm no actor, and I'm certainly not a playwright. Just my 2, as the kids say. I'll be interested to hear more about this.
 
 
shockoftheother
14:43 / 29.06.07
This is an area I work in quite a bit & do a lot of thinking about. What strikes me immediately is that a performance about the history and and theory of magic won't necessarily be the same as a magical performance: ie, a piece of art created with magical intent. The concerns of the former might not necessarily be the concerns of the latter.

On a similar note, the requirements for successful theatre are often ignored by magicians using theatre as a vehicle for their project. This is where I think most contemporary occult theatre falls down: didacticism and three page speeches about an inscrutable point of doctrine would seem to be obvious traps to avoid, but they're surprisingly common. Over-explanation is a related problem - no audience needs to be told repeatedly what they're seeing and why it's so important, but it's easy to do if you're anxious they won't get recondite, complex symbolism. I tend to find the best solution to both of these things is to stay grounded in the human, in the personal effects of magic, something your audience can sympathise with.

Take a look at predecessors in the field: Crowley's Rites of Eleusis, Florence Farr's Shrine of the Golden Hawk and Beloved of Hathor, Rudolf Steiner's Mystery Plays (The Portal of Initation, The Soul's Probation, The Guardian of the Threshold, and The Soul's Awakening) and perhaps grab one of the DVDs of Oryelle Defenstrate-Bascule's more recent performances. All the Steiner, Crowley and Farr works are specifically mystery plays, certainly written with the medieval mystery cycles and the occult roots of theatre in mind, and, to my mind, fail as theatrical work. That partly reflects my taste, of course, but I also think it demonstrates (particularly in Crowley's case) that it's important to respect the medium in which you're working - theatre isn't the same as private ritual, and I think it's also distinct from public/open ritual.

One of the avenues I think it's important to explore is how symbolism operates for you in a dramatic context -- an array of complex qabalistic colour symbolism might resonate with an audience of magicians, but it will be lost on a wider audience. It's a question of finding something that will resonate without relying on prior knowledge. Physical theatre is particularly good at this, as it can enact ideas through the tensions and positioning of the human body. (This is why I felt that Mark Rylance's production of the Tempest at The Globe in 2005 never really attained its full potential - Rylance knows a LOT about the neoplatonic/occult streams of thought, and that came out in the play. At times, however, it didn't really wear its learning as lightly as it needed to, and it even occasionally obscured Prospero as a human being.)

A couple of obvious things: sit down with the company you're working with and let them know what's going on. I don't know what they're like in your case, but some companies that aren't formed specifically for this type of work can freak and run a mile. Also, think hard about the pentagram ritual as a piece of theatre: this is less a case of "OMGdeepdarkmagick who knows what eldritch happenings may come to pass!!" and more a case of having seen so many audiences reduced to "LOLspooky" when some guy in an ill-fitting robe waves his hands around and mutters in bad Hebrew. I think it can be done successfully, but it requires a lot of imagination.

It sounds like a fabulous opportunity, and I'd love to hear about what you come up with.
 
 
Pyewacket The Elder
15:25 / 29.06.07
To be fair the content of the ritual does not have to be self centered - the 'ritual outing' will be the result, and a powerful one, of whatever you do in as much as it is made evident that this is a part of you and you live it in your life.....even if this is a group working methinks...its a public statement inside your mind no?
 
 
Pyewacket The Elder
15:29 / 29.06.07
Hmmm - maybe you've seen THIS.
 
 
*
16:29 / 29.06.07
California Revels Christmas Revels is another good example. Very traditional mummers' play format with a different theme every year. When I went this past year it definitely had force, but I don't know how much the audience was aware of it or participating in it. Someone told me they have good years and great years, and that was just a good year.
 
 
Digital Hermes
17:54 / 29.06.07
Thanks to those who have already posted; these are exactly the points of view I'm cultivating for this project. Even if the company involved doesn't bite, it might not be a bad idea for a fringe festival, or if another venue comes along...

What's percolating is more autobiography, less dry history. And when I do use history, make it moist and personal. I've actually tried stuff like this before, but it's always seemed very Hamlet-esque: 'sit back and I'll lecture you about truths I assume you weren't aware of.' That tendency kept me back from Magic itself for a while...

