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luke hugh
13:47 / 08.06.07
ever listen to rap? do you want to listen to classified? just thought id post something. does anybody else out there know any songwriters who sing about reality and the same ol same ol everyday themes in life.
 
 
Regrettable Juvenilia
14:08 / 08.06.07
ever listen to rap?

Yes!

do you want to listen to classified?

I don't know, can you tell me something about him?

does anybody else out there know any songwriters who sing about reality and the same ol same ol everyday themes in life.

Yes!
 
 
luke hugh
14:54 / 08.06.07
hes a musician. google him for jes sake
 
 
Feverfew
15:04 / 08.06.07
Well, yeah. People could do that. Except that the music forum's more about elucidating your love / dislove for something rather than saying "X is good! Want to know more about X? Go look it up yourself, lazy mclazy!"

Could you provide some more detail about that which you love?
 
 
luke hugh
15:09 / 08.06.07
well i just like when there are little things posted to check out. you tube classified i guess is more than i can say. hes canadian, and hes a rapper and i like him thought telling ppl his name was enough and that ppl comment about what there impression was. i like the post modernism of the video i thout ppl on this sight would like the self awareness aspect of the video hard to be hip hop fuuuunnnny shiit right there man hahaha
 
 
STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK
19:05 / 08.06.07
You know, we could save Tom a whole load of bandwidth by only ever having the one Spectacle thread in which people would just go "have you heard/seen/read (insert name of thing here)?" and we could all go off and Google them.

Alternatively, we could try to actually have an INTERESTING board.
 
 
Mon Oncle Ignatius
19:09 / 08.06.07
Right. Luke, could you even maybe post some links so we don't have togo and look Classified up, but so that you could even entice us into wanting to find out more, and perhaps - if it seems interesting - then discuss Classified's music?

Though you never know, someone here might already have heard Classified? Anyone?
 
 
Spaniel
19:18 / 08.06.07
I know I always say this but... jokesuit?

"Sight" not "site". No punctuation. Flying in the face of board etiquette with his refusal to expand.
 
 
MattShepherd: I WEDDED KALI!
19:25 / 08.06.07
There's a slim chance that hailing (purportedly) from NS, the gentleman might be French (Acadian) and there might be a bit of a language barrier at work here. Although I'm bilingual, and the last time I checked the French language also had capital letters and paragraph breaks.

Hang on a sec.

Yes. Yes, it still does.
 
 
STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK
19:25 / 08.06.07
I know I always say this but... jokesuit?

Your faith in humanity is an inspiration to us all, Boboss.
 
 
Spaniel
19:35 / 08.06.07
Nah, I just reckon humanity is queueing up to take the piss out of us.
 
 
luke hugh
01:16 / 11.06.07
this site is really nuts. i had no idea music and comics was so formal. yallll fu fuf fu fu dhuuu. computers are great fer conversin too bad yalll just got nuthin interestin to say besides critique after critique of ppl and threads.
 
 
Seth
03:17 / 11.06.07
When it comes to not having anything interesting to say I rather think that you'tre leading by example in this thread. The responses you've received are asking you, the person who likes Classified, to explain more about why you like him and why we might too.

That's how we like things here. If you don't like that then please send me a private message with your password so I can give your suit to someone who has has repeatedly tried and failed to get on Barbelith. Someone who actually reads the site, knows what it's like, appreciates it and wants to be here and contribute something of worth.
 
 
Regrettable Juvenilia
07:22 / 11.06.07
Is it Classified?
 
 
Our Lady Has Left the Building
11:28 / 11.06.07
Luke, do you happen to be Classified by any chance, or do you just share the same first name and live in the same area?

Wikipedia article. Check the note in the discussion.

Are you any of the people in the comments beneath this YouTube?

Blimey, it's taken me about two minutes to give more to this discussion than you, and you started the thread!
 
 
*
14:52 / 11.06.07
Wow. If that is Classified then this is a STELLAR example of how not to market your music online.

The right way:

"Hey, I make hip-hop, here's where you can find a sample. What do you think?" (Productive discussion follows.)

The wrong way:

"Google this! No I can't be bothered to tell you why! I use my incomparable wit to make myself look like an asshole now!" (Irritation follows, culminating in asshole storming off the board in disgust, and the rest of us having a smidgen less patience with which to deal with the next asshole.)

This is just bad marketing. Learn how to talk about your music, Luke. Or do you just not have anything worthwhile to say at all? If you don't have anything worthwhile to say about your music, how can there be anything worthwhile you're saying with your music?
 
 
Regrettable Juvenilia
14:56 / 11.06.07
Er, not to defend this thread, but is there any evidence that luke hughes = Classified? Maybe we shouldn't assume that, eh?
 
 
Closed for Business Time
14:58 / 11.06.07
If you don't have anything worthwhile to say about your music, how can there be anything worthwhile you're saying with your music?

Actually, I think this an unfair assumption - or was that an accusation? Not everything that is communicable by music (even music so bound up with verbosity as hip-hop) is communicable by words. The relation is not, I repeat, not transitive.
 
 
Spatula Clarke
15:49 / 11.06.07
Although you'd think it might be an idea to at least make the attempt.
 
