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US Vice Presidents and High School Civics

 
 
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07:45 / 26.06.07
If you've been following the latest attempt of the Bush administration to weasel out of charges of gross illegality for mishandling classified documents, you know that Vice President Cheney virtually created his own branch of government by declaring himself exempt from executive orders by virtue of actually being a part of the legislative branch. (The Vice President is a member of the executive branch, and also has some peripheral legislative functions when serving as president of the Senate. This information is not classified and can be found in high school American government textbooks, but the Vice President is busy with other matters, and is not a fact-checker anyway. However, he might have checked even with The Christian Science Monitor.)

I am finding it extremely appropriate that several Democrats have now suggested that Dick Cheney's office cannot receive funding as a part of the executive branch unless he admits to being a part of the executive branch. That seems fair to me. If I were hired to work for the microbiology department of the University of California at Berkeley and then ceased to do some part of my job, responding that I do not have to because I once edited some English papers and therefore actually work for the English department of the University of California at Los Angeles, I would expect a reexamination of my eligibility for the payroll at the very least.

Alberto Gonzalez, asked to rule on this issue last January, has mysteriously not said anything at all about the matter. I would imagine if he could say anything in defense of Cheney he would have by now.

What's yet more ridiculous is that this is probably not a particularly damaging piece of information that Cheney has just voluntarily given up his payroll to conceal. The crucial piece of information, apparently, is the number of classified documents relating to detentions that have passed through the Vice President's office. Not the documents themselves, nor yet even a list of their subject headings, but how many there are.

Can this really be true, or am I living in The Onion?
 
 
Tryphena Absent
11:13 / 26.06.07
Perhaps that number is extremely high?
 
 
Tryphena Absent
11:13 / 26.06.07
On second thoughts they probably don't know the number. That would be a real fuck up.
 
 
Alex's Grandma
11:33 / 26.06.07
Who'd have thought the break-out political documentary of the summer was not, after all, going to be by Michael Moore or Al Gore, but rather Matt Groening?
 
 
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15:10 / 26.06.07
The number may indeed be extremely high, and that could be politically damaging, but easily explained away with the same stupid tactics they use for everything else: "The Vice President has been getting a great number of classified memos because there is a grave terrorist threat LOOK OUT BEHIND YOU IT'S A MUSLIM EXTREMIST!!!" No one would be paying any attention to it if they weren't trying so obviously to cover it up.
 
 
Mug Chum
05:27 / 27.06.07
Daily Show covered this last night quite nicely I thought

And, fellow 'lithers, John Oliver found in him the archetypal...

wait for it...

... Teh coyote Trickster!
 
 
Slim
23:01 / 28.06.07
For those of you that haven't seen it, the Washington Post has been running a series of stories on Cheney this week. They positively skewer him.
 
 
Jot Evil Rules During Weddings
05:02 / 29.06.07
The New York Times also had a very interesting article about Cheney that spoke very negatively about his secrecy. The fact that he is secretive is one thing, but claiming that he is not a part of the Executive branch is something completely different. While I have heard many ridiculous claims come out of the current government, I believe that this one might top them all. I could not believe that Cheney would say something like this in order to avoid all responsibility. This blatant disrespect of the rules is utterly ridiculous and people are way too complacent over it.

I am outraged that the balance of power is being eliminated, all in the name of fighting terror. The Onion came out with an article two weeks after the September 11th attacks entitled Freedoms Curtailed In Defense Of LIberty Unfortunately, this is no longer satire, it is a fact. I will save my thoughts on that issue for another thread. The idea that this administration will do anything (even breaking the Constitution) in order to "defend liberty against terror" is ridiculous. And they are hiding behind secrecy in order to not be accountable for their actions. Cheney, is at the very forefront of this and this ridiculous claim is just another way to avoid responsibility. There needs to be action, that madman needs to be stoped and his powers severely curtailed.
 
 
bjacques
13:25 / 29.06.07
It's not the *rules* that Cheney disrespects, and the last 6 years have given him good reason. Things changed a little last November, but Cheney has to stay in character (actually he *is* a scumbag so he couldn't change anyway).

500 days and Cheney's long public (haha) career comes to an end. At the finish line await the retirement goodies: lobbying contracts, board membership in Carlyle, etc. After this, Cheney's out of public (haha) politics for good. But any faltering now and some of the braver Democrats (and bitterer Republicans) might finish him off. Cheney & Co. are haunted by the memory that a lot of the Nixon gang went to jail. Do not pass K Street, do not sit on the board of any publicly-traded company.

So expect more of the same unless or until Cheney is cast into a bottomless pit for a thousand years.
 
 
Mr Tricks
18:10 / 29.06.07
The crucial piece of information, apparently, is the number of classified documents relating to detentions that have passed through the Vice President's office. Not the documents themselves, nor yet even a list of their subject headings, but how many there are.

what's also of interest is that Dick seems to have also created a whole new category "Treated as Classified" rather than simply "Classified."
 
  
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