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The All New All Purpose Extreme Edition Thread, now 34% more extreme!

 
 
DavidXBrunt
15:22 / 13.06.07
I've started various threads recently reviewing/raving about/drawing attention to the House of Thargs cheap, news-stand reprint tile 2000 A.D. Extreme Edition. Some have taken off, other haven't.

To stop me from clogging your board up with posts every eight weeks I thought I'd start a potentially long lasting thread to discuss the issues as they are released and to flag up any contents of interest to the average reader.

The latest issue, X23, ties in with the sentient City Block on the rampage in Anderson, Psi and the Giant Stompy Robots versus Dinosaur Sized Alien Sperm in Detonator X with a GIANT ROBOT STOMPY CARNAGE theme.

The cover star is Armoured Gideon which hasn't aged terribly well. It's very 90's in style and tone but for all that is fun. Truly, you'd have to be really terrible to render Giant Robots fighting pan-dimensional entities on the border of reality as anything less than diverting. This isn't entirely bad, and you can see why Tharg commisioned more. Mind you, he commisione three lots of The Clown and Kronos Karnival.

Gideon is an endearingly designed single word vocabulary robot who comes out of no-where to prevent Lovecraftian Horrors from entering our dimension. A photo-journalist tries to prove he exists. And then it ends. It read better in installments as the recaps and jumps between episodes jar the reeader. One of the better new strips of the time, mind.

The thing that might attract people to this issue is the main B-feature. Slaughterbowl (by the obscurants darling John Smith with art from Paul "Who?" Peart) is a generic death sport story from the infamous Summer Offensive. A mild mannered man with a quiet home life and terminally ill wife is sacked from his long term job writing greeting card verses. His life spirals downward and he finds himself arrested for crimes he's sure he didn't commit. His method of getting off Death Row? Entering Slaughter Bowl, the violentest death sport of them all. Heavily armoured dinosaurs ridden by maniacal killers in a battle to the finish.

A tribute to the death sport genre that had gone out of vogue Slaughter Bowl has none of Smiths trademark semantic cleverness but displays his mordant wit and flair for introducing dozens of interesting characters. This isn't aiming for literate greatness or depth of character it's aiming to be the best mindless fun it can be, and by Jove it succeeds. Entertaining, violent, with art that is at once brilliant and bland Slaughterbowl is the sort of thing your inner Beavis (or Butthead, delete as appropriate) will love.

Both strips have downbeat endings, and the two filler tales are predictable but, having Gibbons art, pretty.

£2.99, newsies everywhere.

Anyway, if you want me to stop these posts start a petition and let me know!
 
 
Janean Patience
09:28 / 14.06.07
I appreciate these posts if no-one else does David and confining them to a single thread is sensible. Slaughterbowl I don't remember as a particular Smith highlight, though it was nice enough and avoided his usual "smell of aniseed as the memorypractors arrive through the Ernst Doorway" which, much as I enjoy it, can become repetitive. There's a sense of him writing down to the Morrison/Millar level in this one. Strange it was never followed up even though it was left open for a sequel. We got Manic 6 but no Slaughterbowl II.

Which Armoured Gideon are included? It was only ever okay, I thought, though often a highlight of the comic when in among the Fleishershit. The one with old 2000AD characters and a faithful reproduction of the pre-Prog 100 style being the best to my nostalgic tastes.
 
 
raggedman
21:08 / 14.06.07
DavidX, with your super2000 knowledge do you have any inkling of any forthcoming Ace Trucking Co extreme or collected edition or anything?
and actually anything by the wonderful Massimo?
i need it superbad...surely he deserves something from the House of Tharg?
 
 
Essential Dazzler
21:13 / 14.06.07
I would like to express my support for these thread's continuing existence. I picked up the latest EE at a service station on the way home yesterday and was really dissapointed to find you'd posted this thread between my setting off and arriving. I really wanted to announce this one.
 
