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Skinning of cat divides art community

 
 
Ellis
19:50 / 19.07.01
From National Post Online

quote: TORONTO - The directors of an avant-garde gallery in Toronto have come under fire for their refusal to denounce two artists accused of the torture killing of a cat.

Jesse Power, a 21-year-old Ontario College of Art & Design student, and Anthony Ryan Wennekers, 24, were charged on May 30 with cruelty to animals and mischief. A third man remains at large.

The men allegedly videotaped the black, white and grey cat's ordeal. The case is before the courts.

The gallery, Art System, which is funded by the art college's student union, became embroiled in the debate when co-directors Jubal Brown and Daniel Borins appeared at Mr. Power's bail hearing to support the artist, who has exhibited previous work at the gallery and whom they consider a friend.

Mr. Power is also scheduled to exhibit some of his work at the gallery in August, but it's not clear whether that will go ahead.

Mr. Power has gone on record in a local newspaper defending the video as a work of art -- a comment on the death and suffering of animals used for meat.

Toronto Police Detective Gordon Scott said the 17-minute videotape is the most difficult thing he has ever watched.

"After a couple of minutes, I was actually rooting for the cat to die to avoid the cruelties being inflicted upon it," he said.

Mr. Brown and Mr. Borins have made it clear they do not condone acts of cruelty to animals. Mr. Brown, a vegetarian who owns two cats, said he finds the idea of killing cats "simply horrible."

"I don't support the killing of animals for food or art," he said.

"But whether it is art is not for us to answer."

Mr. Brown is no stranger to controversy. In 1996, he gained infamy by ingesting primary-coloured foods and vomiting on two paintings he considered "banal" -- a seascape by Raoul Dufy at the Art Gallery of Ontario and a Mondrian at the Metropolitan Museum of Art in New York City.

Neither painting was damaged and no charges were laid. Mr. Brown said at the time his protest was meant "to destroy art, to liberate individuals and living creatures from its banal, oppressive representation."

Art System's position has since been reinforced by an official statement from Bill Pusztai, chairman of the student union at the Ontario College of Art and Design.

"The actions on the videotapes are abhorrent, immoral and illegal," Mr. Pusztai said. "But it is not our role to be arbiters of what is and what isn't art."

Cathy GordonMarsh, a local artist who has mounted the boycott, says taking a stand on the artistic merit of such acts is essential.

"It reflects on us as an arts community," she said. "I am very willing to say it is not art for the reason that it includes an unwilling partner. It is the difference between art and snuff."

Mr. Borins said the fate of Mr. Power's scheduled show at Art System is now in doubt. Police have seized all of his video work for review and the gallery is looking into whether it can show any of his work without fear of facing charges itself.

Mr. Borins also made it clear Art System has no desire to show the tape of the cat's skinning and death.

"We're not idiot provocateurs," he said. "It's like showing a snuff movie -- it's illegal."

Both Mr. Brown and Mr. Borins have defended their decision to attend Mr. Power's bail hearing, saying they were only there to support a friend.

"We were concerned that Jessie is messed up and in serious trouble," Mr. Borins said. "We're also concerned that police confiscated all his previous artwork and might try to use it against him as character evidence."

Since current laws relating to cruelty to animals carry only a maximum six-month sentence, Det. Scott said police are trying to locate the cat's owner in an effort to prove the animal was someone's property and thereby solidify their case for a possible conviction on indictable mischief, which carries a maximum sentence of two years.

Mr. Power has been released on bail but Mr. Wennekers remains in custody. ZoÎ Stonyk, a volunteer at Art System who shared a number of classes with Mr. Power, said his previous video work has often examined controversial subjects.

She said one project, filmed while Mr. Power was employed at a poultry processing plant, detailed chickens being slaughtered in an effort to examine the reality of meat production.

Johanna Householder taught Mr. Power as an instructor in performance art and contemporary issues at the art college. She described him as a student "who looks deeply into very difficult questions."

She also attended his bail hearing, out of concern for what she said was the "inflammatory" nature of e-mails sent out by Ms. GordonMarsh calling for the Art System boycott.

"It felt like a bit of witch hunt," Ms. Householder said.

"Art System has done a good job of establishing itself as a venue appealing to a new, less mainstream generation of artists and I'm concerned about the cloud that is now hanging over it."

Art System opened early last year. Its mandate is to maintain a lively exhibit space "on the edge that fosters young ideas," according to Ms. Stonyk.

Mr. Brown, who is renowned for what Ms. Stonyk described as his "punk rock" attitude toward art, was a natural choice to become director.

Ms. GordonMarsh's boycott has so far convinced organizers of one fundraiser scheduled for Art System to cancel. She said she plans to continue the boycott until Mr. Brown steps down as director.

Mr. Borins, however, condemned what he said is the "lynch mob mentality" behind the Art System boycott.

"There's nothing wrong with attending the bail hearing of friend," he said.

"They say we're guilty by association and that shows an astonishing level of ignorance.

"We're against cruelty to animals, but these people want us to issue a statement that would define the limits of artistic freedom," he added. "It's extortion."




Nasty boys.
 
