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Corporeality and the grotesque in women's fiction: what's happening now?

 
 
posthumous parvenues
12:01 / 16.06.07
In her 1936 novel Nightwood, Djuna Barnes creates a darkly disjointed narrative about a bunch of misfit performers and outsider skulkers on the cafe-culture streets of 1920s Paris. Her work is influenced by Hoffmann, Rabelais, the circus - there's a strong sense of Bosch and it's boldness still smoulders today. Barnes (later an influence on Burroughs) wrote with a fervour and intensity comparable possibly to Miller or Poe, and the elements of the grotesque are rich.

What I want to know is - given the connection between the grotesque and female corporeality (Mikhail Bakhtin's declaration of the epitome of the grotesque body as the 'pregnant, senile hag' comes to mind), which other women use the tradition in their work, and how?

Obvious candidates are of course Angela Carter, Jeanette Winterson, Atwood and Joyce Carol Oates - but who else?

What has happened to the grotesque in literature, and how are women using it?
 
 
Quantum
12:57 / 16.06.07
What have you found so far?
 
 
posthumous parvenues
13:43 / 16.06.07
Several key theoretical works tracing the grotesque in architecture, art and lit; an interesting feminist study by Mary Russo. I posted here because I want to find and talk about more writing. So far I've been reading more work by Barnes, the poet Mina Loy, Jackie Kay and excellent shorts from Alan Warner... I also want to check out Dunn's 'Geek Love' and Wittig's 'The Lesbian Body.' Freud's intriguingly discombobulated paper on 'the uncanny' fits in, too...

I also suspect that the grotesque as a genre/method of writing is found in more off-centre narratives, folkloric tales and non-western canons, suggesting that perhaps in contemporary/globalised fiction it has somewhat slipped out of view.

Really I want to talk more about the grotesque on this, or maybe a more general level, as it seems so tucked away and not under scrutiny in recent scholarship.
 
 
STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK
14:19 / 16.06.07
It's been a few years since last I read it, so until I do again I can't really say much relevant about it, but Geek Love is an absolutely brilliant book on many levels, not least because it's an absolutely cracking story.
 
 
STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK
14:22 / 16.06.07
Actually, depending how you're taking the concept of the "grotesque", Natsuo Kirino's novel (funnily enough titled) "Grotesque" has a fairly interesting reversion. The narrator's sister is inhumanly beautiful, and described as monstrous for this very reason, both inside and out. So the corporeality is there, it's just been twisted a little from what one might expect. It's almost the uncanny valley thing- she is so beautiful that she's almost physically ugly because of it.
 
 
posthumous parvenues
16:19 / 16.06.07
Right, interesting... so would you say then it is a novel more in that uncanny territory then maybe? What do you mean by the valley thing (am a bit hazy here). Can you say more about the novel?
 
 
STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK
21:31 / 16.06.07
The uncanney valley is the point at which things become that little bit too human yet still not quite.

Kirino's novel's basically looking back over the lives of two women who have been murdered (and their possible killer) through the eyes of one's resentful sister. Physical beauty (which the narrator sees to some extent as grotesque in itself) is a pretty dominant theme. So I'm not sure if it'd fit what you're looking for, but the way I read it would almost be like an inversion of the stuff you're talking about in your initial post, but working in much the same way.

(Sorry for the incoherence- I'm at work and trying to finish this post before my boss walks past! I'll try and get back to it.)
 
 
posthumous parvenues
21:48 / 16.06.07
Interesting too that the novel came out only last year... will def check it out and post again. I think it is interesting the way that every major theory of the grotesque comes back to a socially ordering issue, so Bakhtin's work is of course a Marxist response to Stalinist Russia with a deep critique of a contemporary (to him, a late 1940s) grotesque being corrupted by the forces of capitalism. I am intrigued to find out how it manifests in this book, and if any of Bakhtin's ideas stil have such a bearing...
 
 
kan
23:05 / 16.06.07
I'm afraid I can't add much to your enquiry about Bakhtin, Rabelais or Rimbaud as I am unread in that area but I just wanted to second the recommendation of Geek Love.

I read the book over 10 years ago and I have a desperate memory but a strong impression still lingers. I couldn't remember if the grotesque narrator was male or female and having reread the back cover, think I've merged the megalomaniac Arturo the Aqua Boy with the long suffering Olympia, bald hunchbacked albino dwarf. I'm curious now to have another look.
 
 
STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK
00:55 / 17.06.07
Interesting too that the novel came out only last year...

Well, it was only published in English last year. Not sure when it came out in Japan.
 