 
DavidXBrunt
10:27 / 17.06.07
Ha! I win!

The latest E.E. includes only the first A.G. story, the one with the old thrills was the second extended series. As you say, it shone amongst the dross of the time but it's not a classic. It stood up quite well to a re-read though, and kept me turning the pages.

In terms of Belardinelli most of his better known stuff is already reprinted. He has been a mainstay of the E.E.s and Flesh, Harlem Heroes, The Dead, and the glorious Meltdown Man have all featured over the last couple of years. Back issues are available on some.

An Ace Trucking volume was in the pipe-line before the deal with D.C. imploded. Rebellion refocussed the line and Ace is in limbo. There'll be a book sooner or later but the attention now is on getting out all of the early Dredd, Stronty, Nemesis, and Slaine as well as more recent material that has never been collected before such as The Simping Detective (best title ever?), Nikolai Dante and recent Dredd. They're also reformatting/relaunching ranges that have cross-over appeal such asButton Man and Red Seas.


As for The House of Tharg paying tribute to Massimo there's an affectionate, insightful, two page article in the latest Meg and a recent Prog had a message from Tharg and a Star Scan of Ace Garp in the 'Great moments in Thrill Power' range. I believe they also paid royalties on all the material they're recently reprinted. Considering none of the editorial staff ever knew or worked with him and he's been absent from the Prog for half it's life that's pretty decent.
 
 
Haus of Mystery
17:52 / 17.06.07
Fun Bellardinelli fact #1:

Tom Tully calls him a cunt in the Judge Dredd Mega-History
 
 
raggedman
20:49 / 17.06.07
for why does he do so mr mac?
I always had a soft spot for Wolfie Smith...the memory of the idea more than its manifestation like. Maybe he dissed Tom while suffering one of his famous indigestions.

cheers David, I'll see what back issues i can scrounge up...a Complete Ace would be a grand edition though. Much he-he
 
 
Haus of Mystery
13:23 / 18.06.07
He apparently drew a car wrong - didn't bother to do his homework - which was vital to the point of the story. 'Cunt' seems a bit harsh perhaps.
 
 
Janean Patience
13:32 / 18.06.07
On a general 2000AD tip, does anyone know what the recent John Smith stories that are being collected are like? One's collected in Storming Heaven, which is a Frazer Irving collection and the other is in a collection all its own. I'm always interested in more Smith...
 
 
DavidXBrunt
06:20 / 20.06.07
Well Storming Heaven is well worth getting for the evolving art of Fraser. Love Like Blood is included, it's Smith, Vampires, and Werewolves.
 
 
Haus of Mystery
12:26 / 20.06.07
Which sounds highly enjoyable.

Gotta say Dave your continual rah-rahing of 2000AD made me pick up the last two weeklies, and I'm back. I'm there again, like a loyal Squaxx. The Mills series are great - oh sure they're as loose and sloppy as ever, but his firebrand writing style is such a pulpy treat. 'Defoe' in particularis an old school treat, without feeling retro. The Dredd strips have been ace, and I'm enjoying Yeowell's return to form artwork on 'detonator'.I'm just really feeling British sci-fi, and it's still pretty much the only place for original material, I've definitely got room in my weekly budget for it.

So, y'know, good work.
Tharg will be pleased with you David.
 
 
Janean Patience
12:56 / 20.06.07
Looking up that new Smith collection and discovering it's called Leatherjack, I stumbled across Chris Weston's blog. In excerpts from an interview he's very astute about John Smith:

I have a lot of time for John; he has a strong, unique voice and a wealth of that precious commodity: original ideas. He also writes some of the best dialogue in the business. While I worked with him I thought he was every inch an equal to Grant Morrison. He could have been a contender, but I think his stories are undone by a grasshopper-like capacity to flit from one mad idea to another, often in search of an ending that refuses to materialise.

and very honest about working on Rogue Trooper with Michael Fleisher:

Scavenger of Souls was a complete and utter waste of time, paper and my effort. It was ten issues of tedious dross, purely written to reintroduce the whole concept of the biochips and Rogue's talking equipment. Beyond that it had no merits as a story whatsoever. On the plus side it did at least signify the end of Mike Fleisher's run on the character which was one of the worst things to appear in 2000ad.
 