 
Ria
20:04 / 19.07.01
this pisses me off. I didn't like Joe Coleman's killing of mice either. and no I don't eat meat. and yes I do wear leather (if I can't find an affordable substitute).
 
 
Ganesh
20:14 / 19.07.01
I'd agree, but then even Damien Hirst's butterflies trapped in paint made me slightly queasy. I know it's an ethically hypocritical position to take (and quite possibly an impossible one to defend), but there's something about the killing of animals for pleasure which seems particularly wrong.
 
 
Ria
20:38 / 19.07.01
killing butterflies under any circumstances bothers me as well.
 
 
Dee Vapr
00:32 / 20.07.01
You probably won't want to see this then
 
 
synaesthesia
01:11 / 20.07.01
I don't suppose they will wan to see this either
 
 
Dee Vapr
01:16 / 20.07.01
quote: Charlton Heston prophesied in 1973 that "Soilent Green" is people. But so is vegimite.

?????????????
 
 
Molly Shortcake
03:26 / 20.07.01
"Every living thing must be regarded as meat"

All life is essentially the same and there's absolutely NOTHING innocent about eating.
 
 
The Return Of Rothkoid
03:26 / 20.07.01
The cat issue aside - which I think is adolescent pet-torture crossed with a particularly desperate streak of self-promotion - the guy sounds like a bit of a deadshit. I find it interesting that he wants to suggest that it's not for him to decide whether the videotape is art or not - and yet he seemed perfectly happy to make this sort of value-judgement by barfing on a Mondrian. Come on, son, surely you can't have it both ways?

And if any spread is people, it's Marmite. That shit is evil.
 
 
priya narma
11:43 / 20.07.01
quote:I find it interesting that he wants to suggest that it's not for him to decide whether the videotape is art or not - and yet he seemed perfectly happy to make this sort of value-judgement by barfing on a Mondrian.

way to go, Rothkoid! you beat me too it. this tiny bit o'hypocrisy definitely deserves to be pointed out.
i would guess that this was all a sicko publicity stunt. i personally feel ill at the very thought of this video being touted as:
quote:a comment on the death and suffering of animals used for meat.
especially concidering that cat is not a commodity that is usually found at the butcher shop or in the fridge. you don't often hear, "honey, the smiths are coming over for dinner, you better toss another cat on the grill". perhaps if Power had been in china this bit of trash might mean something but since he's not all it means is that he's a cruel, twisted bastard that thinks his artworld peers are gullible enough to believe his work has a higher meaning.
 
 
grant
12:28 / 20.07.01
So would it be OK if he'd killed a cow and videotaped it?

Or displayed a video he'd surreptitiously taken at a slaughterhouse?
 
 
priya narma
13:29 / 20.07.01
quote:So would it be OK if he'd killed a cow and videotaped it? Or displayed a video he'd surreptitiously taken at a slaughterhouse?

the use of animal torture and slaughter an/or its imagery has been accepted in the past depending on the situation. Some examples:
-coppola really had that water buffalo/steer/cow (whatever it was) killed at the end of 'apocalypse now'. i seem to remember a pretty big uproar about that scene...but the film is still held in high artistic regard (by some).
-PETA has some graphic slaughterhouse footage available. i particularly recall features on pigs and chickens.
-skinny puppy used animal carcasses in their shows.
 
 
Ethan Hawke
13:39 / 20.07.01
...and there is this:

berlin teen fails to stop flying cow spectacle

An Austrian artist dropped a dead cow stuffed with fireworks from a helicopter
in Berlin on Thursday in a controversial performance that an animal-loving teenager had failed to stop in
a last-ditch legal bid.

Flatz[the artist] has previously made himself a human doormat in front of a Munich art school and had darts
thrown at his naked body. He spent New Year's Eve 1990 as a human bell, suspended head
downwards bashing against steel sheets until he lost consciousness.
 
 
Ellis
14:05 / 20.07.01
Whether it is art or not doesn't really matter to me.

What matters is that they tortured an animal to death.

Sick fucks.
 
 
Jack Fear
14:16 / 20.07.01
There's more than one way to do it, or so I'm told.
 
 
Ria
16:24 / 20.07.01
quote:Originally posted by grant:
So would it be OK if he'd killed a cow and videotaped it?


more okay than killing a cat by torture.

quote:[QN]
Or displayed a video he'd surreptitiously taken at a slaughterhouse?[/QB]


that wouldn't bother me at all. oh course that also means that it would bother most people who eat meat even less.
 
 
The Return Of Rothkoid
17:53 / 20.07.01
quote:Originally posted by grant:
So would it be OK if he'd killed a cow and videotaped it?

Or displayed a video he'd surreptitiously taken at a slaughterhouse?
I think, the fact that it's a cute widdle kitty aside - which, let's face it, is polarising the debate - it's the fact that there was torture involved. At least seventeen minutes of it. I think that if he tortured ANY animal for that length of time - hell, at all - it'd jar. Is this right? At least for me, it's the maliciousness of the act.