 
Quantum
12:48 / 17.06.07
What about Suskind's 'Perfume: The Story of a Murderer'? Jean-Baptiste Grenouille is a brilliant grotesque, and it's concerned intimately with women's corporeality, albeit in a predatory way.
The film's a bit rubbish though.
 
 
shockoftheother
07:24 / 18.06.07
No text occurs to me immediately, but in terms of a theoretical framework, there are people working on similar things in other areas. In particular I'm thinking of Patricia MacCormack's work on becoming-monster and becoming-cunt as reflected in 20th century horror writing and related literature, read through Deleuze's work on the fold. Not sure if she's published anything on it yet, but it's possible it would help.

Biography here.
 
 
All Acting Regiment
12:20 / 18.06.07
I can think of plenty of films that relate to this. Not so much books, although something seems to be on the tip of my tongue.
 
 
posthumous parvenues
17:18 / 18.06.07
tip of the tongue is right... am reading Jane Gardam atm, 'Missing the Midnight' collection.... really feeling that grotesquerie sensation. Am in the BL nr chucking out time, better go, will come back to this poste haste. CS.
 
 
Shrug
18:03 / 18.06.07
Wiki link on the 'grotesque' here for anyone who might be interested, I'm not up to speed on this at all really so it may not contain the working definition anybody has in mind.

Although I would suggest looking into the writings of Julia Kristeva (and/or as elaborated upon by Barbara Creed for film)- keywords: the monstrous feminine, 'abjection', bodily excretions- as I think they cover similar ground of some sort. (Apologies if this is a very basic suggestion).

There's a limited preview of Creed's analysis here if you'd like a peek.
I for one would be interested in seeing any of the relevant/specific references you mentioned or some direction to them if they appear online.

(Hope that helps in some respect)
 
 
posthumous parvenues
21:39 / 18.06.07
So far I'm finding that of the major studies on the grotesque in art and literature, the same all-male cast of writers is wheeled out, with scant attention to women, hence my interest in unearthing this as a topic. Wolfgang Kayser (The Grotesque in Art and Literature, 1957) and Geoffrey Galt Harpham (On the Grotesque, 1982) are perhaps two examples of this.

I opened with Nightwood because it strikes me as infusing a lot of grotesque elements, both in terms of texture, nuance and imagery. Read more about the book in Jeanette Winterson's recent Guardian article here.

There is, for instance, a strong bestial line in the text - the two main characters (a lesbian and separated couple) seem to orbit varying scenes of human/animal blurring, from a Bosch-like scene in the circus to a very strange ending with a dog (something T. S. Eliot wasn't at all sure about when he came to editing Barnes' work at the time). I wonder what other people think of this extraordinary text - like the concept of the grotesque itself, it remains very hard to pin down what Nightwood is, be in a prose-poem, a novella, faux Elizabethan drama, a stream of modernist vignettes, etc.

Barnes herself drew from other authors subsequently heralded as writers of the grotesque, for example E. T. A. Hoffmann's tale 'The Sandman' (in turn the object of Freud's 1919 article on "das unheimliche"/the 'uncanny'), Rabelais' Gargantua and Pantagruel - but more than entering and continuing such a tradition, Barnes evolves the grotesque as a method of writing itself.

Back to theoretical frameworks and it is perhaps Mikhail Bakhtin's study (Rabelais and His World, trans. Helene Iswolsky, 1984) which most eloquantly links the grotesque to corporeality. Here's a concise but decent review of the study.

In terms of book-length works, Mary Russo's is perhaps the most prominent criticism on this topic - for anyone wanting to probe further, it is The Female Grotesque: Risk, Excess, and Modernity (Ldn & NY: Routlede, 1994).

--- Absolutely Kristeva's work is central, and important in this respect. I believe she may have written exclusively on the grotesque, as well as the abjection stuff.

But not to get too bogged down, I think I am pushing at a connection between the female body, the grotesque and its cavern-like and troubling association with the weird or the horrible. Angela Carter is a brilliant example of a writer who plays with this association, her stories are chock-full of the monstrous feminine, as I'm sure is an obvious point. (The Passion of New Eve is a goodun, in fact the novel Carter thought to be her best, and certainly relavent here.)

Moments of the grotesque in women's writing can be read as transgressive, comic, joyous... as well as horrible, unsettling, or haunting. In Barnes, I see it as - paradoxically - both at once. What I wonder is --- who else is running with Barnes' style/type of female grotesque, beyond the (often clunky, certainly well-tramelled) feminist writings of WInterson/Carter/Atwood et al?

Apologies if this thread is a bit OTT - am discombobulating myself!

best, CS.
 
 
All Acting Regiment
13:40 / 19.06.07
Ahh ... not written by a woman, but Edmund Spenser's long narrative poem The Fairy Queen has various things going on that relate to this - there's an allegorical monster called "Error" that is a woman with a snake's body, vomits blood, when beheaded her children come and drink the blood, which kills them - later there's (as far as we know) the first instance of a mechanical/artificial woman in English literature, where someone actually makes a woman with pearls for teeth, wire for hair, etcetera, to the general consternation of all present.
 
 
posthumous parvenues
14:55 / 19.06.07
Wow Allecto you've made me want to read Spenser (not that should need encouragement... i'm utterly clueless with the classics). Have come across similar vein in Ovid's Metamorphosis, the bit where Scylla wades into the pool poisoned by Circe and her loins and thighs turn to mad and barking dogs. Nice.
 
 
alas
16:10 / 19.06.07
Great topic! As an Americanist, the novel that first comes to my mind is Toni Morrison's Beloved, which is all about race/gender/slavery and the grotesque--the main character is grotesque and all the characters are scarred....

