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Judge Dread Banned Issues Query

 
 
Mark Parsons
20:23 / 11.03.07
This will be ancient info for you UK folks, but I was wondering if the CURSED EARTH progs satirizing US Fast Food mascots/companies was ever reprinted, for instance in the Titan CE collection? They're absent from the new collections which of course means that my collector-fanboy lizard brain is insisting that I find the offensive contraband material before I can proceed with the rest of the Dread Files collections (or whatever the new volumes are called)

PS: is it true that Millar and Ennis wrote crappy dread tales in their 1990's runs?

PPS: Any recommendations on other great 2000AD series? I know Nemesis, Strontium Dog, but am a noob on everything else.
 
 
sleazenation
20:30 / 11.03.07
I believe the Buger boys and Jolly Green Giant parts of the Cursed Earth storyline have never been reprinted and, as far as i'm aware, never will be as a means of avoiding costly lawsuits.
 
 
sleazenation
20:35 / 11.03.07
As for Ennis - he wrote some terrible Dredd stuff in 90s and some of his Dredd strips were reprinted a few years ago,

On recommendations for other 2000AD strips _ Hewligan's Haircut was great fun - Jamie Hewlett and Peter Milligan goodness...
 
 
Spatula Clarke
21:59 / 11.03.07
Somebody around here uploaded scans of the two 'lost' Cursed Earth episodes a while ago. Can't remember who, but you'll probably be able to find the relevant post by searching around on Google - it may be that the download links are still working.
 
 
miss wonderstarr
22:34 / 11.03.07
Those pages were cut from the original 1980s Titan reprint.
 
 
Miss K
08:11 / 12.03.07
I've read those progs and they're good, fun interludes but far from the corruscating anticapitalist satire you'd expect from Pat Mills. The storyline of The Cursed Earth doesn;t suffer from their excision.

In terms of recommendations, I stopped reading 2000AD many years ago, but I still remember Peter Milligan's many excellent contributions with great fondness - the aforementioned Hewligan's Haircut, Sooner or Later, Tribal Memories, The Dead, which was an extraordinary and hallucinatory story with wonderfully grotesque art by Belardinelli, and perhaps the best, Bad Company, a trip into the heart of darkness depicting Earth fighting an unwinnable war in space with The Krool. Possibly the darkest thing ever printed in 2000AD, also very funny at the same time.

Also worth chasing down are the first run of stories by Pat Mills featuring the ABC Warriors, and "The Rise and Fall of Ro-Jaws and Hammer-Stein", an epic storyline in the Ro-Busters series. Both are long and rewarding stories about robots in human society that rival the best Science Fiction writing on the subject.

I'm getting all nostalgic thinking about these - I must try and find my Titan Books collections of them.
 
 
Miss K
08:16 / 12.03.07
(sorry mods, pressed submit by mistake before completing the above post. Please delete this one once you've approved the edit above)

Also worth chasing down are the first run of stories by Pat Mills featuring the ABC Warriors, and "The Rise and Fall of Ro-Jaws and Hammer-Stein", an epic storyline in the Ro-Busters series. Both are long and rewarding stories about robots in human society that rival the best Science Fiction writing on the subject.

I'm getting all nostalgic thinking about these - I must try and find my Titan Books collections of them.
 
 
ONLY NICE THINGS
08:53 / 12.03.07
The Dead, which was an extraordinary and hallucinatory story with wonderfully grotesque art by Belardinelli

You're in luck, Miss K (and Furioso) - The Dead is the current reprint in 2000AD Extreme. Available in newsagents now - which is more useful for MK than F, I realise, but one could sort something out with envelopes or similar. It is deeply weird stuff - it seems after the first episode basically to surrender the rhythm of comic narrative completely.
 
 
Janean Patience
10:41 / 12.03.07
is it true that Millar and Ennis wrote crappy Dredd tales in their 1990's runs?

I actually quite liked some of Ennis's run on Dredd: Death Aid, The Marshall, and the summary dispatch of Jonni Kiss. He suffered from the same problem everyone who's tried to write Dredd has, unable to resist the temptation to dig up and rework his favourite features of Mega-City life as revealed in previous progs, but it wasn't too awful. Okay, the Muzak Killer stories were awful.

Millar, on the other hand, wrote almost nothing good for 2000AD and wrote the worst Dredd story I've ever read. (He's being trained for some upcoming disaster and unknowingly massacres a load of minor perps. Which is, y'know, something Dredd being the embodiment of the law wouldn't be at all bothered about.) The lead-up story to his big epic with Morrison about riots on Titan was okay, with a brutality that befitted the subject, but the Morrison/Millar epic itself (what was it called?) sucked balls and their follow-up Crusade was another example of not knowing what to do with big brother's trainset except break it.
 
 
DavidXBrunt
09:33 / 13.03.07
Inferno. And yes, balls were sucked. Ennis at least liked the subject even though henever got beyond at best pastiching John Wagner.

As for 2k that's worth a look I can't recommend Leviathon highly enough. Self contained story in the lovey Eurpean Hardback format it's the story of a luxury liner lost in limbo for decades and the story of one mans investigation into why. Packed with the sort of imagination and style and pop culture referneces that you'd expect from Edginton and D'israeli and just blinding stuff.

Edgintons The Red Seas - Pirates verses Zombies, Harryhausen style mythic beasts, and (naturally) dinosaurs at the centre of the Earth) is more fun than you can shake a stick at. Edginton and Yeowell, this time.

I also rate The Adventures of Nikolai Dante very highly though it on;y really catches fire in book four and you need the first three books to appreciate why.
 
 
sn00p
11:13 / 13.03.07
lest us not forget zenith!
 
 
Janean Patience
11:48 / 13.03.07
Well, the problem with recommending Zenith is that it's unavailable unless you're willing to spend a lot of time and money tracking it down. Though it was one of 2000AD's best.

I was actually slightly disappointed with Leviathan when I read it last week. Beautiful art, really taking advantage of the grayscale, but little characterisation and a plot which rushed hastily to its conclusion. The extra shorts just made me wish the main story had taken time to explore the ship and its society before the big reveal.
 
 
MattShepherd: I WEDDED KALI!
11:57 / 13.03.07
Just curious -- why were these issues banned/not printed for fear of legal action? I thought satire was okay; I seem to remember Give Me Liberty going through several printings and a TPB collection despite some pretty pointed fast-food mascot satire.
 
 
Haus of Mystery
12:46 / 13.03.07
It was direct use of established Corporate trademarks. It wasnt 'thinly veiled' satire, it was blatant brand-bashing. Which when you consider the targets it's not really a surprise they took umbrage.
Sad though as it featured some of McMahon and Bolland's best early work.
 
 
sn00p
15:42 / 13.03.07
Woah, since when did Zenith become hard to get hold of?

my eyes have become dollar signs, by the way.
 
 
Haus of Mystery
18:27 / 13.03.07
Since the long out of print Titan collections have become hotter than the hottest cakes.
Thanks a fucking bunch by the way, e-bay.
 
  
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