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Andy Warhol

 
 
Cowboy Scientist
00:00 / 23.02.07
Taking advantage of the 20th anniversary of Andy Warhol's death, I'm making a thread about the guy (strangely, there isn't one already -well, there is one in the Books, Criticism & Writing category, but that isn't here nor there-, at least according to the search bar).

So, what are your thoughts about him?
I always had his art in the periphery of my mind, it wasn't until about three years ago that I really got to read and see a bunch of stuff by and about him; it blew my mind, so I became a bit obsessed*, if not by him, at least by the myth of him; and his ideas about the image, the myths and his almost spiritual shallowness, if there's such a thing.

So? What is your experience with Andy Warhol and his work?


*I mean, I dressed as AW in a couple of Halloween parties; which isn't that worrisome, but then I started to dress -and act- like him in everyday life...
 
 
Make me Uncomfortable
01:14 / 23.02.07
I go to Carnegie Mellon, the art school he attended. The Warhol Museum is just on the other side of town.

I like him a lot as a sort of catalyst/face for post-modern, post-everything art. I think that although he was the end of a long wave of change in the art world, he is important as the public face of "everything is art now- soup cans, multiples the artist doesn't even print himself, everything is fair game." I mean, he didn't start those ideas, he just brought them into the public eye much more so than previous people (except maybe DuChamp and the Readymade, but... thats different, kinda.

I think that a lot of people forget the depth and breadth of his work- he made tons of movies, and did all kinds of stuff that wasn't screen-prints of pop culture icons and soup. His studio "factory" was a bit of a who's who kind of joint- he met and influenced all kinds of people.

I think people also forget his background- he was a poor kid in an extremely industrial city. The school he attended was founded by two of the biggest capitalists this country has ever known. Also, the general public forgets that he was totally pansexual. He collected gay pornography his whole life, from illegal paperbacks in the 60s to seriously risque shit later on. He was obsessed with women's shoes.

He also experimented with materials a whole lot- the Silver Clouds come to mind.

Just some thoughts.

(full disclosure- I'm an art student.)
 
 
whistler
18:14 / 26.02.07
Things I really enjoyed about the Warhol pieces in Tate Modern :

The silkscreen Marilyn and Elvis:
I expected these to be totally smooth in a mass-reproduced, shiny and thoroughly po-mo kind of a way, but actually there's a lot of texture, for example, as the ink wears out Marilyn gets fainter and fainter. The vibrant pink/yellow/green on the 'colour' version I saw had been added by hand. Some Marilyns had skillfully applied eyeshadow and lipstick but others were coming apart a little. I got fascinated by the differences in the way I 'read' the slapdash or pristine Marilyn.

The 'box' pieces remind me how much pleasure I used to get from commercial designs when I was about four. The printed tissue paper from around tangerines springs to mind. It sort of makes me long for a mythical, benevolent and innocent world in which I am surrounded by bold patterns and shapes that mean simply 'pineapple' and 'soup'. (Now I think 'air-miles' and 'additives'.)
 
 
Lysander Stark
14:06 / 27.02.07
I love Warhol, not least because I often find him infuriating. Working in the art world as a researcher, I often find myself writing extensively on his works. This is often, at first, a depressing prospect-- another 400 words about ANOTHER bluddy late Warhol. But then I start to write, and the fascinating layers of paradox exert their enchantment. He is like a dumb (but not in the sense of stoopid) mirror, in a sense, held up to the viewer, to capitalism, to artists, to everyone. And we all see both what he wants and what we want. And then we look further... And we see death and subversion, and then an honest love of celebrity, and then a rebellion against its fickleness and fatuousness, and then a raucous adoration of those same qualities...

Part of the brilliance of his work is that the meanings shift the more you hold them up to scrutiny. They do not shift in a withering-under-scrutiny sense, but instead open up, introducing an infinite complexity that leaves one able (as I am proving here...) to write or talk or think about him almost without end. Warhol's work, in short, is as deep as a piece of string is long. And yet... it is all about the surface.

I highly recommend his book, From A to B and back again, even just to dip into. It is his collected philosophical musings, and includes such gems as:

`American money is very well-designed, really. I like it better than any other kind of money. I’ve thrown it in the East River just by the Staten Island Ferry just to see it float.'

He really is endless fun! And a prophet who saw the writing on the wall-- then, perceiving the irony of such an act, framed it and sold it.
 
 
This Sunday
05:34 / 01.04.07
What I love most about Warhol is his general sort of "I love it' about everything and everybody else's stuff. He was very rarely truly harsh, and that's kinda cool, mostly because it seems legit, but even if not, it's terribly polite, civil, and decent.

This may have something to do with his own esteem, and the whole thing with Truman Capote, back in the day. Maybe not.

Added to his willingness to put his name or use his name towards virtually anything someone else was willing to produce/promote, he's just like this artistic goodwill floating about excuding make-up and interesting collusions all over the place.

And appropriately enough, death hasn't seemed to put too much a kink on that.
 
  
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