 
Feverfew
16:45 / 11.06.07
Unless there's a particularly stellar reason to keep this thread open, I'm thinking locking and sinking is The Way Forward.

I dare people to prove me wrong.
 
 
*
16:46 / 11.06.07
Right. That's why there's an "if" in there. If not, please ignore. Sorry that I didn't stress that more.

No, I'm sorry, I'm not convinced. I think that if music has something worthwhile to say, in words or not, it can be talked about and around in words even if the medium not wholly effective. Viktor Kissine's amazing new composition Aftersight clearly says things that cannot be said in words, but I can also talk to you about why you should hear it—it was for me a perfect balance between harmony and dissonance that had me on the edge of my seat for the maybe half-hour or 45 minutes I heard it performed. The music never let me rest, an experience that I never thought would be quite so pleasant.

If—hypothetically—an artist were to try to market their work in a text-based environment without being willing to write something about what makes their work special, I'd be in doubt about whether they believed in their own work. Someone left without anything to say about their work still strikes me as someone who has nothing to say with their work, especially in a medium that is as verbally dependent as hip-hop. If the work they produce is meaningful to them, they can at least tell us how they feel about it, what brought them into hip-hop or sculpture or dancing or whatever it is, and what makes their work different from that of others in the same genre.
 
 
Closed for Business Time
16:53 / 11.06.07
ERD: Granted, as far as posting to R & M goes, one should be prepared to make more than an "I like X, I do not like Y" or "Go check out Z" statement. This incidentally is the reason I don't post much in here - I love music as appreciator, composer and performer, but I have precious little to say about it. Even after having written copy in my spare time over the last 3 years (very intermittently, I hasten to add) for a Norwegian festival I find that I have less and less to say about why or how I find a particular band/artist/sound/genre interesting. I'm perfectly able, as a copywriter, to make bands, small or big, sound interesting to the average joe/discerning hipster, but I nonetheless find that I'm left vaguely put off by my efforts. Of course, said efforts are marketing efforts, and a far cry from any labour of love-ish sort of writing.

That reminds me - a lot of my friends and acquaintances who are active musicians absolutely loathe the way PR types, label types, managers, promotors and journos try to frame their discourse into one that fits the market logic, usually by employing copious amounts of bragging, name-dropping and chest-beating, as well as the sexing up obv. Urg. I have more to say about this, but that's for another thread. Any music-critical meta-threads around?
 
 
Feverfew
16:55 / 11.06.07
There are a few on criticism in general, but I think it's an interesting topic that it merits it's own thread, so if you feel like it, please go for it.
 
 
Less searchable M0rd4nt
16:58 / 11.06.07
I'm sure there's more than one Luke in Nova Scotia, but it does look a tad fishy really.
 
 
Evil Scientist
10:52 / 12.06.07
Some chucklehead appears to have hijacked an old suit (or had it donated by the original owner).

It's probably not this Classified fella (one presumes rap singers write better than this). Easy enough to stealthily change the name and wait for the (prev....) to vanish. Then on with the reality tunnel expansion.

Either way, if the clown raises his head again can we snip it off?
 
 
Regrettable Juvenilia
11:39 / 12.06.07
At this point I'm tempted to lock this thread just to stop the amateur sleuthing. The huge irony of all this is that I had a brief listen to Classified's 'Find Out' and it didn't sound bad. Now the poor chap has had to deal not only with an annoying fan but with Barbelith accusing him of being said fan.
 
 
Our Lady Has Left the Building
18:54 / 12.06.07
You see 'amateur sleuthing', I say 'I'm Donal Macintyre'...
 
 
luke hugh
03:26 / 14.06.07
no i am not classified. i do live in the same area. im not going to go on and on or do anything besides give you his name and song title. its alll you need. . just tryin to let anyone on the site maybe find something interesting.and where the fuck is the rules saying i got to go on and on all this info find it out yourself or move on. im not gonna be pussy whipped by anybody except my mom so anybody saying how things are "done" in this digital community can go back to fingering their pets.
 
 
STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK
03:44 / 14.06.07
*sigh*

It's a DISCUSSION BOARD. We discuss stuff. On a board. A board of discussion.

We don't just SAY stuff and let everyone else find out for themselves.

Why do you like Classified? Why should I go and seek his stuff out in preference to anything else I could find? What do you like about him? Cos it's a big internet out there and I don't have the time to look up everything just because I've heard the name if I have no idea what it's all about. And here we've got a Music forum, which is really handy because it means people can discuss music and tell each other why they might like an artist.

So please... do.
 
 
illmatic
06:46 / 14.06.07
im not going to go on and on or do anything besides give you his name and song title. its alll you need

No, it isn't. I actually need a bit more, I'd like to be convinced that listeners to his music actually have some brain cells, I'd like to hear a powerful recommendation, then I might be inspired to check him out. Why else would I bother to check out the random recommendations of an internet pleb? The internet is full of fucking drivel, but you think we just should then sit there downloading every random name that drifts our way.
 
 
Regrettable Juvenilia
07:41 / 14.06.07
I'm moving to lock this thread - reasons here.
 
  
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