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28 Weeks Later (Spoilers no doubt)

 
  

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Triplets
23:30 / 28.05.07
As others have said for it's merits the film has a gaping wound (and not the only one) where Pre-Zombie Carlyle walks all the way through a secure military installation unquestioned. How does a pass for residential buildings work for a military base (that's presumably on a different security system) anyway? Eh?
 
 
sleazenation
18:15 / 29.05.07
Well, His character does state he has an Access All Areas pass...
 
 
Quantum
20:21 / 29.05.07
...and demonstrates it early on in the film as an obvious set up for the later spread of the rage.
 
 
Seth
21:25 / 29.05.07
How does a pass for residential buildings work for a military base (that's presumably on a different security system) anyway?

Wasn't it the basement of a Canary Wharf building that they'd commandeered?
 
 
Liger Null
22:10 / 29.05.07
The fact that the mass infection was, if not caused, then definitely initiated by the US military's stupid decision to lock all the non-infected citizens up like cattle in a confined space where one single infected could start a exponential chain reaction of infection was another Chilling/Damning Indictment Of US Military Cackhandedness In The Face Of Crisis.

Not to mention leaving that one door unlocked & unsecured, which is unbelieveably stupid even by U.S. Military standards. All in all, too much of this film's plot hinged on the stupidity/cowardice of the characters. It lacked the heart and hopefulness that made the first one transcend the zombie genre to become something really special.
 
 
sleazenation
22:34 / 29.05.07
Which door that was left unlocked?
 
 
Quantum
22:37 / 29.05.07
It's not impossible that it could be carried by birds, but it's pretty unlikely.

Well in the first film the crow infects Frank with that drip of blood in his eye, so it's tenuously possible an infected carrion bird flew over the channel. But in 28 Weeks, the shot of the crashed chopper and bloodstained pic etc. at the end left very little doubt about what happened, Andy carried it over the channel and disaster ensued. I was amazed at how difficult people found it to follow, one person in the cinema said at the end "Was that them coming out of the channel tunnel?".
 
 
Quantum
22:39 / 29.05.07
Which door I think Liger means the one Rob Zombie Carlyle broke down at the back of the room.
 
 
Triplets
06:47 / 30.05.07
Well, His character does state he has an Access All Areas pass...

Oh, I know; I should've been clearer. I just find it rubbish and a bit ridiculous that Zombert Carlyle can walk through a secure quarantine centre like a park.
 
 
distractile
14:36 / 07.06.07
Just seen this for the second time. Inevitably, most of it is considerably weakened when you know what's coming (with the exception of the bit with Mrs Zombie Carlyle, which is even more unwatchable). But it's still well assembled and the nitpicking seems misplaced to me. On repeat viewing, it's clear that Rob Zombie can walk in to see his wife because she's in a makeshift holding cell - he's there before the military can make her more secure. Or dead. Though how he tracks them to the Charing Cross Jubilee Line (and how they get in there) remains a mystery to me.

All in all, too much of this film's plot hinged on the stupidity/cowardice of the characters. It lacked the heart and hopefulness that made the first one transcend the zombie genre to become something really special.

I don't really see stupidity or cowardice per se - one of the things I like about this movie is how remorselessly it sets up the proposition that the only way to survive is to give up your humanity (much as Cillian Murphy's character comes to realise in 28 Days Later). I can't say I saw a lot of heart or hopefulness in the first film but it's certainly true that there's precious little of either in this one.

In fact, all the critical errors of judgment are basically the result of people being, well, people: the kids sneaking out in contravention of the rules; Mrs Carlyle forgiving her husband; the medic wanting to preserve the children in the hope of finding a cure; the sniper opting to help, rather than slaughter civilians; Tammy (possibly) ignoring Andy's contamination; the copter pilot evacuating them ... the only time anyone's a coward is Carlyle, at the beginning, and even that is understandable (if not admirable) under the circumstances.

Not too keen on the ending, though: it makes a good image, but I'd rather have had something more ambiguous. I thought there was going to be a bit of misdirection whereby Tammy, rather than Andy, turned out to be the carrier and sole survivor ...
 
  

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