There's also the great short story "The Yellow Wallpaper" by Charlotte Perkins Gilman--more Gothic than grotesque, perhaps, but the grotesque is "embodied" in the eponymous paper. Arguably you might also draw on a whole slew of 19th century novels by the Brontes, Austen, Harriet Beecher Stowe's Uncle Tom's Cabin...And use Jean Rhys for the follow up on Jane Eyre in Wide Sargasso Sea--the whole madwoman in the attic thing. Which inevitably leads to Dickinson....

And there's also some earlier black women's writings like the two giants--Harriet Jacobs'Incidents in the Life of a Slave Girl that refuses the grotesque; is forced to or keeps it at arms' length (mostly in a chapter called "scenes from neighboring plantations") from the central narrator (who nevertheless endures a crippling hideout for 7 years!) and Harriet Wilson's Our Nig...

That's the top of my 19th century head. Will ponder...
 
 
grant
16:42 / 19.06.07
I haven't noticed any mention here of Frankenstein (making life out of dead body bits). Wouldn't that be the ultimate source text of the grotesque?



And if your remit allows the 1960s and forward, then Octavia Butler, who's big into bodily transformations (often tied to birth/parasitism).
 
 
grant
16:44 / 19.06.07
The Beloved might be interesting because it's also, um, haunted by bodilessness, isn't it?
 
 
STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK
18:23 / 19.06.07
There's also the great short story "The Yellow Wallpaper" by Charlotte Perkins Gilman--more Gothic than grotesque, perhaps, but the grotesque is "embodied" in the eponymous paper.

Also, apart from anything else, one of the greatest horror stories ever written imho.
 
 
ONLY NICE THINGS
20:45 / 19.06.07
The Wittig is definitely worth a look - there is a chapter in which she fantasises about eating her lover's body which is very effective.

Have you looked at Peggy Phelan at all?
 
 
grant
00:47 / 20.06.07
And a vague half-memory -- Cyril Kornbluth's wife published a fair few science fiction stories under the name C.L. Moore. I can't remember any specifics, and always got her confused with her husband (who'd sometimes be published as "C.M. Kornbluth").

But there may well be something there -- Google gives me a synopsis of "No Woman Born", which seems to be playing games with grotesque-as-beauty (or at least with ideas of the sublime):

It tells of a beautiful famous dancer Deirdre who perishes in a theater fire. Her brain is saved, and a scientist named Maltzer develops a metal body in which to place it. As a result, Deirdre is preserved, and her former manager, John Harris, is amazed by the final work. Dierdre is a featureless but beautiful golden robot in a shape that evokes but does not attempt to directly replicate that of a human female.

...Rather than being subhuman, she has superhuman abilities. As she revelas to Maltzer and Harris, her ultimate concern is that with her new abilities she will become detached from humanity. Therefore she must remain in the public spotlight in order to stay connected to what she considers her kind.


Published in 1944. I bet there's more to Moore, too.
 
 
posthumous parvenues
13:31 / 20.06.07
This is all most inspiring...
 
 
All Acting Regiment
14:29 / 20.06.07
Grendel's mother in Beowulf, also Caliban's mam Sycorax in The Tempest.
 
 
All Acting Regiment
15:34 / 26.10.07
I don't know if you're still on this project, but there's a selection of images from the BNF here of Medieval French depictions of Oedipus and the Sphynx - it might be interesting to think about how they show a violent combat with a monster as opposed to the traditional Greek idea of a dialogue. You can click through them with the arrows at the top of the page.
 
 
HCE
21:03 / 26.10.07
There's a great collection of stories called "The Origin of The Species" by Barbara Barg, and most of Barbara Comyns' stuff is good too. They can be hard to find at times depending on how the used book market is looking, but you can order the Barg, new from Semiotext(e), and the Comyns from NYRB. I'll scan in some samples and post them for you. Good topic!
 
 
Shrug
11:15 / 15.05.08
Does Kristeva speak about Mary Shelley's 'Frankenstein' anywhere? I'm trying to speak about grotesque births and Kristeva seems the best place to start unless someone like Melanie Klein has something to say on the subject. Does anyone have any ideas?
 
 
Hallo, Paper Spaceboy
21:56 / 16.05.08
Re: grotesque births. You might want to consider taking a look at Angela Carter's The Passion of New Eve, which includes a rather nasty castration scene which is also a birthing situation...
 
  
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