The trick for me will be in finding the right blend... keeping a tone or flavour of ritual during the performance, but never slipping into something the audience isn't part of...
 
 
*
18:24 / 29.06.07
Having read over some of the posts a second time, here's what made the revels successful in my opinion:

1) Many, probably most, in the audience had been to the revels before, or understood the traditional structure of a mummers' play. This meant much of the ritual significance didn't have to be explained to them; they knew at least that there were mysterious traditions behind it, and that they would see a horn dance and someone would die and be brought back to life.

2) There was a good balance of funny and solemn. Most of the play was fairly good humored, and the death-and-rebirth moment was irreverent, just as it tends to be in mummers' plays. The horn dance, however, was downright spine-tingling and very effective IMO.

3) The music and dancing were great. Also, the plot was engaging.

4) The audience was called up to participate in a dance, which helped raise energy and build the connection with the audience.

What didn't work so well:

1) The audience could have had more of a role. There was a little bit of call and response, but there could have been more.

2) The audience could have had more of the intention made accessible. I understood certain things, I think, that other people didn't, and maybe if people got why on solstice we have a play where someone dies and is reborn, then when they get to that part they'll be throwing more of their energy behind the ritual intention.

3) The theme was French Canadian last year, so I think some of the French bits left people confused and uninterested, even though it was perfectly possible to follow without any French at all.

I would not have liked to see obviously-ceremonial handwaving. It was unnecessary. Circle was cast (or recast) as part of the horn dance. The main ritual intention was affirmed in the play's climax, although not overtly. Devocation happened as part of the closing song, I believe. Anything more obvious could happen behind the scenes, before or after the play.

I would have liked to be sure that everyone in the audience knew they were there to participate in a magic ritual, but I don't know if that was what the performers wanted. Maybe it works better for their intent if a lot of people participate who don't know what's going on.
 
 
Digital Hermes
18:33 / 29.06.07
I would have liked to be sure that everyone in the audience knew they were there to participate in a magic ritual, but I don't know if that was what the performers wanted. Maybe it works better for their intent if a lot of people participate who don't know what's going on.

That's what I'm often grappling with. I don't know if I want to preach to the converted, rather I'd like to communicate to those who might not already know, and show them why I think it's magical... and having to speak to someone who doesn't know the rituals or lingo might ensure that I don't get lost in pure theory, forgetting the living heart of the whole thing.
 
 
electric monk
18:46 / 29.06.07
What's percolating is more autobiography, less dry history. And when I do use history, make it moist and personal.

Check out Alan Moore's "Birth Caul" if you haven't already.



Here's a review of it.

Partial quote: "It's essentially an autobiography of Moore's childhood and it's not at all threatening. It is very deep and introspective but, as with the best introspection, it searches for the universal, extrapolating Moore's personal experiences to the general We. The birth caul is a thin piece of skin sometimes present at birth covering the face like a veil. Traditionally it is kept as a good luck charm. When Moore's mother died he found her birth caul amongst her effects. And from there the journey starts."

You can buy the comic here.

I have no idea where you can get the CD, but let me know if you find one!
 
 
Pyewacket The Elder
23:30 / 29.06.07
Interesting...my surname is Cauley and cauls are common in my family (although i was not born with one my father was) - these were often bought by sailors for good luck. Sorry thread-rottyitis...
 
 
Pyewacket The Elder
23:39 / 29.06.07
More on point you should check out Moores magickal performances - i saw one at an Ananke magickal symposium some years ago and it was released in comic form a while after...summink about snakes? I'm sure you'll find it...

Review here
 
 
harmonic series
03:42 / 30.06.07
Do you know what space you'll be using? I was wondering if the stage would be level with the chairs- like an extended floor- or if you would be raised above the audience and by how much. I think that one of the things that makes theatre successful is its ability to emphasize, either with or without overwheliming- depending on the goal of the piece and the nature of the audience. The project which you are considering seems to me a more personal piece- something for a smaller, friendlier venue- a place where people step over each other to sit. This way it would be easy to integrate participation- or talk on a more one-on-one level.

I wonder about a bigger theatre- higher stage- it might make the show look too fake, or worse, cheesily didactic.