 
Haus of Mystery
15:57 / 20.06.07
Fuck me, those were the days.Seemingly endless series like 'Junker' and 'Harlem Heroes' that felt like taking drugs. Bad drugs.
Weston's comments on Smith are indeed spot on. Beyond 'Cinnabar' and 'killing Time' he's rarely found his mark with endings, but the journey's such a treat. I bought the 'Red Tide' Devlin collection a while ago, and the Yeowell drawn 'Sirius Rising' is fucking dinner. Some of the finest Yeowell art, bold and confident with a pop-sheen, and Smith firing on all weird cylinders. He always had a real way with supporting character's names and tech/hardware names. It was the details that always pleased me about his work the most.
 
 
ONLY NICE THINGS
18:16 / 20.06.07
Scavenger of Souls was at least quite pretty, if I recall... The whole Friday Rogue Trooper thing does feel like an odd dream though, doesn't it?
 
 
Janean Patience
19:18 / 20.06.07
I liked War Machine, the Gibbons/Simpson Friday story that began it all, well enough to pick up a Heavy Metal that collected the whole thing with extra pages. And the original Rogue had wandered so far from his Nu Earth glory days by that point that a reboot wasn't a bad idea. But sweet fuck every Friday story that followed was bad, I mean so awful that they couldn't be read. The eye was repulsed from the page because of the jagged, overfinished art (Weston's stint an exception), the writing seemed always rushing to get somewhere but never to arrive, and it dragged on for years. Disadvantage of an anthology comic: sales can't refect an individual comic's unpopularity.
 
 
DavidXBrunt
11:40 / 21.06.07
Ah, Leatherjack. Right. That's a very recent series re-uniting Smith with yon mon who drew Firekind and it's pretty much on a par with that series. It's a space opera epic with burning books, censorious old biddies, obese naked villains, and a homicidal Hartley Hare. It ran for something like four months so it's a decent length too.
 
 
Haus of Mystery
14:12 / 21.06.07
Can we call you X-Brunt and pretend you work in Tharg's Nerve Centre?

Read yesterdays prog - another strong issue. Wagner & Macneil on a promising Dredd multi-parter; some truly lovely Yeowell art on 'Detonator X', but the cherry in the cake for me is still 'Defoe' - it's as ludicrous and overwrought as the best Mills stories, with suitably scraggy artwork. Sure isn't high art, but there's a manic energy at work that's infectious.
 
 
DavidXBrunt
11:34 / 22.06.07
You can call me what you like, as long as you call me...

Yeah, I'm loving Defoe. It's got a great vibe to it and it's as daft as hell. I thought Greysuit suffered from showing what we were told last week, but still it's all good.
 
 
Haus of Mystery
11:45 / 22.06.07
yeah... I feel 'greysuit' might be somewhat compromised by the six page format. It's going for a heavy espionage/political vibe, but feels like a badly edited TV show. I do like it though, and appreciate Mills trying out new stuff.
One of the things that appeals to me is the lack of 'old favourites' in the Mag at the moment. Much as I love Nemesis and Strontium Dog, I don't want to see them rehashed for an ageing fanboy audience. That felt like a creative cul-de-sac, and I'm glad to see them trying out new, and different strips.
 
 
DavidXBrunt
08:45 / 30.07.07
Not long until the next issue - this Wednesday or next, I can't remember. Pat Mills times two in the Weekly, interviewed and writing Dredd in the Monthly and now Pat Mills reprint in the Bi-Monthly.

The Rise and Fall of Ro-Jaws and Hammerstein is up for reprinting and it's the long, final story for The Ro-Busters team. Bickering robots, a creepy doctor droid, and a musical finale. Proper old school thrill power!

