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Music as Haram

 
 
Leigh Monster loses its cool
23:42 / 01.04.07
I'm currently doing a paper attempting to focus on the debate within Islam as to whether music is halal (permitted) or haram (forbidden).* Arguments against the use of music tend to focus on three specific passages in the Koran (quoted from these sites):

1) "Do you marvel at this statement, and laugh and do not weep, while you amuse yourselves (proudly) in vanities? Rather, prostrate before Allah and worship Him." (53:59-62) Here, "vanities" is interpreted to indicate and/or include music.

2) Allah addressing Satan: "And excite any of them whom you can with your voice. Assault them with your cavalry and infantry, be a partner with them in their wealth and children, and make them promises. But Satan promises nothing but deceit" (17:64) "With your voice" is interpreted to mean singing and music, singing and music thus being temptations of the devil.

3) "And there are among men those who purchase idle talk in order to mislead others from Allah's path without knowledge, and those who throw ridicule upon it. For such there will be a humiliating punishment." (31:6) "Idle talk" is read as music.

Scholar Mustafa Sabri argues here that, Firstly, music is a useless activity which in fact, is a state of passiveness . . . Secondly, the benefit and pleasure taken from music involves a meaning of deep slavery in passion. Since Islam is the only enemy of passiveness and slavery in passion, an important duty of Islam is to search their traces in unexpected hide-outs.

The second argument seems as though it could be related to a Buddhist concept of passion, where passion and desire are obstacles to achieving higher consciousness. Sabri likens the state of the mind while listening to music to the state of the mind under the influence of alcohol, where reality is distorted because emotions are heightened. Music, particularly instrumental music, has also historically been associated in Arab culture with drinking and sex, since at one point it was mainly harem girls who learned to sing and play instruments.

The first argument I have more trouble understanding, and the intensely utilitarian view of what makes something allowable or not scares me a little, but it does set up the premise under which Koranic recitation is permissible, despite the fact that it is a type of singing--it is not "useless," because it teaches the Koran and brings the mind to Allah. What I'm interested in are the ways in which Koranic recitation differs concretely from other kinds of music--what differences in musical structure and effects on the listener make it sacred, where other music is profane? What is a sacred effect of music, as opposed to a profane one? How is this distinction made? Can you see the argument against music or against certain types of music as helpful towards people achieving holy apprehension?




*My knowledge of Islam is very limited so please correct me if I am misusing terms or misunderstanding concepts.
 
 
Ticker
12:39 / 02.04.07
Well...I have a question regarding the translations of the Quran...

Would it be unlikely that the Prophet of Islam would not directly use the terms music/singing/playing? These things existed very clearly during his era and he seems to have made some direct statements about allowed and unallowed activities by name in other sections, yes/no?
 
 
Unconditional Love
14:24 / 02.04.07
I first thought of what parts/relations of islam employ music and how and why, here are some links, maybe they will help.

Sama

Qawwali
 
 
Leigh Monster loses its cool
16:05 / 02.04.07
XK--yeah, that is one of the (pretty obvious, I think) arguments used by Muslims who don't feel that music ought to be considered haram--God wouldn't just forget to mention to Muhammad, "Oh and by 'idle-talk' I mean music. Write that down."

Sufism is a whole different, and far more liberal and mystical brand of Islam, of which music is an integral part. Obviously there are many more conservative sects of Islam that also allow and celebrate music. I'm not trying to perpetuate the idea that Islam in general is against music, I'm just trying explore an attitude towards music that's unfamiliar to me. I'm a musician and consider music sacred without exception, and it's strange to me to see it labeled harmful or dangerous from a religious viewpoint. I don't know to what extent such a discussion can be had without including the politics associated with that viewpoint, or whether people feel those politics make everything else associated with them worthy of being dismissed.

Anyway, one of the the things that was interesting to me was the way that those who believed music ought to be haram often cite the fact that music has been proven to have physical effects on the body. What those effects are, is never stated in the argument, except in vague general terms of "arousal." There does seem to be a lot extreme anti-sex thinking involved here. However, another part of it is a focus on the concept of dignity; a person can only be dignified in his natural state, and music, like alcohol, effects that state--that effect is bad regardless of what it is because it is unnatural and/or illusory. There are also those who believe that unaccompanied singing is alright and only instrumental music is haram, because the voice is natural while instruments are not.
 
 
grant
16:16 / 02.04.07
Hmm. Islam would also be vexed because it builds on what Christians call the Old Testament, especially the Pentateuch ("People of the Book" and all), which has plenty of things to say about music, not all of which is necessary complementary. You may find this pdf useful in discussing OT music.

In Islam Jesus is regarded as a prophet, and was OK with the lifting up of voices (see Matthew 26:30 & Mark 14:26). There seems to be a distinction between voice and instrument, though -- at least according to the sermon I found those citations in.


I don't know how much emphasis is given to pre-Quranic scriptures and commentaries within Islam.

You might also find this rather long argument useful -- it seems to engage the same verses you mention above by, um, attacking the interpretations in the hadith and saying the Quran is a COMPLETE BOOK. But there may be something....
 
 
grant
16:18 / 02.04.07
Heh -- just realized that your "these sites" was two links, the second of which was the one I just linked to.

Aren't I the silly one....
 
  
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