And as regards the slaughterhouse vid: wouldn't that just make it a documentary? I mean, it's not like he'd be orchestrating the action inside the place - if anything, hasn't PETA been there, done that? I seem to recall last year that a farmer was convicted of cruelty to animals thanks to PETA film footage of him kicking animals to death and hitting them with spanners, that kind of thing. I think it's the fact that the "artist" has some input on what was going on that makes this video different.
 
 
Polly Trotsky
00:56 / 21.07.01
quote:The directors of an avant-garde gallery in Toronto have come under fire for their refusal to denounce two artists accused of the torture killing of a cat.

If you will not stone the witches, you must be witches as well.
 
 
bunnydreams
01:30 / 21.07.01
how's this for an art project?
(feel free to steal it):

kidnap Mr. Brown and skin him alive whilst his wondrous cat-skinning video plays in the background...for added dramatic tension and artistic impact, tell him if he meows 200 times you'll stop skinning him....if you can keep count, of course.

now i ask you...would it be snuff or art?
 
 
Molly Shortcake
02:24 / 21.07.01
Is anyone familiar withCathern Chalmers?

Art = not snuff?
 
 
Spatula Clarke
19:43 / 21.07.01
I like it, bunnydreams. It has a strange 'art-imitating-life-imitating-art-imitating-life-imitating-art-imitating-life', moebius strip thing going on.
 
 
Ria
20:39 / 22.07.01
don't forget that three rather than one people participated, as hard as I find that to believe.
 
 
grant
16:57 / 23.07.01
quote:Originally posted by Rothkoid:
it's the fact that there was torture involved. At least seventeen minutes of it. I think that if he tortured ANY animal for that length of time - hell, at all - it'd jar. Is this right? At least for me, it's the maliciousness of the act.

And as regards the slaughterhouse vid: wouldn't that just make it a documentary?


I think the maliciousness is the point of the spectacle, yeah.
I'm just wondering if a cow going through a contemporary slaughterhouse is granted any special "non-malicious" status.
I know that a factory abbatoir works so fast, muscles are still twitching on the side of beef as it comes out the other end of the assembly line. That's my factoid.
From that I can deduce: the cows go through fast, yeah, but they're also not dead when the knife gets 'em.
Whether or not the "hammer" (or piston or whatever they use) knocks 'em out or kills em or just stuns 'em for a second or two before they hit the skinning machines, I think is up to the vagaries of the machine.

So, that's not really malicious, but it's also sort of ignored & marginalized. Subliminal, even. Invisible.
And it seems like a comparable level of pain. Only on a huge scale, not one-on-one. And certainly not on videotape.
 
 
z3r0
17:22 / 23.07.01
Sick fucks. Sick STUPID fucks, who think that of all means available, torturing a animal to death is the most appropriate to discuss the "cruelty to cows" or whatever is their "agenda-du-jour". Man, we are doomed. We are so doomed.
 
 
Nailati
09:04 / 24.07.01
The irony of this "protest" calls to mind pro-lifers who kill to make their point...
 
 
grant
11:49 / 24.07.01
I didn't say it was a protest; I just said it seems ethically equivalent.
 
 
01
22:56 / 24.07.01
Every one should beat the shit out of these idiots, video tape it, and call it art.
 
 
Polly Trotsky
02:38 / 25.07.01
What an excellent idea. Finally, after these many long years, we may dispense with the notion that art ought to challenge both individual viewers and social norms. Yes, let us throw stones, for we are without sin; or at least make sure our neighbors are looking away, preferably at witches, while we sin. Yeah though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I will torture and murder the heretic for an insurmountable chasm extends betwixt our understanding. Hallelujah!
 
 
z3r0
10:48 / 25.07.01
1 - they're what, 21 and 24 years old? Wasn't Mozart 12 or something when he started composing?

Why we should accept these kids imposture as art, when it's only a commentary? Mozart was creating something, and they're not creating, they're using a media just to "make a commentary" or to "criticize" whatever characteristics of our society they think to be wrong.

Because, of course, CREATION is difficult. But any idiot can comment. And any idiot can skin and torture a cat to death.

2 - Has post-modernism numbed our perceptions so much that we can't tell the difference between some retarded's prank and art?

3 - Theoretically, there is no limit. They CAN kidnap a beggar from the streets, videotape him being castrated and burned to ashes, and release the tape saying that "is a comment on how our society has banned and neutered the poor etc etc"

4 - Just because it's art (and it is not), would it be automatically immune to any critics coming out of pure old-fashioned kitsch feelings like mercy towards a living, suffering creature? What weighs more here, "coolness" or humanity?
 
 
Polly Trotsky
19:33 / 25.07.01
Such a chasm is broad and frightening. Surely thouse we can barely see across it are alien and pestilent. Is it even a commentary? Did they issue a message? Or is it engaging people who only hear about it in a dialogue about the nature of art and what is right and wrong? Surely if these individuals are retarded they will be treated leniently by the authorities. And did we miss the connection between the torture of one animal and another? Are not swine more genetically similar to humanity that cats? Do not many religions forbid the consumption of swine?

What's more important here: maintaining our hipocrisy by "beat[ing] the shit out of these idiots" or looking up from our navels?
 
  
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