What are your moral feelings about doing an actual ritual in front of an untrained audience? Would you be using them, exploiting them; yourself? If not, why not?

In my experience, it is often good to show and tell with great care.

How would you light it?
 
 
Quantum
10:49 / 30.06.07
summink about snakes

Probably Snakes and Ladders.
 
 
Pyewacket The Elder
11:16 / 30.06.07
That's it - thanks Quantum.

Moore's piece was a magickal/psychogeographical reading with sound (on a dodgy DAT player) and a lady providing performance to illustrate some of what Moore was reading.

So this is one methodology which I would posit is magickal without the actual overt use of trad ritual forms.

In many ways group rituals of yore were actually a way of telling a story (usually of a god/ess) and for the participants to be ritually run through the stages of the gods 'life' or story.

You mention an autobiographical slant to your intentions...I'm wondering if you could weave just such a story that takes in your interests and allows you to ritually move through your own story whilst using artistic licence to create an even grander vision (at least for the future).

Is this a hypersigil kind of thingummy perhaps?

In addition any ritual has a structure which can be taken as the basis for the 'sections' of your piece. What are the themes of, say, the LBRP, how do they progress and how might you present those themes in the same order but with content derived from the narrative of your life?

Just some ideas - hope inspiration strikes!
 
 
Digital Hermes
16:24 / 04.07.07
Quite a bit of the advice on here really helped as I was developing the pitch... so thanks for that right off the bat. It's mutated a bit into an active rather than passive goal; using my own narrative and experience as a bridge towards showing the fact that there is something transcendant and 'magical' everywhere... sorta. We'll see how they take it, and if not, I can always develop it for a festival.

As for the Alan Moore stuff, that is pretty much first reference points for me. I'm a huge fan, and I've read the Birth Caul, though never heard it; every so often I try to see if I can track down a copy...

In an interview regarding his magical-ness (with Eddie Campbell who adapted both The Birth Caul, and Snakes and Ladders, into comic-form. Book: Egomania 2) he had discussed how quite a few of the historically occult have involved themselves in theatre or performance, and how opera was once a method for disseminating alchemical information... (I'm thinking Mozart, probably) Interesting stuff.
 
 
EmberLeo
07:16 / 06.07.07
Have you seen them Ember? If so did you get a sense of the 'magickal' during the performance - or any other attendant phenomena for that matter?

Personally, I've only ever seen and been in their Oracles from the Living Tarot productions, and yes, those are definitely magical - but it varies card by card how much and in what way.

--Ember--
 
 
EmberLeo
07:20 / 06.07.07
I'm sorry, I don't think I'm being very helpful - I'm just back from working a week-long convention, so I'm a bit brain fried. If you have specific questions about my experience with Oracles from the Living Tarot, I can probably answer them, but it may take me a while to make less direct connections on my own.

--Ember--
 
 
Imaginary Mongoose Solutions
07:53 / 06.07.07
"...and how opera was once a method for disseminating alchemical information... (I'm thinking Mozart, probably) Interesting stuff."

There's a bit more in that vein in Gary Lachman's "A Dark Muse". He concentrates on artists and performers who were in one way or another dealing with the occult or in conversation with "occult" ideologies through their works.
 
 
Digital Hermes
17:21 / 06.07.07
There's a bit more in that vein in Gary Lachman's "A Dark Muse". He concentrates on artists and performers who were in one way or another dealing with the occult or in conversation with "occult" ideologies through their works.

This is even more interesting when you consider that ancient Greek theatre began as a method of disseminating religous information, and slowly went from sermon into narrative, often maintaining a religous focus... 'deus ex machina' as I'm sure some know, was originally the literal term for essentially a giant crane that would float in whatever diety was intervening in that play's story, and the actors were often wearing masks designed to make their voices reverberate, along with stilts to make them larger than themselves, closer to an approximation of a god.

Interesting stuff...
 
 
EmberLeo
18:47 / 06.07.07
It's very clear in my clergy training that performing arts training is a significant aspect. Performing ritual for the benefit of others is theatre where we're more concious than usual of the magic. But I must say it's not at all uncommon in my experience for those in theatre to be subvertly, or subconciously magical in their work.

If nothing else the connection between the posessory trance spectrum and method acting is significant.

--Ember--
 
  
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