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Mike Gravel

 
 
grant
15:57 / 11.05.07
Tell me everything you know about Mike Gravel.

I know during a debate, he accused Clinton and Obama of indicating they were willing to use nuclear weapons on Iran. He did it to their faces. (He may even have been right.)

And I know that because R. Stevens of diesel sweeties is a Gravel fan. There's a YouTube of that moment linked in Stevens' blog there.

What else do I need to know?
 
 
grant
16:00 / 11.05.07
Oh, and he told C-SPAN he'd legalize marijuana.
 
 
Pingle!Pop
09:48 / 14.05.07
Tell me everything you know about Mike Gravel.

That he's the only one of the Democratic candidates who could be called left-wing, doesn't stand a chance and acknowledges that fact himself, but it'd be lovely if he could get a load of the primary votes and prove that the left as a movement in the USA isn't completely dead. (Which is true - but it is dead as far as pretty much every elected official in the country is concerned. However, it's perhaps notable that a number of the newly-elected Democratic lawmakers last year, including Jim Webb and Jon Tester, were elected on populist /fairly leftist platforms.)

On the "Obama or Clinton would nuke Iran" thing - all the main three candidates (those two and Edwards) are hard-right on Middle East politics, other than each acknowledging to various degrees that the Iraq war (as to call it an "occupation" would presumably be political suicide) is Rather Bad. I'm not sure if any of them have explicitly mentioned or been asked about nuclear weapons at any point, but Obama and Edwards have both taken a "nothing off the table" line to the best of my knowledge, and while I'm unsure of Clinton's position, she's generally considered more hawkish than either.
 
 
grant
16:55 / 23.05.07
Interesting Mother Jones profile of Gravel.

Where was it on here that someone was asking what a left-libertarian would look like?


Yet to progressives of a certain vintage, myself included, Gravel is hardly an unknown. During the 1960s, he was somewhat notorious for making public the Pentagon Papers, fighting nuclear testing and nuclear power as well as the Vietnam War, and cutting legislative deals that helped stop the draft.

Born into a working-class French Canadian family in central Massachusetts and educated in Catholic schools, Gravel moved to Alaska after serving a stint in the Army Counter Intelligence Corps in the 1950s. He worked as a brakeman on the Alaska Railroad and made some money as a property developer on the Kenai Peninsula before winning a seat in the state legislature and then the U.S. Senate. He lost that seat in 1980—the election that would send Republican Frank Murkowski to Washington— and has been largely absent from the political stage for a quarter century. When I met with him last week, he wasted no time before getting down to a few admittedly radical bits of business, chief among them his proposal to eliminate the income tax and the IRS and replacing them with a national sales tax.



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Along with getting rid of the income tax, Gravel wants to "bring control of government into hands of the people," by which he means setting up a national initiative system allowing citizens to bring proposals to a popular vote. He insists, somewhat optimistically, that the American people would back gay marriage, if given the chance in a national initiative vote. Ditto on the war on drugs

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Such proposals might be familiar fringe-candidate fare, but it is on the issue of the Iraq war that Gravel could prove embarrassing to the Democratic mainstream by relentlessly pointing out that Democrats could stop the war—if they choose to exercise their legislative power.
 
 
Jot Evil Rules During Weddings
21:50 / 27.06.07
Last time I checked he only had about $400 in contributions to his campain, I feel pretty bad for him. He does not stand a chance at all because too many people write him off right away as being too liberal without actually knowing what his policies are. I am glad this thread exists to put his ideas out there.

While Gravel has been in many of the debates, his participation has been a lot more limited than the other candidates, although he has had publicity for what many believe to be far-left comments. I think that he is doing this because he is trying to ruffle some feathers, he is trying to get his voice heard in the large Democratic field. And also he believes, which I somewhat agree with, that the main candidates are too similar. That they would just uphold the status quo without making really large changes to the country. This is something that he wants to bring attention to, even though he knows he has no chance of winning
 
  
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