After that it's rumoured to be...Mean Arena. Not sure how I feel about that one. I was looking forwards to The Mind of Wolfie Smith.
 
 
Janean Patience
11:45 / 30.07.07
The Rise and Fall of Ro-Jaws and Hammerstein is up for reprinting and it's the long, final story for The Ro-Busters team. Bickering robots, a creepy doctor droid, and a musical finale. Proper old school thrill power!

With art by Kevin O'Neill, no less. I remember this as the only Ro-Busters story (apart from the heartbreaking tale of Charlie) which really did anything fun, even though it was just a rambling chase. It came from that strange year of 2000AD when it was printed on decent paper which, at least last time I checked my collection, hadn't deteriorated into flaking yellow fragments as much as what followed. Recommended...
 
 
DavidXBrunt
10:50 / 10.05.08
First issue in forever not to focus on future sports, and the first a-list thrill since Dredd and Rogue.

The Slaying of Slade is pretty, funny, and cheap at 2.99. Robo-Hunter remains arguably the best comedy strip 2k ever published, certainly the most succesfulm, and the one that helps prove that things should be left alone. Anyone who wants Ace Trucking reviving should look at the relaunched RoboHunter from the 90s.
 
 
Janean Patience
15:05 / 10.05.08
Is this the one where Slade spends two issues trapped in a chair? I loved that story.
 
 
Janean Patience
21:23 / 11.05.08
Storming Heaven is well worth getting for the evolving art of Fraser. Love Like Blood is included, it's Smith, Vampires, and Werewolves.

Storming Heaven
is actually well worth getting because it's ace and a perfect little microcosm of what 2000AD does best, by the way. A good John Smith story that creates a world and tears it down in six episodes, a sci-fi psychedelia epic that rewrites the Summer of Love with sturm und drang and battles in the sky, a really very odd and bleak story about flying men and the morals of warfare, and a bunch of Future Shocks some of which are extremely pedestrian and some of which are just great. It's the best of all the new 2000AD, by which I mean post-millennium I guess, stuff I've read.
 
 
DavidXBrunt
11:01 / 14.05.08
Storming Heaven wsa written by Gordon Rennie probably the only writer apart from John Wagner who understands how to write Dredd today. Shame he's away from comics these days as not only was a decent writer he'd started hald a dozen or so ongoing Dredd stories as well as the ensemble war story the 86ers set in the world of Nu-Earth which was just getting interesting and Cabalilstics Inc, one of my favourite thrills has been left dangling with the conclusion to it's third act on haits.

It's like Dan Dare all over again.

Storming Heaven is good but frustrating. Originally it was going to be longer but editorial were persuaded to truncate a lot of strips by a publisher who wanted 48 page stories to repring in European hardback collections. It never came to pass though.
 
 
DavidXBrunt
20:31 / 01.07.08
Remember in the olden days when a comic would fold and they'd merge a few strips into another comic in the hope that a few of the readers would jump ship? And they'd always break the news with 'Good news, readers!'? Well good news readers...

Looks like the Extreme Edition is no more. In it's place the Judge Dredd Megazine is going to come with a card covered reprint each month. It also looks like modern material is going to be favoured with The Jock Dredd starting the ball rolling in 7 weeks.

Jock is a great artist and his work on Dredd is stunning stuff. I think the Mike Carey scripted 13 is coming too. That should work well as a single sitting read, but it's a slight, staggering story that never really takes off. Still, Liverpool, sinister cabals and topless blonde uberwarriers.
 
 
Janean Patience
21:24 / 01.07.08
Storming Heaven is good but frustrating. Originally it was going to be longer but editorial were persuaded to truncate a lot of strips by a publisher who wanted 48 page stories to repring in European hardback collections.

It's Leviathan I thought suffered most from restricted length. All that about the size of the ship, and within 6 pages they're at the heart of a 40-year-old secret.
 
  
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